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I don't fuck with no Action Bronson until he changes his ways. SHIT IS DISGUSTING, B
One has to wonder if Bronson will ever recover from this. Doubtful.
I'm not trying to stop him. I'm just stating my case, and moving on.

I'm not fighting Action Bronson, I'm fighting misogyny in general. This was one battle. I did my thing and felt fine about it. I don't even care if 99% of hip hop culture disagrees with me. I did not like what I saw, and I said why.

I only spoke about this because someone asked. I really couldn't give a fuck about trying to take out Action Bronson. He'll play himself out eventually. And I'll still be doing something real. Maybe I'll learn how to cook from him, does he do vegetarian? LOL. Find me listening to any of his music? Doubtful.
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the woman's consent is literally the only thing that matters.
what about bronson's consent? nobody here thought to ask if he's ok with it?? SMH misandrists
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this retard is still going on about it even after literally everyone has stated how wrong stupid he's being. yo bender, turn your fucking brain on. u are absolutely 100% incorrect with this one, there is no grey area. you are simply wrong. the girl liked it and consented to it. end of story. does bronson rap about misogynistic shit? does he call women bitches in his songs? does he have any songs about fucking girls? if the answer is yes to any of these, then it seems to me that him gropping a bitch on stage fits right in with his act, and actually should be expected to happen as par for the course. jesus i dont know why im even trying to explain it, hes completely delusional, only a complete moron could believe they are still right after the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

let me put it into terms that even you can understand since you're in the porno industry and all. what you are doing right now, is like if you watched a porno, and then called the police and claimed the women in the porno was being raped. and then the police went and talked to the girl and she tells them "no i wasnt raped, i like getting fucked on camera" and even after that, you still maintained your position that what happened in the porno was rape, and was wrong and offensive to you and you're never gona watch porn from that director again.
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It's great that Mindbender takes a stand against misogyny on the internet, it's just pity this creepy hypocrite doesn't practice it in real life when he's taking advantage of struggling college students/single mothers/drug addicts in the amateur porn he's paid $20 to film.

Also, didn't Req say that Mindbender goes out wearing sweatpants so he can rub his dick up against random girls he knows in the street as they're exchanging pleasantries?

Mindbender def gonna be up on a sexual assault charge sometime before 2015, imho.

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EMCEE DARTH MALEK wrote:
the woman's consent is literally the only thing that matters.
what about bronson's consent? nobody here thought to ask if he's ok with it?? SMH misandrists
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Comedy Quaddafi wrote:LOL so the girl in question doesn't actually care. The writer is just outraged on her behalf and exploting the clip/situation to write a shitty column and pick up a paycheck at the end of the day. I understand that many media-outlets want women to blog for them but the quality of journalism is suffering tremendously from this "dear diary..."-stuff.
It would have been nice if someone tried to contact me first to see how i felt about what happened before writing about how i was 'sexually assaulted' . And though i agree with the problems of consent and im sure a bunch of idiot dudes had a lotta dumb shit to say about the show, if he would have asked i would have consented and if i felt that uncomfortable on stage i would have left. Or bitched about it myself. Just moving here froom mtl i went to that show alone and had a better time than most people there. It wasnt like after his set he kicked me out like a disposable prop. I was having a good
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Lol Bender just got exposed for trying to make a name for himself off of the action bronson brand

Bender you are nothing but an opportunist leech. Just like you leeched off of your brother's vastly superior talent while you were in SBU.

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Mindbender Futurama wrote:nice of you to ignore the part where her and i come to an understanding, and when she gives me a lot of respect.

very wise of you to ignore that, if you want to try and discredit me and the truth i speak. but it still exists. just lurking there in the background. waiting to expose the ignorance abounding.

and there is ANOTHER point you are COMPLETELY MISSING: IF A WOMAN IS INTO LITERALLY BEING RAPED IN PUBLIC, THAT IS HER CHOICE. BUT THERE IS SOME LEVEL OF RESPONSIBILITY TO HER AND HER RAPIST REGARDING THE IMPACT OF THE WITNESSES OF HER BEING RAPED.

