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Mindbender Futurama wrote:yeah, I expected someone to say that. I CERTAINLY don't expect people to adopt my radical perspective. But the thing is, DON'T COME AT ME TALKING SHIT ABOUT MY PHILOSOPHY IF YOU DON'T WANT ME TALKING SHIT AT YOU.

I'm in plenty of threads making jokes, admiring women, talking about movies and doing other normal stuff and not smashing people over their head with my philosophy. But there's enough "beautiful truth" jokes and personal stabs my way for me to reply how I feel. You want to judge me? Then I'll judge you. I call it like I see it, apparently exactly how you do to me.

You see a delusional hippie alien psychopath? I see a heartless, cynical, walking dead, pessimistic devil. I know you're more than that though, Reggie.

So know that I'm more than your incomplete opinion of me, too.

don't start none, won't be none.

and you guys KNOW you start shit with me a million times more than I start shit with you.

nobody gotta believe a word I say. but ignoring it is better than talking about it. cause if people want to start talking about my philosophy and try to break it down and break ME down, then you got a war on your hands that you won't win. I promise my love will outlast your hate. Or I'll die trying.
If drizzle came to the forum and said, "Hey, I just realized something amazing: two plus two equals four!" he would and should be mercilessly clowned for "realizing" something that most people learn or discover themselves before they are in the first grade.

If his response to this clowning was, "You can't deal with my mathematical genius, you're all hating on my hypothesis and furthermore you are all dead inside because you can't grasp the inherent beauty in two plus two equals four," then he would sound like a fucking idiot because most people can completely grasp the concept that two plus two equals four, and that there is no "inherent" beauty, in fact there is nothing more to two plus two equals four than two plus two equals four. If you find beauty, or horror, or anything in that formula except for two digits resulting in a sum, then you put that there, it is not something obvious.

This is similar to what you're doing. You preach a half-baked, solipistic set of ideas that, for many, were thought up and discarded before puberty ended. In fact, the "we are all Gods in our own right" appeals mainly to teenagers and armchair philosophers because it belies their actual powerlessness to effect any change in the world around them--kind of like how a lot of teenaged kids go straightedge, when the reality is that they can't buy alcohol or get laid very easily anyway. So, we laugh at your puerile, immature, and rehashed idea. If it was something new, or useful, then maybe you'd get another look. But it's not. It's the kind of shit cigarette-smoking kids with trench coats that live in suburban tract housing think up because mom won't give them a ride to the mall.

But you know, if you having a hippy-dippy philosophy was it, then that wouldn't be too bad. I am sure there are other registered users on the forum who believe some shit that is really out there--though they have had the prescience of mind to keep it to themselves and not reveal whatever personal shit gets them through the day. It's your insinuations that: 1) you are doing us a favor by labeling us all gods in your eyes, 2) claiming that we are embittered if we can't see your beautiful truth, and 3) acting like you should be immune to criticism when you do post the same tired old shit every day. "I touched a boob! Another beautiful day in heaven!" There's being optimistic, and there's being idiotic. You fall in the latter category.

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^^^ you know how I feel, or at least think you do, and don't feel like changing your mind today. So, thanks for your thoughts, Reggie. Peace.
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Mindbender Futurama wrote:remember that shit about when you fantasy world phaggots tried to sabotage my real life with the Gayest Thread in History and get me molested by middle aged homosexuals?
get real :lol:
hey man, it was brilliant and hilarious and arguably the best thing to ever happen here.

but let's not ignore the fact that there was attempts to have gay men actually hook up with me, as my real life information was craigslisted for the world to see.

DO NOT WANT :nut:
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Mindbender Futurama wrote:
ALASKA wrote: stop behaving like a petulant child. I never said you were a bad guy, i said you act like a dick.

For starters "my mom raised me not to ignore anyone" is a fucking idiot excuss. be a man and own your actions as opposed to blaming them on your mom. If she really did give you that advice its bad advice, you are in your 30s you should be able to make your own decisions. My mom raised me to go to church but eventually i stopped because I was able to use my decision making to know that it wasnt right for me.

so its my ego, that rejects your offer? do you see how arrogant that sounds? perhaps i dont find truth in what you offer because I have lived a life that has some decades, some experience, some knowledge and I have seen your truth a hundred times before and understood that it is basically bullshit. If it works for you fine run with it, but to assume taht it is the only path and taht we should all be paying attention to you because you are somehow special is HYPER EGO DRIVEN. Again, its my ego that rejects what you have to offer, really? take a look at that statement and tell me who is ego driven.

