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Six-Two really got the shaft huh? It's too bad too, cuz he was dope.



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peanut butter wrote:Six-Two really got the shaft huh? It's too bad too, cuz he was dope.
Yeah for real, who the fuck was that guy? he killed every verse he had.
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old rap lady says
no songs on chronic 2 were as major as g thang.
also chronic 1 lead to doggystyle. i mean.
chronic 2 has lots of awesome songs but was not a game changer of the chronic 1 caliber.
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thatkidnero wrote:
peanut butter wrote:Six-Two really got the shaft huh? It's too bad too, cuz he was dope.
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Yeah for real, who the fuck was that guy? he killed every verse he had.

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Tweak Da Leak wrote:just as much as Game "The Documentary" is.
Hey now, 2001 has actual quality rapping on it.
Matthew wrote:
It was initially titled The Chronic 2000 to imply being a sequel to his debut solo effort The Chronic but was re-titled 2001 after Death Row Records released an unrelated compilation album with the title Chronic 2000: Still Smokin in May 1999. Other tentative titles included The Chronic 2001 and Dr. Dre.
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For a chunk of summer 1999 after the Death Rom compilation dropped, it was also set to be called Chronic 2000: No Seeds, but I'm speculating Dre and company didn't want to give their former employer any shine at all, leaving the only connection to "Chronic" as the leaf on the cover right before the 2001.

It's probably the best mixed and mastered rap album that's ever been released, or at the very least it's the standard that changed the genre in that regard.
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Matthew wrote:you're trying too hard if you don't consider this a classic

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Let Jaz Down wrote:They're both classics and equally great in their own rights. Arguing between the 2 is some annoying internet faggotry.
Thought I could rely on you to back me up.

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sleazy_j wrote:
I guess when it dropped in '99 I was elbow deep in anything I thought was 'underground' so turned my nose up at guest spots by people like Xzibit and Snoop.
I'll download it.
Xzibit hadn't even had any major radio singles before being on 2001. (Too bad because "What You See Is What You Get" had a dope video.) His 2001 and his Marshall Mathers LP guest spots actually did wonders for his career.
Paparazzi was pretty major, no? That got loads of radio play over here.

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Y@k Bollocks wrote:
sleazy_j wrote:
I guess when it dropped in '99 I was elbow deep in anything I thought was 'underground' so turned my nose up at guest spots by people like Xzibit and Snoop.
I'll download it.
Xzibit hadn't even had any major radio singles before being on 2001. (Too bad because "What You See Is What You Get" had a dope video.) His 2001 and his Marshall Mathers LP guest spots actually did wonders for his career.
Paparazzi was pretty major, no? That got loads of radio play over here.
It wasn't huge. Like, it got regular rotation in rap circles, but that and "What U See" got no shine from the likes of MTV whatsoever.

His guest verse on Snoop's "Bitch Please" was probably his breakout moment in terms of crossing over with John Edward to that next level:

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i know that snoop song happened first but dont forget xzibits album Restless, executive produced by dr dre, thats also what really did it for X to the Z

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Def Bitch Please was his defining moment in white pop culture.

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battlecatmeowstab212 wrote:
Tweak Da Leak wrote:just as much as Game "The Documentary" is.
Hey now, 2001 has actual quality rapping on it.
Matthew wrote:
It was initially titled The Chronic 2000 to imply being a sequel to his debut solo effort The Chronic but was re-titled 2001 after Death Row Records released an unrelated compilation album with the title Chronic 2000: Still Smokin in May 1999. Other tentative titles included The Chronic 2001 and Dr. Dre.
from wiki
For a chunk of summer 1999 after the Death Rom compilation dropped, it was also set to be called Chronic 2000: No Seeds, but I'm speculating Dre and company didn't want to give their former employer any shine at all, leaving the only connection to "Chronic" as the leaf on the cover right before the 2001.

