Jay-Z - Jockin' Jay-Z (CDQ)

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:02 pm

http://sharebee.com/223f41a0

Also called "Dope Boy Fresh" apparently...

I think this is a clean version, but the quality is on point.

the dead poet · Post by **the dead poet** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:09 pm

thanks

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:11 pm

I actually think he performed it a little better live. Beat's still dope, but the verses are kind of

the dead poet · Post by **the dead poet** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:12 pm

you know i dont really like his flow/voice on this.

Liger Woods · Post by **Liger Woods** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:13 pm

the delivery and performance and lyrics is dope.

beat is good. not

still better than most shit on kingdom come.

bigzizzo#1 · Post by **bigzizzo#1** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:16 pm

props that shit is fresh

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:19 pm

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Solo45 · Post by **Solo45** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:19 pm

this shits weak.
should be a mixtape drop at the most.

Quotashun · Post by **Quotashun** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:29 pm

It's okay I guess. Just reminds me how much better off he'd be with an album of Rick Rubin beats though.

blastmaster · Post by **blastmaster** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:44 pm

I really like the beat. Jay-Z is simply irrelevant at this point. So fucking tired. Just stop. Two guest verses a year. Please.

ANU · Post by **ANU** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:49 pm

blastmaster wrote:I really like the beat. Jay-Z is simply irrelevant at this point. So fucking tired. Just stop. Two guest verses a year. Please.

I was goin to say exactly the same...

Beat is great, but I'd prefer to hear turf talk on it

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:50 pm

blastmaster wrote:I really like the beat. Jay-Z is simply irrelevant at this point. So fucking tired. Just stop. Two guest verses a year. Please.

It's amazing really. Even if you just go back to The Black Album, which I'm not as high on as a lot of people on this site, the density of his verses was exponentially higher. Comparing his first three albums and to his verses on Kingdome Come, AG and subsequent material is like comparing Rakim to Bow Wow.

blastmaster · Post by **blastmaster** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:53 pm

He is way too comfortable. Nothing to say. You know white people now, we get it, faggot.

I cant wait for Peedi to wreck shop on this shit.

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:53 pm

it's aiight, but it's not ILLLLL :jayz:

lyrics are good until he gets lazy, which is for at least a third of the song.

"it's too easy/ I got ladies on shoulders showing me they chi-chi's"

i ain't jockin Jay off dumb raps like that. :omggay:

that third verse is MEHHHH. if this guy wasn't so rich, even more of his raps wouldn't impress.

Lil Wayne is doing more creative rapping than Jiggamayne at the moment.

iCONtheMicKing · Post by **iCONtheMicKing** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:55 pm

more of the a milli trend at work.

this beat is bunk.

jay z turned in regular jay z fodder nothing to hate or love too much rap wise.

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:56 pm

I ain't a Blood but I'm at war with the boys in blue

Hov!

Mindbender Futurama · Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:00 pm

Magneto wrote:I ain't a Blood but I'm at war with the boys in blue

Hov!

yeah we know you can't publicly criticize the Gawd

but even you know this isn't

compared to his best.

it's better than... some stuff. but it's also NOT better than some MCs lesser than Jigga

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:10 pm

iCONtheMicKing wrote:more of the a milli trend at work.

what does this beat have in common with A Milli?

You're the second person to mention this, but I don't see any comparison.

No repeated screwed up phrase, the repeated phrase is only on the hook... What is the basis for this comparison?

It's a Run DMC sample, with a guitar sample, and some Rick Rubin era drum machine snares.

The Cool Kids jack thing I get, but I don't see how this is anything like "A Milli"

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:14 pm

http://sharebee.com/ec841374 - Dirty version.

Balzac · Post by **Balzac** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:15 pm

this is great

no more whisper flow

no gay ass soul samples

i'm feeling it.

will sound better uncensored i'm sure. gets disjointed with the blank outs.

bass does bite milli pretty hard.

love the run hook tho, wouldn't be the same without it.

*edit*. props for the dirty version!!!

iCONtheMicKing · Post by **iCONtheMicKing** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:16 pm

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
iCONtheMicKing wrote:more of the a milli trend at work.
what does this beat have in common with A Milli?

You're the second person to mention this, but I don't see any comparison.