So she didn't mind. That's "cool" she was cool Action Bronson surprise-groping her on stage and manhandling her tits then tossing her away like she's worthless. If that's her fetish, then it was her lucky fucking day.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN I HAVE TO LIKE SEEING THAT SHIT, MOTHERFUCKER. AND I HAVE EVERY GOD DAMN RIGHT TO SAY 'THAT IS SOME FUCKED UP SHIT, Y'ALL' IF I WANT TO. AND I WANTED TO. SO I DID.

thus: SLOW ROASTED TORTURE. thank you for listening. yeah it sounds kinda fucked up. but i don't care. nobody cared about anything in that situation. i thought it was fitting to make it sound abusive.

and don't complain about a woman who writes a review of that concert and makes note of her opinion of said act of debauchery. she talks a lot about being a legitimate Danny Brown fan too, and how he was not supposed to be at the show. it's not a fluff piece, it's actually decently researched and laid out. She even shares tweets from multiple perspectives. And why should a woman, much less anyone, try to be objective about a sexual assault at a concert? When that girl was raped at the Keith Urban concert or whoever that guy was, why should a news report minimize the horror of the atrocity? In some girl's REAL 'dear diary', she WILL write "I was raped (or sexually assaulted) at a concert tonight, WTF". That is newsworthy, and also worthy of justice.

long story short:
I don't fuck with no Action Bronson until he changes his ways. SHIT IS DISGUSTING, B

OUT OF CONTROL :clay:
So you complain about seeing a girl willingly get groped on stage, yet you think it's ok for other people's kids to see your dick when you expose yourself in public. Makes a lot of sense...

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Let Jaz Down wrote:It's great that Mindbender takes a stand against misogyny on the internet, it's just pity this creepy hypocrite doesn't practice it in real life when he's taking advantage of struggling college students/single mothers/drug addicts in the amateur porn he's paid $20 to film.

Also, didn't Req say that Mindbender goes out wearing sweatpants so he can rub his dick up against random girls he knows in the street as they're exchanging pleasantries?

Mindbender def gonna be up on a sexual assault charge sometime before 2015, imho.
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Mindbender Futurama wrote: i don't care if she liked it, I DIDN'T
Who the fuck are you, though?

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"the woman's consent is literally the only thing that matters."

I dig this sentiment, but she didn't really give her consent. Bronson made a gamble that could have gone very wrong, but luckily for him this woman simply didn't care. Oddly enough, the shit that's going on with Ray Rice at the moment has me thinking more about this. The whole "If she doesn't care then why should you" argument could also apply to the woman he knocked out in the elevator. She went onto marry him a month later. If she's cool with it, why is everyone else so up in arms? Haha. Well...it's worth being up in arms about it, no? Even if the woman is cool with it enough to still marry the guy.
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Xaula Zany wrote:"the woman's consent is literally the only thing that matters."

I dig this sentiment, but she didn't really give her consent. Bronson made a gamble that could have gone very wrong, but luckily for him this woman simply didn't care. Oddly enough, the shit that's going on with Ray Rice at the moment has me thinking more about this. The whole "If she doesn't care then why should you" argument could also apply to the woman he knocked out in the elevator. She went onto marry him a month later. If she's cool with it, why is everyone else so up in arms? Haha. Well...it's worth being up in arms about it, no? Even if the woman is cool with it enough to still marry the guy.

There was monetary motivations behind all that though. With AB, the chick just wanted a little fame. That shit happens at most shows like that and in the dozens, if not more. It's just that what happened with Action was filmed and was covered by a fellow rapper/journalist who isn't that fond of the guy to begin with.

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You forgot to mention that this is why New York hip-hop is in the gutter.

