The MarQ Spekt Thread

Sebastion Shaw · Post by **Sebastion Shaw** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:16 pm

been soaking this up....... COOLEHMAGAZINE is feeling all of the raw loud in your face tracks..... I love TOP BACK, but I like the Devil, and the down tempo joints like Opium Den.The lyrics on WikiLeaks is fucking bananas!!!!

I think the weakest song on there after listening to the whole album is Roadhouse.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:23 pm

^^ agreed, I think that one and Danger are both at the bottom of the list for me. both have a school of shark-ish feel to them, which isn't necessarily bad in of itself but at best points of the album Spekt goes far beyond that level

COOLEHMAGAZINE · Post by **COOLEHMAGAZINE** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:37 pm

The Devil is great, yeah.

Opium Den is cool, not my favorite but a nice beat and Spekt did right by it.

Royal Peasants and Aquamarine are good songs they just aren't doing it for me personally. He still did his thing.

Danger is yet another reminder that I don't really "get" Meyhem Lauren. Dude is whatever to me.

Need to live with it a bit obviously, but it's a short record so I have already listened to it four times through. Quality album.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't hoping for an Invizzibl Men feature but I can see why Spekt might have wanted to go a different direction. Of his solo work, I think this is his most complete project. It might be better than The Unveiling, just too early for me to really say though. I'm one of the few Karniege fans out of my co-workers but I really liked how they worked as a duo.

unclebengi · Post by **unclebengi** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:05 pm

I have to relisten after work (I've made it through a few times), but good to see people are feeling different shit. I'd say Top Back, Roadhouse, and All Smiles are the best all around tracks. Kno and Spekt both destroy all of those tracks.

I thought The Royal Peasants was the best song lyrically and might have the most replay value for me (jewelz dropped), the last verse is

I gotta relisten to Wikileaks and The Devil, they didn't particularly stand out last night, but there wasn't anything that didn't sound dope. I can't say this is definitively better than Pretty Weapons and The Unveiling at this point, but it's at least just as good. I miss some of the off-the-wall creative style he showed on tracks like Armor Truck Rap and Frontier Province and he seems to be more focused on flow and rhyme scheme this time around. That will probably change with multiple listens though, it takes a while to catch all his lines.

Spekt's already tweeting about future projects, so hopefully he's entering a prolific period of his career.

Sebastion Shaw · Post by **Sebastion Shaw** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:12 pm

Thats another thing. There's more range on here than anything. There is something for damn near anyone.

Drizzle- I like Danger alot. I think the magic of Kno's beats and the way spekt penned to em is that theyre geared towards emotion and how you feel. I like Aquamarine alot last night. Today I love the Devil. It's still early but I gotta sit with it more.

COOLEHMAGAZINE · Post by **COOLEHMAGAZINE** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:43 pm

unclebengi wrote:I have to relisten after work (I've made it through a few times), but good to see people are feeling different shit. I'd say Top Back, Roadhouse, and All Smiles are the best all around tracks. Kno and Spekt both destroy all of those tracks.

I thought The Royal Peasants was the best song lyrically and might have the most replay value for me (jewelz dropped), the last verse is

I gotta relisten to Wikileaks and The Devil, they didn't particularly stand out last night, but there wasn't anything that didn't sound dope.

I can't say this is definitively better than Pretty Weapons and The Unveiling at this point, but it's at least just as good. I miss some of the off-the-wall creative style he showed on tracks like Armor Truck Rap and Frontier Province and he seems to be more focused on flow and rhyme scheme this time around. That will probably change with multiple listens though, I takes a while to catch all his lines.

Spekt's already tweeting about future projects, so hopefully he's entering a prolific period of his career.

Off the production alone, this is better than Pretty Weapons IMO.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:52 pm

oh yea bigtime

i don't really share the same hardon for kno's beats that a lot of you guys have, don't hate him by any means just don't like him as much, but he def did really well here

unclebengi · Post by **unclebengi** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:13 pm

COOLEHMAGAZINE wrote:Off the production alone, this is better than Pretty Weapons IMO.

I guess I could agree with that, I know you like the Invizzibl Men album a lot more than Pretty Weapons (I like Pretty Weapons slightly more). Pretty Weapons is still has a lot of value to me though...no MC has ever sounded like that before. The songs have a cartoon-like visual quality that help make up for the hit or miss production.

Machete Vision also seems like an EP when you compare it to Pretty Weapons. Machete Vision is a lot slicker and more veteran style though. As an album, it would definitely be the one I would recommend to a prospective Spekt listener, I just can't call it the one I enjoy the most at this point.

Also, after another spin, I can say The Devil is the one song I'm starting to not like. I guess his verses are ok...but the beat is the one beat that sounds like something Kno would make for the CunninLynguists and not something he crafted for Spekt, plus the hook is pretty corny.

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:15 pm

It's tough for me to pick a favorite. As far as lyrics go, Royal Peasants is pretty unfuckwitable.

The title track and Top Back are totally out of control, vintage no-nonsense Spekt. All Smiles, The Devil and Wikileaks are on the other end of that spectrum. Pretty Weaponry evinced both styles, but this is definitely more complete and well-crafted as far as the overall presentation is concerned.

The posse cut is vicious.

Basically if you sleep on this album your opinion is null and void.

unclebengi · Post by **unclebengi** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:26 pm

Versive wrote:The posse cut is vicious.

