Unpopular Rap Opinions

indianaJ0nes · Post by **indianaJ0nes** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:02 pm

also, lil wayne is the most overrated mc to ever grace the face of the earth and i don't believe anyone will ever come close to touching his status as such

dude is a gimmick with circa witty punch-lines and a few dope beats yet is somehow a 2008/9/10 rap god

Dids · Post by **Dids** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:02 pm

B'Tol wrote:Here we go again.

Popcorn at the ready.

Guru is the most boring rapper I have ever heard.

You're wrong, but that's only because Evidence exists.

Combo7 · Post by **Combo7** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:12 pm

admiral wrote:I don't really see the uncontrolled, incoherent yelling thing, but I guess we'll just disagree on it.

I've never known anyone else to feel the same way and I'd never argue it with someone. I'm actually kind of ashamed, having grown up so close to East Orange and all.

MC Homeless · Post by **MC Homeless** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:18 pm

Combo7 wrote:Nine's voice is terrible

Murda Muzik > Hell On Earth

The "Physical Stamina" beat is dope

Agreed and I will take it one step further. Murda Muzik > The Infamous

Dragondude R · Post by **Dragondude R** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:20 pm

Murda Muzik used to be my favorite MD album, but Hell on Earth trumped it in the long run.

mud · Post by **mud** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:41 pm

MC Homeless wrote:
Combo7 wrote: Murda Muzik > Hell On Earth

Agreed and I will take it one step further. Murda Muzik > The Infamous

All 3 are greatness though.

naturalborn103 · Post by **naturalborn103** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:08 pm

mud wrote:
cenzi wrote: - I think everyone knows that I do not rank Rakim in my top 5.

- Ghostface is just not that good. Method is the best in Wu.

- I have never been able to sit through a whole Nas or Jay Z album without saying "who the fuck actually thinks either of them GOAT statuts?"

- but then again, I consider Lynch Hung and Spice 1 two MC's that should be on that to 20 GOAT list

- Mobb Deep are the #1 overrated MC's to ever touch the mic.
I feel sorry for you're ears.

Big Lurk · Post by **Big Lurk** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:18 pm

Dr. Dre nowadays is a terrible producer.

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:28 pm

yes, Dr. Dre made some very solid beats on Relapse, but almost not one of them was more stellar than the lyrics, except for Underground.
Dre is slippin, but is obviously sitting on a bunch of ill shit... that even he doesn't know how ill it is... thus he is out of touch with modern rap.

ALASKA wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:
Conspiracy wrote: Cannibal Ox sucks, but are cool guys. If they didn't have 'the cold vein' beats?.....they'd be nowhere

W. T. F.

did my own blood brother just say that in the same thread that Alaska said Missy Elliott is a better rapper than me?

FUCKING RAP IS FUCKING OUT OF FUCKING CONTROL.

Tim, that's just like me saying Vanilla Ice is a better rapper than you cause he sold more. Dude, stop being such a bitter old man. Missy can afford a better mix than me. She can sing better than me. But as a RAPPER? C'mon dude. I'm not a battle MC but I'll step to Missy in a minute and slice her head off her now-half-decent body.

stop the madness

because i said she can rap better than you im a bitter old man? you cant even find a beat. you have no style. you jam 40 extra syllables into your raps. this isnt new shit. you know this and accept it. she has more flow and style than you so yes she can rap better than you. it has nothing to do with sales. it has to do with technical proficiency and that shit doesnt come from a mix.

i have songs with slow, sparse, minimalist flows. you ignore them, as do others.
to think of me as a one-dimensional rapper is to not know me at all, or know much of my past stuff, much less my new stuff.
it's all good.

and yes, as much as i love you as a friend, at times you come off like a crochety old man waving his cane from his front porch, and shaking his fist at these young rap scallions and their weird ways.

i know, i come off like a fucking rap/rapping insaniac at times (most times, probably).

i think that parts of each observation are true.

just don't think your opinion is accurate if you think i'm always rapping fast.
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Nas is going to be seen as the best rapper in world history in about 5 years. If you disagree... wait 5 years and holla at me

if Outkast makes another non-album album, then we oughta kidnap them and force them to record 10 songs together

the best thing Busta Rhymes could do for himself at this point in rap history is REUNITE THE LEADERS OF THE NEW SCHOOL

anything less is uncivilized.

Kalistoga · Post by **Kalistoga** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:34 pm

- Reasonable Doubt is NOT Jay's best album

- mainstream hip hop is currently more tolerable and has more replay value than underground hip hop.

ALASKA · Post by **ALASKA** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:36 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote:
ALASKA wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:
Conspiracy wrote: Cannibal Ox sucks, but are cool guys. If they didn't have 'the cold vein' beats?.....they'd be nowhere

W. T. F.

did my own blood brother just say that in the same thread that Alaska said Missy Elliott is a better rapper than me?

FUCKING RAP IS FUCKING OUT OF FUCKING CONTROL.

Tim, that's just like me saying Vanilla Ice is a better rapper than you cause he sold more. Dude, stop being such a bitter old man. Missy can afford a better mix than me. She can sing better than me. But as a RAPPER? C'mon dude. I'm not a battle MC but I'll step to Missy in a minute and slice her head off her now-half-decent body.

stop the madness

because i said she can rap better than you im a bitter old man? you cant even find a beat. you have no style. you jam 40 extra syllables into your raps. this isnt new shit. you know this and accept it. she has more flow and style than you so yes she can rap better than you. it has nothing to do with sales. it has to do with technical proficiency and that shit doesnt come from a mix.
i have songs with slow, sparse, minimalist flows. you ignore them, as do others.
to think of me as a one-dimensional rapper is to not know me at all, or know much of my past stuff, much less my new stuff.
it's all good.

and yes, as much as i love you as a friend, at times you come off like a crochety old man waving his cane from his front porch, and shaking his fist at these young rap scallions and their weird ways.

i know, i come off like a fucking rap/rapping insaniac at times (most times, probably).

i think that parts of each observation are true.

just don't think your opinion is accurate if you think i'm always rapping fast.

