Future - Pluto

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Sat May 05, 2012 6:40 pm

I know that this forum has been on a decidedly non-commercial ebb recently, but to me, this is one of the most interesting albums of the year thus far. Obviously, the guy is not going to blow your mind lyrically, but as far as style over substance hop, this shit is about as smooth as you can get - somewhere between T-Pain and Autotune Wayne, but with a style that's distinctly different from anybody else out. I can get why some might not be interested. It's definitely a far cry Ka or Billy Woods, but the fact that there's no discussion of this album at all on hip hop forum in 2012 shows a lack of range here.

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Love it or hate it, it's worth discussing in my opinion.

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Sat May 05, 2012 7:06 pm

it's well produced filler.

i wish him the best, but he's not doing anything 397 other MCs aren't doing.

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Sat May 05, 2012 7:31 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote:it's well produced filler.

i wish him the best, but he's not doing anything 397 other MCs aren't doing.

Name some. I'm not saying the guy is super lyrical, but he's definitely unique.

siLLy KiD · Post by **siLLy KiD** » Sat May 05, 2012 8:16 pm

2 cents - hot garbage. Like unbearable...Sorry.

ackbar · Post by **ackbar** » Sat May 05, 2012 8:49 pm

future not the future. i like the record a lot but a lot of it is emo love ballads so of course i would

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Sat May 05, 2012 9:43 pm

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:it's well produced filler.

i wish him the best, but he's not doing anything 397 other MCs aren't doing.

Name some. I'm not saying the guy is super lyrical, but he's definitely unique.

almost everything is better than this. the beats carry him anywhere his songs go. all i hear is synths cascading from Auto-Tune Heaven all over these songs. There's all kinds of studio post-production on all these songs, I can't get much of a sense of who he really is as a rapper. But from what I DO hear, I don't hear anything I've never heard before. We must have very different brain discographies.

I ain't even trying to hate. I named an album 'Jupiter', of course I'm going to check out this guy, LOL. But it just didn't do much for me :kanyeshrug:

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Sat May 05, 2012 9:45 pm

and there isn't one moment lyrically that made me think this guy is part of the Future of MCs instead of part of the Past...

but at the same time, as far as mainstream music goes, this stuff is slightly more creative than the average. for whatever that's worth

Req · Post by **Req** » Sat May 05, 2012 9:55 pm

good thread, tell me more about how wack you think Drake is

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Sat May 05, 2012 10:37 pm

Req wrote:good thread, tell me more about how wack you think Drake is

I don't really think Drake is wack, actually. But you get very defensive about it, so it's funny to me. But I'm not sure how you could like Drake and not like Future or Mase really. Their appeal is pretty similar. All style over substance hip hop music. End to end this album is better than Take Care though.

MB, it's probably not worth getting into with you, as we see eye to eye on plenty of rappers. But as I stated up front, I don't think this is album of the year candidate, nor do I think it's some pinnacle of lyrical anything. The notion of striping away production, and autotune, etc is silly - that's a part of the album. Artist/producer/mixer/masterer - they're all important components of a good product. But just for the sake of argument, you took all of that away, the guy's style of making music, whether you consider it rap or R&B or somewhere in between, is unique. You might not like it, and that's fine - subject matter wise and lyrically I understand there's no new ground here - but you there's not a lot out there that's similar.

It's probably the biggest commercial hip hop album out right now (if any of you listened to radio or just drove around in the city to hear what others in the city listened to you'd realize this). I'm not saying the shit is classic or even one of my favorites of the year. All I said is the album is worthy of discussion. For instance we could discuss the Dungeon Family influence, the Big Rube feature, the production - which is some of the best of the year. Whether his stylistic approach is something that will stick, go away, or catch on like wildfire (like T-Pain's use of autotune did a few years back). Whether Mike Will Made It is the next big thing production wise, etc. But, clearly none of you, except Ackbar, have actually listened to the album, so there's not a great deal to discuss.

Req · Post by **Req** » Sat May 05, 2012 10:57 pm

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote: I don't really think Drake is wack, actually. But you get very defensive about it, so it's funny to me. But I'm not sure how you could like Drake and not like Future or Mase really. Their appeal is pretty similar. All style over substance hip hop music. End to end this album is better than Take Care though.

Future and Mase are schlepps. Drake is what Shakespeare would be if he wasn't actually an aggregation of English authors.

battlecatmeowstab212 · Sun May 06, 2012 2:10 am

Future is the only rap artist since Gorilla Zoe who has done anything remotely interesting with auto-tune. Instead of just using it to fake sing or make a robot voice, Future goes in enough interesting directions with his own voice to really utilize autotune as an instrument. He also has a knack for writing hooks.

"Permanent Scar" and "Same Damn Time" are my favorites.

"Tony Montana" is the only track I think is flatout awful. It's a shame that that's the first single.

Moolah · Post by **Moolah** » Sun May 06, 2012 2:54 am

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Sun May 06, 2012 3:53 am

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
Req wrote:good thread, tell me more about how wack you think Drake is
I don't really think Drake is wack, actually. But you get very defensive about it, so it's funny to me. But I'm not sure how you could like Drake and not like Future or Mase really. Their appeal is pretty similar. All style over substance hip hop music. End to end this album is better than Take Care though.

