Jay-Z - Jockin' Jay-Z (CDQ)

The Iron Sheik · Post by **The Iron Sheik** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:54 pm

i think the song is fine, nothing too crazy, but the beat is pretty hype

i'd say he's ripping southern rap trends in general, not merely 'a milli'. minimalism and chopped vocal sample hooks = southern shit for years now

it will sound really great in a club

i'd rank it similarly to "blue magic", probably one of about five songs i've really enjoyed by jay-z in the past few years

Lyrical Gymnastics · Post by **Lyrical Gymnastics** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:13 pm

beat is horrible..

Kalel · Post by **Kalel** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:32 pm

The Iron Sheik wrote:it will sound really great in a club

Yeeeeeah buddy. I really hope it blows up because these shook-ass sucka DJs won't play it if doesn't get any spins in NY.

I really like this.

vinylpops · Post by **vinylpops** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:47 pm

It's just a cool track to bump. Nothing more, nothing less.

Thanks for the dirty.

stems · Post by **stems** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:49 pm

I'd like to see Noel Gallagher answer that!

ackbar · Post by **ackbar** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:33 am

good song. the beat is dope
kind of agree with blastmaster about the raps

Monotonous · Post by **Monotonous** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:56 am

i wish he could be more like Big Daddy Kane

just sit back...chill...let people call you the greatest...and drop just a handful of SPECTACULAR verses a year

Liger Woods · Post by **Liger Woods** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:35 am

Monotonous wrote:i wish he could be more like Big Daddy Kane

i gurantee kane wishes he was jay.

peanut butter · Post by **peanut butter** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:08 am

I would rather hear State Prop on this beat instead. And Sean really should quit rapping (yes :sluggo:

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PEACE

barknee · Post by **barknee** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:47 am

that oasis shit is really really cringeworthy

like the song tho

drug · Post by **drug** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:58 am

HomeSkillet · Post by **HomeSkillet** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:17 am

vinylpops wrote:It's just a cool track to bump. Nothing more, nothing less.

Thanks for the dirty.

Yohan · Post by **Yohan** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:38 am

This will really bump hard in the club, much like A Millie. Also B.Ware, you gotta admit, the bassline is a blatant rip of A Millie's. Maybe not EXACTLY the same, but the overall sound is. The fact the majority acknowledges this also says something. You're right to compare it to Cool Kids, cause it's similar s well.

Overall, I like this. It's unconventional Jay-Z, but good nontheless.

Comedy Quaddafi · Post by **Comedy Quaddafi** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:54 am

You can't really claim a screwed hook and 808s is ripping someone off.

That's half the singles coming out these days.

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:24 am

I agree Icon and balzac, it does have a similiarity to A Milli. Don't see how thats not recognized. Not bad but I've heard better from Jay-Z of course.

Balzac · Post by **Balzac** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:50 am

got this in my inbox this morning:

Billboard.com

Although it's unclear if they will produce the entire album, Kanye West and Dion "No I.D." Wilson are hard at work making tracks for Jay-Z's "Blueprint 3," according to West's management.

West and Jay-Z debuted one of their collaborations, "Jockin' Jay-Z," last week during West's Glow in the Dark tour stop at New York's Madison Square Garden.

No I.D., who, like West, is a Chicago producer, started his career in the early 1990s and is best known for his work with Common. He also works closely with Jermaine Dupri's label, So So Def, as a co-producer.

Def Jam has not yet announced a release date for "Blueprint 3," Jay-Z's last studio album for the company before he begins recording for Live Nation.

ANU · Post by **ANU** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:05 am

beat has nothing to do with "a milli" sorry guys you need a

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:09 am

The comparison still makes absolutely no sense to me. I can grant that the use of the 808 thump is vaguely reminiscent. There's nothing else about the beat that's similar. By that standard you could claim that every beat from the south is biting another beat from the south, etc. Very loose basis for comparison.

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:44 am

American Gangster was/is ill and this is continuing the trend. Some haters in this thread.

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:48 am

Trademark wrote:American Gangster was/is ill and this is continuing the trend. Some haters in this thread.

It's a cool album, this is a good song. People can still talk about how Jay has fallen off lyrically/delivery-wise. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Production has carried his recent work. But if you're referring to people that are outright hating this shit then yeah.