No repeated screwed up phrase, no heavy as shit 808 poundin', etc... What is the basis for this comparison?

It's a Run DMC sample, with a guitar sample, and some Rick Rubin era drum machine snares.

The Cool Kids jack thing I get, but I don't see how this is anything like "A Milli"

repetition of a vocal sample with a terrible chopping of a shitty sample and very repetitive drums to give the illusion something cool is going on when really what you are hearing is just a verrrrry bad beat.

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:17 pm

iCONtheMicKing wrote:
B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
iCONtheMicKing wrote:more of the a milli trend at work.
what does this beat have in common with A Milli?

You're the second person to mention this, but I don't see any comparison.

No repeated screwed up phrase, no heavy as shit 808 poundin', etc... What is the basis for this comparison?

It's a Run DMC sample, with a guitar sample, and some Rick Rubin era drum machine snares.

The Cool Kids jack thing I get, but I don't see how this is anything like "A Milli"
repetition of a vocal sample with a terrible chopping of a shitty sample and very repetitive drums to give the illusion something cool is going on when really what you are hearing is just a verrrrry bad beat.

beat is dope. But the vocal sample is just on the hook man. It's not throughout the whole song like A Milli

Balzac · Post by **Balzac** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:20 pm

^^^^
u gotta admit its similar to milli. bassline and chopping of the hook. not that thats a bad thing, but its quite evident.

iCONtheMicKing · Post by **iCONtheMicKing** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:25 pm

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote: beat is dope. But the vocal sample is just on the hook man. It's not throughout the whole song like A Milli

i really don't understand how either this or a milli can be perceived as a good beat. gimme some looped up soul shit all day any day over this. early

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:27 pm

Balzac wrote:^^^^
u gotta admit its similar to milli. bassline and chopping of the hook. not that thats a bad thing, but its quite evident.

I don't think they're anything a like. At all. This sounds more like "I'm Mikey (I Rock)" than it does like "A Milli"... sorry.

1) A Milli doesn't have a hook. Same loop throughout

2) A Milli has a screwed Phife vocal sample, this has a regular speed Run-DMC sample

3) The vocal sample drops and the beat changes up for the verses

etc, etc.

The only real similarity is that they both sample a rapper. Wow, what a trend. And I'm not defending cuz I like the song, the verses are weak, I just don't see the comparison. And I think "A Milli" and this are both great beats.

Lid · Post by **Lid** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:32 pm

Balzac · Post by **Balzac** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:40 pm

yeah its not EXACTLY like a milli.

there are only 4 musical elements to this song.
1. the run chopped up sample (similar to the phife chopped up sample. granted it doesn't go the whole song)
2, the drums (not 808, so theres one difference)
3. bassline (exactly like a milli. pretty sure thats an 808 bass kick)
4. guitars (theres another difference)

50% is enough to call them SIMILAR.

Can-U · Post by **Can-U** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:43 pm

i dont understand how jay has fallen off in any way. american gangster was the truth.

this songs ill too. it aint my favorite to listen to in front of a computer but in the right setting it'd be nice.

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:43 pm

Balzac wrote:yeah its not EXACTLY like a milli.

there are only 4 musical elements to this song.
1. the run chopped up sample (similar to the phife chopped up sample. granted it doesn't go the whole song)
2, the drums (not 808, so theres one difference)
3. bassline (exactly like a milli. pretty sure thats an 808 bass kick)
4. guitars (theres another difference)

50% is enough to call them SIMILAR.

OMG TEHY HAS 808 KICK DRUMZ AND A RAPH SAMPLE, ITZ DE SAME BEATERZ

Balzac · Post by **Balzac** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:48 pm

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
Balzac wrote:yeah its not EXACTLY like a milli.

there are only 4 musical elements to this song.
1. the run chopped up sample (similar to the phife chopped up sample. granted it doesn't go the whole song)
2, the drums (not 808, so theres one difference)
3. bassline (exactly like a milli. pretty sure thats an 808 bass kick)
4. guitars (theres another difference)

50% is enough to call them SIMILAR.
OMG TEHY HAS 808 KICK DRUMZ AND A RAPH SAMPLE, ITZ DE SAME BEATERZ

alright, they are nothing alike.