MB, it's probably not worth getting into with you, as we see eye to eye on plenty of rappers. But as I stated up front, I don't think this is album of the year candidate, nor do I think it's some pinnacle of lyrical anything. The notion of striping away production, and autotune, etc is silly - that's a part of the album. Artist/producer/mixer/masterer - they're all important components of a good product. But just for the sake of argument, you took all of that away, the guy's style of making music, whether you consider it rap or R&B or somewhere in between, is unique. You might not like it, and that's fine - subject matter wise and lyrically I understand there's no new ground here - but you there's not a lot out there that's similar.

It's probably the biggest commercial hip hop album out right now (if any of you listened to radio or just drove around in the city to hear what others in the city listened to you'd realize this). I'm not saying the shit is classic or even one of my favorites of the year. All I said is the album is worthy of discussion. For instance we could discuss the Dungeon Family influence, the Big Rube feature, the production - which is some of the best of the year. Whether his stylistic approach is something that will stick, go away, or catch on like wildfire (like T-Pain's use of autotune did a few years back). Whether Mike Will Made It is the next big thing production wise, etc. But, clearly none of you, except Ackbar, have actually listened to the album, so there's not a great deal to discuss.

Totally, mang. Except I heard 5 songs so far. And didn't like any of them. I'm cool with it. Some stuff just doesn't move me much. If I don't like it, I don't like it, that don't mean that I'm... common

Hating is for lames and L7's. If I hear a song of his that I like, I'll jam it. For now, meh.

I don't fuck with none of Wiz Khalifa's stuff really... but that song 'Take Away'? AWESOME song to me.

that's how it is these days.

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Sun May 06, 2012 3:57 am

battlecatmeowstab212 wrote:Future is the only rap artist since Gorilla Zoe who has done anything remotely interesting with auto-tune. Instead of just using it to fake sing or make a robot voice, Future goes in enough interesting directions with his own voice to really utilize autotune as an instrument. He also has a knack for writing hooks.

"Permanent Scar" and "Same Damn Time" are my favorites.

"Tony Montana" is the only track I think is flatout awful. It's a shame that that's the first single.

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Sun May 06, 2012 4:07 am

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
Req wrote:good thread, tell me more about how wack you think Drake is
I don't really think Drake is wack, actually. But you get very defensive about it, so it's funny to me.

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axel foley · Post by **axel foley** » Sun May 06, 2012 2:21 pm

pluto's been getting a ton of spins from me, which is odd seeing as how i can probably count on one hand the amount of songs that I dig that rely heavily on autotune. maybe because the ballads on here don't so calculated or grandiose? would def like to see someone who can write just a bit better take a shot at this sound/direction/or whatever you want categorize this shit as.

favorite jams are "truth gonna hurt you" and "neva end." hella

noz's take on the album.

http://www.spin.com/reviews/future-plut ... -bandzepic

young god · Post by **young god** » Sun May 06, 2012 2:22 pm

That "I'm Trippin" is awesome, but thats the only one I liked out of the ones posted.

david111 · Post by **david111** » Sun May 06, 2012 2:37 pm

Great album

Dap · Post by **Dap** » Sun May 06, 2012 2:43 pm

there's really not much to say

dude is ok/below average as a rapper and the beats are pretty hot

DJCommunist · Post by **DJCommunist** » Sun May 06, 2012 3:05 pm

siLLy KiD wrote:2 cents - hot garbage. Like unbearable...Sorry.

dude sounds like he's getting strangled with his talk box chord

capable_keL · Post by **capable_keL** » Sun May 06, 2012 3:47 pm

i have a wide spectrum of shit I can get into, but besides notable production value the album has nothing I can identify with. the songs barely hold my attention and i had to force myself to digest the songs.

not exactly the kind of record i throw on in my free time

but, by today's standards im sure this has more value than most.

blastmaster · Post by **blastmaster** » Sun May 06, 2012 5:18 pm

Good album. Future is no Young Thug though...

david111 · Post by **david111** » Sun May 06, 2012 5:19 pm

future is no young thug but 'i came from nothing 2' is no pluto

GUCCI CONDOMS · Post by **GUCCI CONDOMS** » Sun May 06, 2012 5:30 pm

blastmaster wrote:Good album. Future is no Young Thug though...

I agree, young thug > future...future def doing his thing tho

whats your opinion on chief keef? he been droppin some heat lately...

good thread OP, this thread was needed, M2C had been becoming increasingly out of touch over the last few months...

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Sun May 06, 2012 6:02 pm

Classic.

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Sun May 06, 2012 6:11 pm

Thun wrote:Classic.

siLLy KiD · Post by **siLLy KiD** » Sun May 06, 2012 6:23 pm

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
Thun wrote:Classic.

multsanta · Post by **multsanta** » Sun May 06, 2012 11:06 pm

Thun wrote:Classic.

Escobar305 · Post by **Escobar305** » Sun May 20, 2012 8:26 am

http://www.sharebeast.com/07rho586dcjl
Same damn time remix. Diddy>>>>>>

Escobar305 · Post by **Escobar305** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:00 am

The future of the game includes future

1. The Future Is Now (Intro)
2. You Deserve It
3. First Class Flights (Prod. by Sonny Digital)
4. Jealous (Prod. by MikeWillMadeIt)
5. Turn On The Lights
6. Straight Up
7. My (Prod. by Sonny Digital)
8. Same Damn Time (Remix) feat. Diddy & Ludacris
9. Neva End (Remix) feat. Kelly Rowland
10. Tony Montana feat. Drake
11. Magic feat. T.I.
12. Homicide feat. Snoop Dogg
13. I’m Trippin
14. Parachute feat. R. Kelly
15. Long Live The Pimp
16. Astronaut Chick
17. Permanent Scar
18. Truth Gonna Hurt You

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