1. you are not a young rapper, weird yes, but not young. and I dont generally comment on new rappers unless i like them because i dont pay that much attention to new shit.

2. i have heard plenty of your music and i know you rap at all different speeds, but you still havent developed a style other than rapping haphazardly over the track, and you yourself said you like it that way. so own it and dont worry about what i have to say but dont act like as though rapping on beat and developing style approaches is not as important to a good rap song as the forward pass it to a football game.

sean · Post by **sean** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:37 pm

Employee wrote:Atmosphere is overrated.

that's actually a pretty common opinion.

nas > biggie

but i give biggie credit for not being around long enough to fall off.

hellbound.

sean · Post by **sean** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:38 pm

Kalistoga wrote: - mainstream hip hop is currently more tolerable and has more replay value than underground hip hop.

this.

Joe Pesci · Post by **Joe Pesci** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:41 pm

not sure how unpopular any of these are but w/e

Vol. 2 Hard Knock Life is a very good album.

Prodigy never fell off.

Pimp C was a better rapper than Bun B.

Big Time & Sex Style > Dr. Octagonecologyst

mud · Post by **mud** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:42 pm

Kalistoga wrote:- Reasonable Doubt is NOT Jay's best album

What is, Blueprint?

Joe Pesci · Post by **Joe Pesci** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:42 pm

sean wrote: but i give biggie credit for not being around long enough to fall off.

Roy Johnson · Post by **Roy Johnson** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:42 pm

oracle21 wrote:Channel Live's Station Identification is a dope album

Damn, how is this an unpopular opinion with tracks like these:

Station Identification
Reprogram
Mad Izm
Down Goes The Devil
Build & Destroy
Who U Represent

That's six certified bangers. I even like a lot of the deep album cuts, even if the refrains are unbearable. Shit, I pretty much like the entire thing. Hakim is awesome. Tuffy is okay - nothing special.

Roy Johnson · Post by **Roy Johnson** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:49 pm

Combo7 wrote:Saafir - Boxcar Sessions = garbage

You either love or hate that album. Generally speaking, there is no gray area.

lj · Post by lj » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:50 pm

- everything dre did pre 92 (including WCWC) >> everything dre did post 92
- funk your head up >> critical beatdown

Roy Johnson · Post by **Roy Johnson** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:53 pm

lj wrote:- everything dre did pre 92 (including WCWC) >> everything dre did post 92

I think that most people would share this opinion. His beats on the first three NWA albums are legendary. I ain't trying to hear any of that g-funk shit. My cut-off point is "Deep Cover".

Website · Post by **Random Sample** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:54 pm

Combo7 wrote:Don't know if this qualifies as "unpopular" per se, but Heather B's first album is a personal classic to me. Every track is fire and I still listen to it regularly.

Takin Mine is dope. I am a fan of that album

I listen to Boot Camp albums more often than

albums.

The new Mos Def album is good, and I listen to it on a regular basis.

Other than Outkast, southern rap music is hot garbage.

ALASKA · Post by **ALASKA** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:58 pm

is the heather b album the one with the song i get wreck?

Website · Post by **Random Sample** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:01 pm

ALASKA wrote:is the heather b album the one with the song i get wreck?

i get wreck I think was a 12" only song. It isn't on Takin Mine. Takin Mine has All Glocks Down, If Headz Only Knew, and a song with M.O.P.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:03 pm

ALASKA wrote:is the heather b album the one with the song i get wreck?

she only had one album.

ALASKA · Post by **ALASKA** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:03 pm

Random Sample wrote:
ALASKA wrote:is the heather b album the one with the song i get wreck?
i get wreck I think was a 12" only song. It isn't on Takin Mine. Takin Mine has All Glocks Down, If Headz Only Knew, and a song with M.O.P.

all glocks down was great.

Website · Post by **Random Sample** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:21 pm

Philaflava wrote:
ALASKA wrote:is the heather b album the one with the song i get wreck?
she only had one album.

she had two albums.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:24 pm

Random Sample wrote:
Philaflava wrote:
ALASKA wrote:is the heather b album the one with the song i get wreck?
she only had one album.
she had two albums.

What was the 2nd album? I know she had a single produced by Primo called "Guilty" but I wasn't aware there was a 2nd album.

Combo7 · Post by **Combo7** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:26 pm

Very disappointing after Takin' Mine. Not recommended.

senorhaha · Post by **senorhaha** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:51 pm

nas has sucked since illmatic

primo has sucked since 94

mikah9 was not born on earth

jup was doper then acey

busdriver has made some real dope songs

rbx shined nas krs and breal on east/west killer

both mainstream and underground hiphop music suck now, but underground has sucked for longer

thavius beck rules

sugafree is the best rapper ever

grimreaper/toopoetic was the best rapper affiliated with the wu

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:52 pm

senorhaha wrote:nas has sucked since illmatic

primo has sucked since 94

mikah9 was not born on earth

jup was doper then acey

busdriver has made some real dope songs

rbx shined nas krs and breal on east/west killer

both mainstream and underground hiphop music suck now, but underground has sucked for longer

thavius beck rules

sugafree is the best rapper ever

grimreaper/toopoetic was the best rapper affiliated with the wu