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Versive wrote:You forgot to mention that this is why New York hip-hop is in the gutter.
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Xaula Zany wrote:"the woman's consent is literally the only thing that matters."

I dig this sentiment, but she didn't really give her consent. Bronson made a gamble that could have gone very wrong, but luckily for him this woman simply didn't care. Oddly enough, the shit that's going on with Ray Rice at the moment has me thinking more about this. The whole "If she doesn't care then why should you" argument could also apply to the woman he knocked out in the elevator. She went onto marry him a month later. If she's cool with it, why is everyone else so up in arms? Haha. Well...it's worth being up in arms about it, no? Even if the woman is cool with it enough to still marry the guy.

There was monetary motivations behind all that though. With AB, the chick just wanted a little fame. That shit happens at most shows like that and in the dozens, if not more. It's just that what happened with Action was filmed and was covered by a fellow rapper/journalist who isn't that fond of the guy to begin with.
Thank you, XANY. And Jason, I would be disgusted and revolted by this behavior by ANY rapper, TRUST ME. I've seen Action Bronson 5 times in concert. I'm not writing this with a grudge. This wasnt a display of consensual sexuality between two mature adults. This was a man behaving like a sexual predator and getting lucky that he's acting up against a woman who is into extremely aggressive interaction, much more so than the average lady.

And anyone with a sense of responsibility and accountability for ther actions will NOT let their actions cause damage to others around them by recklessly doing fucked up shit and giving a fuck about the consequences.

When a person gets murdered in broad daylight in front of many witnesses, do they just attend to taking care of the dead body? No. They have to deal with the psychological damage of everyone who witnessed the murder. People get traumatized and disturbed by witnessing fucked up shit. You guys saying "only her consent matters" don't comprehend that Bronson's non-consensual assault isn't acceptable public behavior. If someone just came up to your girl and started yanking her tits without her permission, would you be cool with that? OH, but if he's on stage rapping while he does it, then it's "more cool"? :roll:

Ninjas be fucked up spiritually, B

Fuck this sociopathic sexist savagery. AB is lucky she didn't punch him directly in his face. He deserved it.
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I have a renewed respect for action bronson after this whole ordeal

It's pretty God damn absurd to think about how mindbender is more focused on this manufactured action bronson "incident" than helping his brother.

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If Action Bronson brought MB up on stage and grabbed his dick and shook it around, MB would be appalled at anyone complaining and would write 1,000 words about how we need to work harder to achieve his level of love and openness if we ever expect to be gods of love or something and he'd say it with a caterpillar hat on his head.

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Mindbender Futurama wrote:
Philaflava wrote:
Xaula Zany wrote:"the woman's consent is literally the only thing that matters."

I dig this sentiment, but she didn't really give her consent. Bronson made a gamble that could have gone very wrong, but luckily for him this woman simply didn't care. Oddly enough, the shit that's going on with Ray Rice at the moment has me thinking more about this. The whole "If she doesn't care then why should you" argument could also apply to the woman he knocked out in the elevator. She went onto marry him a month later. If she's cool with it, why is everyone else so up in arms? Haha. Well...it's worth being up in arms about it, no? Even if the woman is cool with it enough to still marry the guy.

There was monetary motivations behind all that though. With AB, the chick just wanted a little fame. That shit happens at most shows like that and in the dozens, if not more. It's just that what happened with Action was filmed and was covered by a fellow rapper/journalist who isn't that fond of the guy to begin with.
Thank you, XANY. And Jason, I would be disgusted and revolted by this behavior by ANY rapper, TRUST ME. I've seen Action Bronson 5 times in concert. I'm not writing this with a grudge. This wasnt a display of consensual sexuality between two mature adults. This was a man behaving like a sexual predator and getting lucky that he's acting up against a woman who is into extremely aggressive interaction, much more so than the average lady.

And anyone with a sense of responsibility and accountability for ther actions will NOT let their actions cause damage to others around them by recklessly doing fucked up shit and giving a fuck about the consequences.

