I, like a lot of people, believe that intellectual property and especially music (like all other artforms) has value. I also know that itגs very hard to stop the dissemination of intellectual property once its in a digital form.
So, what if a song was treated like, say, a painting? What if it was sold by the artist just once at a high value? The artist gets paid up front (for once) and after that, nature takes its course.
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interesting.
who pays the first high price, though?
who pays the first high price, though?
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I believe Sufjan Stevens did this for one of his songs, which the owner only allowed certain people to ever hear.
Kinda seems shitty, doesn't it?
some blog wrote:Want to hear Sufjanגs song גThe Lonely Man of Winterג aka the song that will never be uploaded? If you live in or near Brooklyn, NY then you are in luck. Alec Duffy, the winner of The Great Sufjan Song Xmas Xchange contest in 2007, is hosting Hoi Polloiגs Sufjan Stevens Winter Song Exclusive Listening Sessions:
We would like to invite you to our Brooklyn home for an exclusive listening session of this gorgeous song, with hot beverages and cookiesג¦ Weגll be holding the sessions every Wednesday through February 25th. There will be sessions at 4 pm, 6 pm and 8 pmג¦ There is limited availability of four people per session.
Annie Scott, a playwright and actress based in NYC, attended one of the first listening sessions. She posted an article about the saga of The Secret Sufjan Stevens Song.
Originally, Duffy planned גa holiday show for 2008 in which the song will figure prominently,ג but held off due to lack of funds. Fans on the Sufjanfans.com forum proposed recording the holiday show and posting it to YouTube so that those unable to travel to New York would have an opportunity to hear the song. Duffy disapproves, so plans for a 2009 holiday show are now up in the air.
So far the fans have responded to the exclusive listening sessions and proposed holiday shows with disappointment. One fan says, גnot everyone has the meansג to travel to New York and calls them גsnooty little tea parties.ג
Kinda seems shitty, doesn't it?
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Basically. Shit's wack.Smooth Lou wrote:Yeah, you'd think so, until some random jagbag buys the new Ghostface with daddy's credit card and decides you can only come listen to it if you crawl to his house on your knees, Santa Muerte style, from wherever you live.Nathan Blaze wrote:Lou, that is actually pretty fucking awesome.
"Listening tea parties" is some extremely faggish priveleged sounding shit.
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Man, those people with their cookies and Sufjan Stevens song. They're probably the most insufferable pukes imaginable. I'd like to go to one of these listening sessions to smash their apartment up.Smooth Lou wrote:I believe Sufjan Stevens did this for one of his songs, which the owner only allowed certain people to ever hear.
some blog wrote:Want to hear Sufjanגs song גThe Lonely Man of Winterג aka the song that will never be uploaded? If you live in or near Brooklyn, NY then you are in luck. Alec Duffy, the winner of The Great Sufjan Song Xmas Xchange contest in 2007, is hosting Hoi Polloiגs Sufjan Stevens Winter Song Exclusive Listening Sessions:
We would like to invite you to our Brooklyn home for an exclusive listening session of this gorgeous song, with hot beverages and cookiesג¦ Weגll be holding the sessions every Wednesday through February 25th. There will be sessions at 4 pm, 6 pm and 8 pmג¦ There is limited availability of four people per session.
Annie Scott, a playwright and actress based in NYC, attended one of the first listening sessions. She posted an article about the saga of The Secret Sufjan Stevens Song.
Originally, Duffy planned גa holiday show for 2008 in which the song will figure prominently,ג but held off due to lack of funds. Fans on the Sufjanfans.com forum proposed recording the holiday show and posting it to YouTube so that those unable to travel to New York would have an opportunity to hear the song. Duffy disapproves, so plans for a 2009 holiday show are now up in the air.
So far the fans have responded to the exclusive listening sessions and proposed holiday shows with disappointment. One fan says, גnot everyone has the meansג to travel to New York and calls them גsnooty little tea parties.ג
Kinda seems shitty, doesn't it?
But yeah, Buck's idea is alright, new ideas are good.
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This is a moronic idea because ownership of a song is pointless if no one can hear it, and worthless if everyone can hear it.
Maybe the artist will sell a chunk of the publishing? If I buy a song or album for whatever ludicrous sum you think music is worth, you had better believe I expect to get full publishing, royalty, and licensing rights. Fuck it, I want songwriting and executive producer credit too. Only on Planet Canada could such a dopey idea be conceived, where people would simply be altruistic enough to plop down new car money on some music, share it with the world, and kick money back to the artist for airplay.
How about instead of making music in your sinister, cavernous vault and releasing it periodically to auctioneers at Sotheby's, you get the fuck off your ass and perform your precious music for the fans? If you think it's worth a high price, charge $5,000 for tickets. If people are as down with supporting the arts you say, then you should live lovely on two shows a year.
Maybe the artist will sell a chunk of the publishing? If I buy a song or album for whatever ludicrous sum you think music is worth, you had better believe I expect to get full publishing, royalty, and licensing rights. Fuck it, I want songwriting and executive producer credit too. Only on Planet Canada could such a dopey idea be conceived, where people would simply be altruistic enough to plop down new car money on some music, share it with the world, and kick money back to the artist for airplay.
How about instead of making music in your sinister, cavernous vault and releasing it periodically to auctioneers at Sotheby's, you get the fuck off your ass and perform your precious music for the fans? If you think it's worth a high price, charge $5,000 for tickets. If people are as down with supporting the arts you say, then you should live lovely on two shows a year.