NAS vs GHOSTFACE

Los · Post by **Los** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:46 pm

I love both of these tracks. But which one you like more?

Nas - No Idea's Original
http://s1.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=032D6 ... 7D35B93A73

Ghostface - The Watch
http://s1.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=93C7A ... 45D94F1F70

If you dont know what i am talking about here are the tracks.

mud · Post by **mud** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:07 pm

no ideas original...

Naught · Post by **Naught** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:07 pm

I like both tracks a lot, but the concept of 'The Watch' is so hilarious, I have to go with Tony Starks.

David · Post by **David** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:19 pm

Which version of No Idea's Original is this? The one that was on Lost Tapes or the one that was a bonus on Stillmatic with an extra chorus in the middle and a different beat?

Edit: regardless of the fact that I like Nas more than Ghostface, I agree with Naught's reasoning, and will vote for Ghost.

Los · Post by **Los** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:29 pm

David wrote:Which version of No Idea's Original is this? The one that was on Lost Tapes or the one that was a bonus on Stillmatic with an extra chorus in the middle and a different beat?

Edit: regardless of the fact that I like Nas more than Ghostface, I agree with Naught's reasoning, and will vote for Ghost.

version from Lost Tapes

SoulClap · Post by **SoulClap** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:40 pm

"Turn on the radio all you hear is X & Jigga, haha you vexed nigga"

Funk Docta Bombay · Post by **Funk Docta Bombay** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:06 pm

The Watch is absolutely insane. I mean the idea is original in itself, but I can see another emcee doing it...but only Tony Starks could make it come out as an entertaining psycho conversation like he did. Any other emcee would have made a trite attempt at being "serious" by trying to explain how money is the root of all evil in the track.

Nas' concept was no slouch in itself (well, actually it only works in the lost tapes version since it uses a common breakbeat) but honestly it can't cut the mustard in this one.

definitely "The Watch"

The ILLatino · Post by **The ILLatino** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:08 pm

mud wrote:no ideas original...

oracle21 · Post by **oracle21** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:29 pm

gotta go with nasty nas on this one

MCBwatdown · Post by **MCBwatdown** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:33 pm

Yo, let me tell y'all mothafuckas somethin'
(Shoot one of those niggas, Lord)
We could battle for belts, ice (Type shit)
Whatever the fuck you want to do
Let me tell y'all somethin'
This the Theodore Unit, mothafucka
We takin' the bait of this shit
That's word to my momma, man
(Staten Island, nigga, what, nigga?)
Coke, spoon throwers (Get ya money right)
(Gotta know how real do this)
Slew-footed mothafuckas, I pop all y'all niggas
Y'all niggas is fucked, straight up
We back in here now, mothafuckas
It's the fuckin' Unit, you heard
That's the Theodore Unit
Y'all mothafuckas better recognize
Aight? That's my word
(Yeah, nigga, yeah)

marinville · Post by **marinville** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 1:59 am

djm13 · Post by **djm13** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 2:11 am

nasir

Mike (NJJ) · Post by **Mike (NJJ)** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 9:41 am

Ghost.

Wu-Tang forever, you sumbitches.

Doogs · Post by **Doogs** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 9:43 am

I like both tracks and artists and all, but come on you guys...

GF at his best isn't even close to Nas at his best.

and that track is definitely Nas at his best.

shopvack · Post by **shopvack** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:40 am

The ILLatino wrote:
mud wrote:no ideas original...
...theres nothin new under the sun

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:50 am

Both jawns are sick but I'll have to go with Nas on this one.

Kilgore786 · Post by **Kilgore786** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:53 am

djm13 wrote:Nasir

ogice · Post by **ogice** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 11:25 am

Doogs wrote:I like both tracks and artists and all, but come on you guys...

GF at his best isn't even close to Nas at his best.

and that track is definitely Nas at his best.

Nas will never make 2 songs as dope as All that I Got Is You and Mighty Healthy...

kracker · Post by **kracker** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 11:42 am

Icesickle wrote:
Doogs wrote:I like both tracks and artists and all, but come on you guys...