When a person gets murdered in broad daylight in front of many witnesses, do they just attend to taking care of the dead body? No. They have to deal with the psychological damage of everyone who witnessed the murder. People get traumatized and disturbed by witnessing fucked up shit. You guys saying "only her consent matters" don't comprehend that Bronson's non-consensual assault isn't acceptable public behavior. If someone just came up to your girl and started yanking her tits without her permission, would you be cool with that? OH, but if he's on stage rapping while he does it, then it's "more cool"? :roll:

Ninjas be fucked up spiritually, B

Fuck this sociopathic sexist savagery. AB is lucky she didn't punch him directly in his face. He deserved it.
I have a difficult time seeing you react in such a way had it been Luke. I'm not implying the racial double-standards, but I do think your disinterest in Action has a lot to do with it. This is what I would expect by a person who is such character like Action at his shows. The same way he has no reservation of tossing a fan off stage or body slamming another. This is who he is, a crude, fun-fat-frat boy appealing rapper who just happens to remind a lot of us of Ghostface with an exorbitant of charisma.

What he did is nothing that probably hasn't been done at many of his shows. It's just that this was filmed and you wrote about it. The woman in the video practically begged for this attention. If we're being completely honest here, I think your aversion to him as a rapper, maybe because you don't find him talented or original plays a role. That and the fact he has really achieved success with what you would consider little work and paid dues.

EDIT: You have gone to great lengths to praise Necro and RA The Rugged Man. Isn't he among one of your favorites? I think Necro has done stuff way worse than what this video showed AB doing.

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i've been to necro shows. he does that times 1000

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Mindbender Futurama wrote:
Versive wrote:You forgot to mention that this is why New York hip-hop is in the gutter.
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Not really at all though.

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The idea that he took the risk and acted like a sexual predator with a women who luckily turned out to be into it is a fallacy. He didn't walk up to any woman on the street and grab a titty. He grabbed the titty of a woman who was at his show, came up on stage, allowed him to pick her up and out her over his shoulder. When he grabbed her titty, she clearly starts grinding her ass into his groinal region, which I generally take as a non verbal sign of consent that my advances are accepted.

Not saying much beyond that, but just wanting to make that point alone. He shot at a fish in a barrel, not a fish in the entire ocean.

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Mindbender's opinions on rap from the last 10 years are generally pretty terrible. He's mentioned numerous times he isn't that interested in modern artists/releases but still feels the need to come with an ill informed opinion very now and then, usually based around some non-music related shit an artist has got involved in.

He wont tell you he likes the bassline on track 3 on the new G Unit EP (for example) but he'll get proper amped about some 50 Cent interview or dude not attending his son's graduation as if it really matters.
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I'm sure it has nothing to do with Bender not liking Action Bronson...
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Mindbender Futurama wrote:the new jacks care more about A$AP Ferg, Bobby Shmurda and Action Bronson than anyone with the integrity of a Cormega, Styles P or Saigon, much less Rakim.
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Myjah wrote:I just don't take most of the misogynistic rap out there seriously. Just like I don't take a lot of the kill/rob/etc. rap lines out there seriously.

I do have a problem when rappers act too serious or ignorant when being misogynistic. The recent example that comes to mind is Action Bronson. I can't tell if his misogyny is an act or not, because he seems really earnest about a lot of the misogynistic things on his twitter feed and a lot of it isn't super overt, more like underlying shit. It's too bad because I like his music, just never listen to him because I find his personality/misogyny (all over his twitter feed and less in his music, curiously) really fucking off-putting.