the thing you fail to realize is you are preaching to people who have already done the whole "my scene is special" thing. Your scene is special to you and thats great. Im happy that the people of toronto have a scene they enjoy. They deserve it. But is that a unique thing? no. NYC was special to me in the mid 90s when i was elbow deep in it, Philly was special to the people there, atlanta, LA, SF, etc. Does taht make it unique or special on a world level, not really. does taht take away what it should mean to the people involved? it shouldnt. there is nothing special about your scene that wasnt special to any of those other scenes. All the people in those scenes did it for the love, and the art and the people. Thats not unique, thats the culture.

you seem to think it is unique to toronto, and that its the best in the world, great we get it, you are from there. But have you been to all the scenes in the world? have you participated in all the scenes in all the countries? if not than your opinion isnt really valid, and childish.

you seem to forget that you are talking to adults who have been involved in hip hop for over 20 years on one level or another. We have seen the same shit come around time and time again. Its the nature of the beast. You, Toronto, Me, Thun, Jay, Reggie, Etc are nothing unique or special we are just part of it. the difference is some of us realize that.
you know I've NEVER ONCE said "my 'Life Is Heaven' perspective is the only way to think". God knows I hate Christianity too much to ever repeat its sins, Tim.

I NEVER want to tell anyone that my way is the only way. I never said that. Your ego is what doesn't like me. My ego is what doesn't like you. Our hearts are what connect us as friends (gay, I know). Egos are what clash when people fight. I don't think you can't fight someone's heart with your heart. It's not a fight if it's a heart to heart. Egos are what people defend, and attack. See: Kanye West. :lol:

you ALL can hate my philosophy all you want. just don't talk about it TO ME. I might reply.

you can reject me best by just ignoring me. don't try to enter an argument with a mad man. I admit, I'm pretty insane these days, with my beliefs. I AM a cult leader. But so are all my heroes. I'm a proud member of the Nasir Jones Cult of Hip Hop as well. I still throw up the Roc sign when I hear Jay-Z songs I love. I have no tattoos on my body, but the only two I have ever decided I would get are pretty much "Mindbender" with something music related... AND WU-TANG :wutang: .

see? there's our difference. I think YOU ALL are special. I know lots of people. I haven't been everywhere, but I've been a few places, and met a few people. And I can assure you, in my life so far, there's only one Alaska. Only one Windnbreeze. Only one Jason Gloss. Only one Roger Suarez. Only one Mindbender. Only one Conspiracy. I cherish and appreciate everyone on a level that scares some people. Do I idolize people? Almost. But I also say "I love you, but don't love your behavior" which brings me down to earth. Even though I call everyone Godly, the fact remains: nobody's perfect.

You don't think you are unique or special? I do. Let's agree to disagree, and find a thread with some titties we can both agree on.

thanks though. I don't know where my mind would be without Philaflava. Cheapest psychotherapy in the world :rofl:
one of the things i really appreciate about you mindbender is your enthusiasm and love for the music. seriously, not sarcastic at all. i do appreciate that. it is to be admired.

I dont hate your philosophy either. I think the point that i or others might not be getting across is, we dont need to hear about your philosophy everyday, and as much as you say you dont put it in every post, you often do. you sprinkle it in the lions share of your posts. we get it. If your philosophy works for you great, but until others ask you about it or for advice on some shit how about pocketing it for a while and having a conversation with people about regular shit. If we wanted to go to the temple of hip hop message board we would go there. We dont need it over and over again here.

and no i dont think im special. to do so would be to put me above someone. I am amazingly happy with my life now and with what i have done in music, with my contributions and what I have taken away from it. I dont think thats special though, and once everyone is special than nobody is. are there special people yes, but we probably wont be alive to know which ones from our time are the special ones. history will sort that out for future generations.

I get where you are coming from, i understand what you are saying. I think we all do, we just dont need to be beat over the head with it. Just like you dont need us jumping on you after every post. maybe we can find that common ground. you slow down with the special day in heaven shit, and go back to being a good contributer and we slow down with the play by play and attacks.

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Mindbender Futurama wrote:but let's not ignore the fact that there was attempts to have gay men actually hook up with me, as my real life information was craigslisted for the world to see.
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Mindbender Futurama wrote:but let's not ignore the fact that there was attempts to have gay men actually hook up with me, as my real life information was craigslisted for the world to see.
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TEH DILDO'S IZ CUMIN!!!!!!

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Mindbender Futurama wrote:
Sometimes I say "I'm wrong", and change my mind.
*makes excuses for rest of thread*

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Tommy Bunz wrote:You guys might as well be explaining to a baby why it shouldn't cry.

Dude is fruitbatshit insane and borderline retarded. Give up.