It's probably the best mixed and mastered rap album that's ever been released, or at the very least it's the standard that changed the genre in that regard.


I always assumed the real title was still Chronic 2001, that's what the leaf was for.... calling it "2001" seems awfully literal, like trying to pronounce 'efil4zaggin'

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Balzac wrote:A lot of people i know in their mid 20's definitely think its a classic.
On point.

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i echo the sentiments in this thread. i really dug a couple of tracks on it, but ultimately the filler proved to be too much of a turn off. that's why i can't consider it a 'classic' in the traditional sense.
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There might be some filler but it doesnt detract from the overall quality too much as the sound is consistent throughout.
Its not one of these albums with a random Swizz Beatz joint halfway through or whatever. Dre did a good job with the sequencing.
If Eminem was on it more it might sounded a bit unbalanced but Dre seemed to let him keep some of his best stuff for his own album.
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mud wrote:
Let Jaz Down wrote:They're both classics and equally great in their own rights. Arguing between the 2 is some annoying internet faggotry.
Thought I could rely on you to back me up.

You still think Life After Death shits on Ready To Die at least, right?
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Larry2times wrote:
mud wrote:
You still think Life After Death shits on Ready To Die at least, right?
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

I didnt know I had peoples out there!
Let Jaz Down wrote:They're both classics and equally great in their own rights. Arguing between the 2 is some annoying internet faggotry.
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Oh shit, I forgot about Six-Two as well. Whatever happened to that guy?
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Most of the rappers on that album aren't doing shit these days, besides Em and maybe you could say Xzibit, although none are checking for him. Look at the list.

Tray Dee
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Philaflava wrote:Most of the rappers on that album aren't doing shit these days. Look at the list.

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Tray Dee got locked didn't he?

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step one wrote:
Larry2times wrote:
mud wrote:
You still think Life After Death shits on Ready To Die at least, right?
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

I didnt know I had peoples out there!
Let Jaz Down wrote:They're both classics and equally great in their own rights. Arguing between the 2 is some annoying internet faggotry.
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battlecatmeowstab212 wrote:
It wasn't huge. Like, it got regular rotation in rap circles, but that and "What U See" got no shine from the likes of MTV whatsoever.
this. being in the south in a non-metro area, this was never on any radio station within my antenna's reach. i only knew of the latter track because I had purchased DirecTV back then, when it was DirecTV/USSB and saw the video on M2 before it became MTV2.

M2 was cool because it was 24 hours of music videos, regardless of genre, and pretty much you never saw two videos from the same genre back to back. i did realize, though, that the 24 hour rotation was actually 8 hours played 3 times a day, which helped me VHS tape many videos from that time, knowing the schedule. Oh, and they never played anything that was running on heavy rotation on regular MTV at the time.

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I never knew Nas and Jay-z ghost wrote some verses on this... self- :fail:

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Y@k Bollocks wrote:
peanut butter wrote:
Y@k Bollocks wrote:Don't think I've ever listened to this album, much as I loved The Chronic.

What in the fuck? Why?



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Actually, I'm positive I've never listened to it.

I dunno why, really.

I guess when it dropped in '99 I was elbow deep in anything I thought was 'underground' so turned my nose up at guest spots by people like Xzibit and Snoop. Add to that the fact that I was attending hip hop nights like Scratch in London, which catered for a largely white male crowd, so never really got into the singles off it.

And I just never got round to revisiting it.

I'll download it.
There were a lot of self-confessed "real" heads in the London scene that never heard this album at the time for the same reason. I guess a lot of it seemed to come down to snobbery, but it didn't help that Missing Linx flipped that same break, and heads would automatically claim it to be the better version. It's a shame, 'cause they missed out on a cracking album.

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How has someone not heard 2001? This is blowing my mind.

Classic..... maybe. At the VERY least, some classic tracks. It wasn't revolutionary though.
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This threads a trip. be hard pressed to find that many people from my generation who dont know a song verbatim

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