That coming from a girl who loves 2 live crew.
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ackbar wrote:i've been to necro shows. he does that times 1000
I've seen Necro 3 times.
Yes it gets wild and crazy.
But when I saw Necro last time, there was a 16 year old white girl that was naked except some tiny panties, and her tiny little prepubescent titties were jangling all over the stage in front of everyone moshing and jamming and wyling.
But when some neanderthal monster pig wanted to grope up her, I saw Necrodamus come over and protect that little girl's innocence and purity like a protective father with some very liberal views on sexuality. The first show was pretty fucking lawless and debauched, but by the third Necro show, I was seeing Necro allowing madness and sexual chaos and nudity and dancing and wildness... BUT THERE WAS A LIMIT. Like there always is in life. Some savages just don't care about the line not to cross. And as i said: I was cool with Action Bronson rapping with the girl over the shoulders, that was fine. As soon as he grabbed her, I was offended. I don't give a fuck if she wasn't. Well, I DO, but I also am saying "it's not just about HER, it's about ALL of us." And I'm speaking with a level of responsibility that maybe some of you savage selfish sick fucks can't comprehend. But yeah, I'm hoping when I go to a rap show, I hope and wish and pray for EVERYONE IN THE VENUE to NOT be assaulted: visually, verbally, sexually or spiritually. I don't always get my way :bunk:

At Necro, the girls are called up consensually, and take their clothes off with their own intention. This girls breast during Action Bronson was not intended to be part of the show, and even she said she was shocked by it, initially, in her reply to me. She may have gotten into it, but I have a right to be disgusted by both of them. And I was. And I wrote a song about it. And moved on. I'm speaking from the outrage I had about it THEN. I don't care about this like I care about other issues happening today. But I remember how repulsed and disgusted I felt at everyone in the audience and at Action Bronson, and even the girl to a degree.

I've seen RA the Rugged Man like 10 times. Girls go extreme wild, but nobody is abused, molested or treated like a human bag of garbage. There is a fine line between crazy and offensive. A smart artist knows it. I go wild at shows and have even kissed girls and dirty danced with girls while I'm rapping, but I never offend anyone's fucking dignity as a human being, which is what AB did, in my eyes. Fuck that noize forever.

Jason, you need to fucking STOP acting like I'm "jealous" of these fucking MCs because "they are successful". I don't give a shitting pissing fucking rat's cunt or ass about money and fame if you have to be a PIECE OF SHIT SCUMLORDIAN DOUCHEBAG to get it. I'd rather stay right where I am, having sex every day and making music for the particular audience of mine that loves my work, than be a degenerate piece of sexist fraudulent fuckory, and get popular on the internet and in the world for being a fucking abusive sack of shit. I ain't down with these Ray Rice rap motherfuckers, mang. I want to meet Eminem, sure... but if there is any time, I'd honestly like to talk to Marshall Mathers about why he's so fucking misogynistic and savage to women. And how I think it's hella fucked up. (But I think Eminem is a closeted bi-sexual, so I know my own answer. I'd still ask him :naswtf: )

Julius, yes you have a point, but also, the breast grabbing was a surprise and totally unconsensual, by any standards. Everything else was to be expected, as it were.
And I don't give a fuck: I was revolted by what I saw. I don't care what you guys feel, and if you think it's okay.
In the context of the evening, the audience, the atmosphere and the energy, I was fucking appalled and disgusted by his behaviour. So I wrote a song about it. And moved the fuck on...

I don't respect ANY MC's perspective on women. Except maybe Rakim, and possibly like 3 others... IN ALL OF HIP HOP CULTURE. :bunk:

Most of you guys treat women like second-class citizens. It's fucking disgusting and I do not respect or relate to any of you who do such things. I don't give a fuck if you are Dr. Dre, Jay-Z or some nameless faceless fuck on Philaflava. Y'all don't treat women like equals, so I don't respect your values, choices, behavior or philosophy in life. Go ahead and jam to your Action Bronson and keep making society worse. Bring your girlfriend to the next Action Bronson show, maybe it will be HER lucky day next time and you can watch your lady get her tit molested and then have her body throw to the side of the stage like lukewarm garbage :copy:
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No one is reading all that bullshit