SOOOO on point.

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Roy Johnson wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:but let's not ignore the fact that there was attempts to have gay men actually hook up with me, as my real life information was craigslisted for the world to see.
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I feel sooooooooooooo wrong for literally laughing out loud at that.

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ALASKA wrote:
one of the things i really appreciate about you mindbender is your enthusiasm and love for the music. seriously, not sarcastic at all. i do appreciate that. it is to be admired.

I dont hate your philosophy either. I think the point that i or others might not be getting across is, we dont need to hear about your philosophy everyday, and as much as you say you dont put it in every post, you often do. you sprinkle it in the lions share of your posts. we get it. If your philosophy works for you great, but until others ask you about it or for advice on some shit how about pocketing it for a while and having a conversation with people about regular shit. If we wanted to go to the temple of hip hop message board we would go there. We dont need it over and over again here.

and no i dont think im special. to do so would be to put me above someone. I am amazingly happy with my life now and with what i have done in music, with my contributions and what I have taken away from it. I dont think thats special though, and once everyone is special than nobody is. are there special people yes, but we probably wont be alive to know which ones from our time are the special ones. history will sort that out for future generations.

I get where you are coming from, i understand what you are saying. I think we all do, we just dont need to be beat over the head with it. Just like you dont need us jumping on you after every post. maybe we can find that common ground. you slow down with the special day in heaven shit, and go back to being a good contributer and we slow down with the play by play and attacks.
it's a deal.

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Roy Johnson wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:but let's not ignore the fact that there was attempts to have gay men actually hook up with me, as my real life information was craigslisted for the world to see.
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I feel sooooooooooooo wrong for literally laughing out loud at that.
:bunk:

NO MAS, SENOR. NO MASSSSS

please Philapeople, make up some new jokes. Ty killed this one to death already. Try and top him, not stick your dick in his sloppy seconds.
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Who cares about Mr.Wonder...I was there when Death In Vegas called T-Dog the "trip hop capital of the developed world". It changed everything?

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Mindbender Futurama wrote:
Employee wrote:
Roy Johnson wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:but let's not ignore the fact that there was attempts to have gay men actually hook up with me, as my real life information was craigslisted for the world to see.
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I feel sooooooooooooo wrong for literally laughing out loud at that.
:bunk:

NO MAS, SENOR. NO MASSSSS

please Philapeople, make up some new jokes. Ty killed this one to death already. Try and top him, not stick your dick in his sloppy seconds.
Is it egregious even by message board standards? Yes. Still, though, that screen shot is fucking hilarious, man.

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Ghosty wrote:Who cares about Mr.Wonder...I was there when Death In Vegas called T-Dog the "trip hop capital of the developed world". It changed everything?
Hey Mother Fucker, we speak english on this message board. Not faggot.

Thanks.

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I just wanted to point out again......that this thread is all Stepfather's fault.
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Ghosty wrote:Who cares about Mr.Wonder...I was there when Death In Vegas called T-Dog the "trip hop capital of the developed world". It changed everything?
Hey Mother Fucker, we speak english on this message board. Not faggot.

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Mindbender Futurama wrote:please Philapeople, make up some new jokes. Ty killed this one to death already. Try and top him, not stick your dick in his sloppy seconds.
It's impossible to top that craigslist ad.

Anybody else would have retired from the internet after being embarrassed to such an extent. Props.
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Maybe it got missed.
Philaflava wrote:Dude, nothing you do is regular. Everything you say or do is grandiose and you KNOW that. It's apart of the whole scthick. The only problem is that scthick is in full effect 24/7 on these boards and people start to distance themselves or detest that attitude. You lack of humility. None of the biggest rappers who post here lack that and I have news for you, if Slug came here with that fucking attitude, not only would he get clowned but many people wouldn't even check for his shit or would be quick to diss it. FACT! Don't you get it? It's not always about your location or your skills, it's in the words you say and how you say them.

The biggest cliche in hip-hop is actually what you need to be doing, keep it real. Stop with the love. Stop with over-the-top comments or the constant hype of your music. Stop with how awesome your day was. Just stop. Nobody, doesn't matter who you are wants to hear that shit day in an day out. Addi, I generally feel sorry for you which is why it kind of bugs me every time I have to attack you.You're a little over 30 and you have no real job. You bounce around from low end jobs whether porn marketing or weed shops or whatever the hell you do. Nothing about you is stable.

You don't have a 401 or savings. No higher education. You don't make enough being a freelance writer and just last week you claimed you aren't even one. When you came to NY you couldn't even afford a place to stay, you slept in a vacant building. We know the rap shit isn't paying the bills and that one-time dream of it becoming a real job is slowly becoming a reality to you. It's a hobby, a hobby which you're extremely passionate nothing that is helping better your situation now.