GF at his best isn't even close to Nas at his best.

and that track is definitely Nas at his best.

Nas will never make 2 songs as dope as All that I Got Is You and Mighty Healthy...

You sure about that?

agent b · Post by **agent b** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 11:46 am

you can add Mos Def - "Grown Man Business" to the mix

ogice · Post by **ogice** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 11:51 am

kracker wrote:
Icesickle wrote:
Doogs wrote:I like both tracks and artists and all, but come on you guys...

GF at his best isn't even close to Nas at his best.

and that track is definitely Nas at his best.

Nas will never make 2 songs as dope as All that I Got Is You and Mighty Healthy...
You sure about that?

Yes.

Nas alternates with Ghost as my 1st and 2nd favorite MC, but to say Nas at his best kills Ghost at his best is ridiculous.

When Ghost pours his soul out (All That I Got, Impossible) no one is touching him.

Funk Docta Bombay · Post by **Funk Docta Bombay** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 12:30 pm

I don't think another emcee dead or alive has lyrics that are as good on paper as Nas. Ghost, Rakim and a couple of others come close but Nas' total back catalogue is simply unfuckwitable. Others can outflow him, pick better beats or not drop as many duds, but at his best Nas' words can't really be matched by anyone in his generation.

that said I'm VERY surprised that Ghost is'nt killin him in this contest. The Watch is just a better song to me...

ogice · Post by **ogice** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 2:57 pm

Funk Docta Bombay wrote: Nas' words can't really be matched by anyone in his generation.

And no, I'm not kidding about the last pic...dude might have an annoying voice, but the man is a poet.

Los · Post by **Los** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:03 pm

yep, ill agree, Dose is a good poet

mud · Post by **mud** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:13 pm

Icesickle wrote:
Doogs wrote:I like both tracks and artists and all, but come on you guys...

GF at his best isn't even close to Nas at his best.

and that track is definitely Nas at his best.

Nas will never make 2 songs as dope as All that I Got Is You and Mighty Healthy...

undying love and get down

ogice · Post by **ogice** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:20 pm

mud wrote:
Icesickle wrote:
Doogs wrote:I like both tracks and artists and all, but come on you guys...

GF at his best isn't even close to Nas at his best.

and that track is definitely Nas at his best.

Nas will never make 2 songs as dope as All that I Got Is You and Mighty Healthy...
undying love and get down

Undying Love is like a slick action movie, all style, no substance.

If I had to name two songs that could compete with the 2 Ghost songs I'd pick Memory Lane and Poppa Was a Playa.

They're almost as good (Poppa Was a Playa is AS good, imo) but I still think Ghost carries a slight edge.

That's not a diss though, cause both those songs would probably make my top 10 hip-hop songs ever.

Millie Pulled a Pistol on Santa
Trying People
Fat Cats, Bigger Fish
All That I Got Is You
Mighty Healthy
Poppa Was a Playa
Memory Lane
Microphone Fiend
God's Bathroom Floor :)
Children's Story

mud · Post by **mud** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:24 pm

undying love = best storytelling in the history of music

and poppa was a player wouldn't make my top 50 nas tracks...the 12th best song on lost tapes...

ogice · Post by **ogice** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:39 pm

mud wrote:undying love = best storytelling in the history of music

and poppa was a player wouldn't make my top 50 nas tracks...the 12th best song on lost tapes...

If Poppa Was a Player is #12 out of all the songs on Lost Tapes, you have no soul and can't relate to heartbreak/struggle; point blank.

And I have the best storytelling tracks on my list:

Millie Pulled a Pistol On Santa
Children's Story
Big Cats, Bigger Fish

ogice · Post by **ogice** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:39 pm

mud · Post by **mud** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:50 pm

Icesickle wrote:
If Poppa Was a Player is #12 out of all the songs on Lost Tapes, you have no soul and can't relate to heartbreak/struggle; point blank.

its still a great song i just prefer the 11 other great tracks on that album

NAS vs GHOSTFACE

Same sample, which track is better?

NAS vs GHOSTFACE