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Mindbender Futurama wrote:
ackbar wrote:i've been to necro shows. he does that times 1000
I've seen Necro 3 times.
Yes it gets wild and crazy.
But when I saw Necro last time, there was a 16 year old white girl that was naked except some tiny panties, and her tiny little prepubescent titties were jangling all over the stage in front of everyone moshing and jamming and wyling.
But when some neanderthal monster pig wanted to grope up her, I saw Necrodamus come over and protect that little girl's innocence and purity like a protective father with some very liberal views on sexuality. The first show was pretty fucking lawless and debauched, but by the third Necro show, I was seeing Necro allowing madness and sexual chaos and nudity and dancing and wildness... BUT THERE WAS A LIMIT. Like there always is in life. Some savages just don't care about the line not to cross. And as i said: I was cool with Action Bronson rapping with the girl over the shoulders, that was fine. As soon as he grabbed her, I was offended. I don't give a fuck if she wasn't. Well, I DO, but I also am saying "it's not just about HER, it's about ALL of us." And I'm speaking with a level of responsibility that maybe some of you savage selfish sick fucks can't comprehend. But yeah, I'm hoping when I go to a rap show, I hope and wish and pray for EVERYONE IN THE VENUE to NOT be assaulted: visually, verbally, sexually or spiritually. I don't always get my way :bunk:

At Necro, the girls are called up consensually, and take their clothes off with their own intention. This girls breast during Action Bronson was not intended to be part of the show, and even she said she was shocked by it, initially, in her reply to me. She may have gotten into it, but I have a right to be disgusted by both of them. And I was. And I wrote a song about it. And moved on. I'm speaking from the outrage I had about it THEN. I don't care about this like I care about other issues happening today. But I remember how repulsed and disgusted I felt at everyone in the audience and at Action Bronson, and even the girl to a degree.

I've seen RA the Rugged Man like 10 times. Girls go extreme wild, but nobody is abused, molested or treated like a human bag of garbage. There is a fine line between crazy and offensive. A smart artist knows it. I go wild at shows and have even kissed girls and dirty danced with girls while I'm rapping, but I never offend anyone's fucking dignity as a human being, which is what AB did, in my eyes. Fuck that noize forever.

Jason, you need to fucking STOP acting like I'm "jealous" of these fucking MCs because "they are successful". I don't give a shitting pissing fucking rat's cunt or ass about money and fame if you have to be a PIECE OF SHIT SCUMLORDIAN DOUCHEBAG to get it. I'd rather stay right where I am, having sex every day and making music for the particular audience of mine that loves my work, than be a degenerate piece of sexist fraudulent fuckory, and get popular on the internet and in the world for being a fucking abusive sack of shit. I ain't down with these Ray Rice rap motherfuckers, mang. I want to meet Eminem, sure... but if there is any time, I'd honestly like to talk to Marshall Mathers about why he's so fucking misogynistic and savage to women. And how I think it's hella fucked up. (But I think Eminem is a closeted bi-sexual, so I know my own answer. I'd still ask him :naswtf: )

Julius, yes you have a point, but also, the breast grabbing was a surprise and totally unconsensual, by any standards. Everything else was to be expected, as it were.
And I don't give a fuck: I was revolted by what I saw. I don't care what you guys feel, and if you think it's okay.
In the context of the evening, the audience, the atmosphere and the energy, I was fucking appalled and disgusted by his behaviour. So I wrote a song about it. And moved the fuck on...

I don't respect ANY MC's perspective on women. Except maybe Rakim, and possibly like 3 others... IN ALL OF HIP HOP CULTURE. :bunk:

Most of you guys treat women like second-class citizens. It's fucking disgusting and I do not respect or relate to any of you who do such things. I don't give a fuck if you are Dr. Dre, Jay-Z or some nameless faceless fuck on Philaflava. Y'all don't treat women like equals, so I don't respect your values, choices, behavior or philosophy in life. Go ahead and jam to your Action Bronson and keep making society worse. Bring your girlfriend to the next Action Bronson show, maybe it will be HER lucky day next time and you can watch your lady get her tit molested and then have her body throw to the side of the stage like lukewarm garbage :copy:
serious question: are you gay? Being this preoccupied with women's rights is really effeminate...