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:09 am

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
Trademark wrote:American Gangster was/is ill and this is continuing the trend. Some haters in this thread.
It's a cool album, this is a good song. People can still talk about how Jay has fallen off lyrically/delivery-wise. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Production has carried his recent work. But if you're referring to people that are outright hating this shit then yeah.

agree....

step one · Post by **step one** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:22 am

prediction: Jay will drop at least 2 more albums before Detox or OB4CL 2 get a release date.

a six-run ninth · Post by **a six-run ninth** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:25 am

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
Balzac wrote:yeah its not EXACTLY like a milli.

there are only 4 musical elements to this song.
1. the run chopped up sample (similar to the phife chopped up sample. granted it doesn't go the whole song)
2, the drums (not 808, so theres one difference)
3. bassline (exactly like a milli. pretty sure thats an 808 bass kick)
4. guitars (theres another difference)

50% is enough to call them SIMILAR.
OMG TEHY HAS 808 KICK DRUMZ AND A RAPH SAMPLE, ITZ DE SAME BEATERZ

this is alright. not as great the live version.

Career Over Like Mike(NJJ) · Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:42 am

LOL Wayne @ the stupid A Milli comparison.

If you wanna compare this to any Wayne songs then it has far more in common with Money On My Mind or Ova Here Hustlin'.

Actually, Tell Me When To Go by E40 & Keak would be the best comparison here since it's a fairly minimal old school sounding 808 beat with a Run Dmc sample during the hook.

Mo Cheeks · Post by **Mo Cheeks** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:18 pm

just retire already

djjeffresh · Post by **djjeffresh** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:25 pm

like the song.

nothing like a milli.

Karisma · Post by **Karisma** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:15 pm

Balzac wrote:
B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
Balzac wrote:yeah its not EXACTLY like a milli.

there are only 4 musical elements to this song.
1. the run chopped up sample (similar to the phife chopped up sample. granted it doesn't go the whole song)
2, the drums (not 808, so theres one difference)
3. bassline (exactly like a milli. pretty sure thats an 808 bass kick)
4. guitars (theres another difference)

50% is enough to call them SIMILAR.
OMG TEHY HAS 808 KICK DRUMZ AND A RAPH SAMPLE, ITZ DE SAME BEATERZ

alright, they are nothing alike.

Ice cream and sour cream are similar cuz they both cream based, are dairy products and mostly sissies like you eat them both consistantly
BEN AND JERRY'NEM BE BITIN MAD HARD N SUCH!!!!!11111

I see your point

Balzac · Post by **Balzac** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:28 pm

Karisma wrote:
Balzac wrote:
B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
Balzac wrote:yeah its not EXACTLY like a milli.

there are only 4 musical elements to this song.
1. the run chopped up sample (similar to the phife chopped up sample. granted it doesn't go the whole song)
2, the drums (not 808, so theres one difference)
3. bassline (exactly like a milli. pretty sure thats an 808 bass kick)
4. guitars (theres another difference)

50% is enough to call them SIMILAR.
OMG TEHY HAS 808 KICK DRUMZ AND A RAPH SAMPLE, ITZ DE SAME BEATERZ

alright, they are nothing alike.
Ice cream and sour cream are similar cuz they both cream based, are dairy products and mostly sissies like you eat them both consistantly
BEN AND JERRY'NEM BE BITIN MAD HARD N SUCH!!!!!11111

I see your point

i'm not the only one saying it there dingleberry (even elsewhere online).

obviously it sounds similar to some people.

relax.

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:47 pm

Balzac wrote:
Karisma wrote:
Balzac wrote:
B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
Balzac wrote:yeah its not EXACTLY like a milli.

there are only 4 musical elements to this song.
1. the run chopped up sample (similar to the phife chopped up sample. granted it doesn't go the whole song)
2, the drums (not 808, so theres one difference)
3. bassline (exactly like a milli. pretty sure thats an 808 bass kick)
4. guitars (theres another difference)

50% is enough to call them SIMILAR.
OMG TEHY HAS 808 KICK DRUMZ AND A RAPH SAMPLE, ITZ DE SAME BEATERZ

alright, they are nothing alike.
Ice cream and sour cream are similar cuz they both cream based, are dairy products and mostly sissies like you eat them both consistantly
BEN AND JERRY'NEM BE BITIN MAD HARD N SUCH!!!!!11111

I see your point
i'm not the only one saying it there dingleberry (even elsewhere online).

obviously it sounds similar to some people.

relax.

More than one person can be wrong about something.

Like I bet more than one person on here thinks the capital of Australia is Sydney.

It's Canberra bitches.

Balzac · Post by **Balzac** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:21 pm

being wrong about a fact is one thing.

no one can be wrong about a musical opinion.

thats why music arguments never go anywhere.

like this one.

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