You have a very unhealthy relationship with your family. I don't know the extent but I'm sure there is a lot of hurt there because of the resentment, lack of caring, communication and what have you. It hasn't made you better, it made you insecure. Nobody can go thought that and become better. NOBODY! You were abandon for the most part and that's just sad.

So on top of all that, you don't have a real job, a realistic game plan for the future, no savings, no real relationship, no OWNERSHIP (house or car) and you have a music career that is dwindling from a successful and financial standpoint. That's just tough to deal with. You're 30 years old, when are things going to change?

And I don't say all this to break you down, I swear I'm not. I'm being honest because those are all the reasons in the world for you to have humility. All the reasons in the world for you to say, you know what? Maybe I won't run to Philaflava or Twitter and type just how AMAZING lunch was because I got record 3 new tracks or how I was touched by an angelic person walking the street. STOP it.

You have EVERY reason to be upset at life, your family or your current situation. You have every reason to be bitter. That's why all this positively and constantly love you give comes off faker than Puffy at white party.

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^^^ Jason, I saw it. Good lookin out brother, but I LOVE my life. Even with all its imperfections. I don't hate myself when I wake up in the morning and I spend most of my days doing things I love with people I love.

Artists of the truest sense always are among the people who have the hardest time trying to set up themselves in the real world as artists, and not as part-time artists and part-time-whatever-elses. I pretty close to something great, I believe. I have hope for myself. And if I were to die tomorrow, I'd just ask El-P and Slug and Conspiracy to take all my music on my hard drives and spread them all over the world.

I'm good, bro. Please believe it.

off to the Hot Box Cafe to eat and smoke and do some good old fashioned physical labor, it's fun and humbling. I have a fun show coming up on Friday, a house party, and a few more shows in October, on top of having multiple projects about to drop before 2009 is over. My life journey is pretty satisfying. I don't need the things most of you might need. I'm happy. I'm in H----- , actually. (don't make me say it. you already know what I'm talking about :ironmike: )

peace to Alaska and Philaflava. I'll be gone for the rest of the day so enjoy your Mindbender-less internetting :rofl:
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Mindbender Futurama wrote:please Philapeople, make up some new jokes. Ty killed this one to death already. Try and top him, not stick your dick in his sloppy seconds.
It's impossible to top that craigslist ad.

Anybody else would have retired from the internet after being embarrassed to such an extent. Props.
:cheers:

well, knowing it's a lie helps.

but really: I take your stinking bullets!! I take your stinking bullets!!!
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Ghosty wrote:Who cares about Mr.Wonder...I was there when Death In Vegas called T-Dog the "trip hop capital of the developed world". It changed everything?
Hey Mother Fucker, we speak english on this message board. Not faggot.

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I dont want you to hate yourself. Believe it or not, I want you to be happy, to succeed and all that good stuff. I wish no ill will on anyone but it's okay to be fair to yourself. To accept and acknowledge the not-so-good. To say, hey you know what, maybe that song or album I made wasn't as good as I thought.

Maybe today isn't going to be the best day ever and that is okay. When you practically force-feed (whether you know it or not) your daily doings on this board you are pretty much throwing it in our faces about how great everything you do and experience is. As if we're not living the right way, the Mindbender way. And when anyone dares to comment we're automatically a hater.

Just try and CURB that enthusiasm and be fair to yourself. Not everything has to be a 10 in life. It's okay to fail and have bad days or bad music sometimes too.

You want it to be one way, but it's the other way.

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Mindbender - you're a faggot. yesterday, today, and tomorrow. Just in case you felt otherwise.

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These threads used to be entertaining. Now they crawl with latent homoeroticism.

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Things never to say around Mindbender #1:
ALASKA wrote:are there special people yes, but we probably wont be alive to know which ones from our time are the special ones. history will sort that out for future generations.
soon jesus will come and we will all clap
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ardamus wrote:I just wanted to point out again......that this thread is all Stepfather's fault.
:lol:

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Im glad you think Im special and all that Mindbetter, but Ima make a diss song towards you :killacam:

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DiMidio wrote:Im glad you think Im special and all that Mindbetter, but Ima make a diss song towards you :killacam:
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who is this bitch?

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Thun wrote:Mindbender - you're a faggot. yesterday, today, and tomorrow. Just in case you felt otherwise.
Don't worry, Roger. Even though almost nobody gives a fuck about what you think, I still do.

There's some more homoeroticism, Employee :cookiecookie:
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Freudian flip!

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