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The only people Mindbender hates more than women (because his mother neglected him, and girls didn't even notice he existed until he got Conspiracy addicted to drugs and sent him packing to Edmonton) are rappers who've been successful in the last decade.

Imagine being Mindbender: rapping for 25+ years and you can't even headline a show in Toronto and everyone hates your music, while someone like Action Bronson has been rapping for 5 or 6 years and now he has a career touring the world and doing songs like LL Cool J. You'd probably eat yourself alive with jealousy too.

It's also very suspect that Starvin Martian is so upset about AB and this girl, but doesn't mind when Ghostface & Sun God dry-hump the girls who get up onstage to shake their asses for them, which has been happening at every Ghost show since about 2006 now.

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Let Jaz Down wrote:The only people Mindbender hates more than women (because his mother neglected him, and girls didn't even notice he existed until he got Conspiracy addicted to drugs and sent him packing to Edmonton) are rappers who've been successful in the last decade.

Imagine being Mindbender: rapping for 25+ years and you can't even headline a show in Toronto and everyone hates your music, while someone like Action Bronson has been rapping for 5 or 6 years and now he has a career touring the world and doing songs like LL Cool J. You'd probably eat yourself alive with jealousy too.

It's also very suspect that Starvin Martian is so upset about AB and this girl, but doesn't mind when Ghostface & Sun God dry-hump the girls who get up onstage to shake their asses for them, which has been happening at every Ghost show since about 2006 now.
Also, lol at MB saying in his action bronson "diss" that "ghost isnt on some wildflower shit anymore", in an attempt to paint a picture that ghost is all righteous and shit now. Apparently he never saw ghost on that couples rehab reality show on VH1....

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So, in summary this is yet another thread where Mindbender has proved himself to be a jealous moronic hypocrite as well as a creepy misogynist.

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still waiting for mature, intelligent discussion to reply to :fail:

sexual rights are human rights. one day, you savages might realize that :ohhh:

i've told the story. and just like in real life, i couldn't relate to the majority of the "men" at the show, who were cheering and celebrating this grotesque display of aggressive sexuality.

i don't give a fuck if i'm the ONLY man at a rap show that has the fucking internal integrity to speak out against something he sees that he is uncomfortable seeing. i will be that man, and i will always be the fucking man that speaks his mind against sexism, racism, classism, or stupidism :bunny:

some of you haters have nothing without your hate for me. congradufuckinlations for behaving like an unflushable piece of shit :hooray:

i got a few women to make love to today. seriously, more than one. i don't care what you sexist brutes have to say about my sexuality. if you are complaining about me and my work in defending women's aka human's rights, then i KNOW i'm doing something good :ignore:
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if she consents, that's all that really matters.

how about a man who feels pornography is abusive & oppressive to women? he may feel that even though the woman consents to the act, there is a responsibility to not release that type of material, that they deem misogynistic, into the world. i would guess that you would argue that women can empower themselves through pornography, it's ultimately her choice & that a man's opinion on what this woman chooses to participate in is moot? if the woman on stage with bronson was a willing participant, we're talking about similar scenarios. it's a backwards slut shame (albeit with good intentions).

the part of the story that's up for debate is whether or not she did in fact provide consent. i would agree with julius that her actions, did constitute non-verbal consent. and her subsequent discussion of the incident confirms that. it can be a slippery slope when you conduct yourself in that manner, but the bottom line is the woman willingly & eagerly joined action bronson on stage to dance & rub her body on him and this incident would never even make it to court as a sexual assault case given the particular circumstances

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