Who's this cat F.T.? You mentioned him before and this was the first I've heard him...thought his verse was 2nd best behind Spekt's ("Chains swinging like the God of War").

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:32 pm

COOLEHMAGAZINE · Post by **COOLEHMAGAZINE** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:37 pm

unclebengi wrote:
Versive wrote:The posse cut is vicious.
Who's this cat F.T.? You mentioned him before and this was the first I've heard him...thought his verse was 2nd best behind Spekt's ("Chains swinging like the God of War").

"Don't Trust Anyone" is the correct answer.

unclebengi · Post by **unclebengi** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:45 pm

OK, I've have the Metal Thangz (rmx) on that Premier album, but that's probably the only other time I've heard him. So he was in a group Street Smartz or something?

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:55 pm

Street Smartz is him and a DJ.

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Sebastion Shaw · Post by **Sebastion Shaw** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:05 pm

F.T is an unheralded legend.....cosign. I wasnt ever a big Meyhem Lauren fan, but this is one of his best verses. I love the energy of Danger all around. Great posse cut!

zombie · Post by **zombie** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:45 pm

like it

COOLEHMAGAZINE · Post by **COOLEHMAGAZINE** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:04 pm

Is this Kno's first full-length collaboration with a non-CL rapper? I don't know a whole lot about dude.

Hair of the Dog · Post by **Hair of the Dog** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:11 pm

COOLEHMAGAZINE wrote:Is this Kno's first full-length collaboration with a non-CL rapper? I don't know a whole lot about dude.

I think so. He has been planning an album with Tonedeff for years and it finally has a release date this December.

Sebastion Shaw · Post by **Sebastion Shaw** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:54 pm

let it sit for the day......came back and just listened again...This shit gets better with new listens. I fuck wit Spekt but I didnt think he was all the way capable of some of these styles.....that second verse on Royal Peasants is>>>>>>

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:12 pm

so this is stream only right now?

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:14 pm

no you can buy it for 6$

but i'm pretty sure it leaked too

SYM · Post by **SYM** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:28 pm

Hair of the Dog wrote:
COOLEHMAGAZINE wrote:Is this Kno's first full-length collaboration with a non-CL rapper? I don't know a whole lot about dude.
I think so. He has been planning an album with Tonedeff for years and it finally has a release date this December.

i coulda sworn he had an album with witchdoctor out already, or maybe that got put on the backburner?

unclebengi · Post by **unclebengi** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:37 pm

Sebastion Shaw wrote:that second verse on Royal Peasants is>>>>>>

Yeah, he hits you will the ill wordplay and jewelz on the first verse and then zones out on the second verse all on the same rhyme scheme.

The work he put into his lyrics on several of these songs is crazy. I'm surprised at the Roadhouse backlash...maybe because it's been out so long? I mean the whole first verse is ill with the NY State Of Mind rhyme scheme and the second is one of my favorites on the album, it's a great example of the cartoon/visual style that I'm a fan of. Bronson kills the hook too.

I was trying to hold off on calling this his best all around work, but with each listen it becomes more clear. They've gotta make a followup to this bad boy.

zombie · Post by **zombie** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:27 pm

SYM wrote:
Hair of the Dog wrote:
COOLEHMAGAZINE wrote:Is this Kno's first full-length collaboration with a non-CL rapper? I don't know a whole lot about dude.
I think so. He has been planning an album with Tonedeff for years and it finally has a release date this December.

i coulda sworn he had an album with witchdoctor out already, or maybe that got put on the backburner?

somebody answer this

None · Post by **None** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:01 pm

zombie wrote:
SYM wrote:
Hair of the Dog wrote:
COOLEHMAGAZINE wrote:Is this Kno's first full-length collaboration with a non-CL rapper? I don't know a whole lot about dude.
I think so. He has been planning an album with Tonedeff for years and it finally has a release date this December.

i coulda sworn he had an album with witchdoctor out already, or maybe that got put on the backburner?
somebody answer this

He didn't do a whole album with Witchdoctor, he and Deacon produced a couple songs for his King of the Beasts ep and the Adult Swim album he did.

hellriser · Post by **hellriser** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:13 am

i like this...... better than cunin last album

COOLEHMAGAZINE · Post by **COOLEHMAGAZINE** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:55 pm

The fact that this is so short would make it perfect for vinyl. The sound would be perfect without needing a double LP. Not to mention that cover.

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:33 pm

COOLEHMAGAZINE wrote:The fact that this is so short would make it perfect for vinyl. The sound would be perfect without needing a double LP. Not to mention that cover.

Agreed.

Stikone · Post by **Stikone** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:25 am

Kno wrote:Vinyl in this market/economy makes zero fiscal sense for a project this size. Weגd be paying around $10-15 per unit just in pressing costs, plus there are barely any U.S. pressing plants that will deal in sample-based music so you have to press overseas and then the shipping costs of those HEAVY boxes goes through the roof.

Then youגre also paying for artwork layout for a vinyl format, re-mastering for a vinyl format (you canגt use a standard CD master for vinyl because of the fidelity).

Weגd need to charge like $30 per unitגnevermind the headaches involvedגjust to recoup and although SOME people might pay that, not more than a handful. Ainגt happening, player. Even CunninLynguistsג vinyl only happens when we have 3rd party investors funding itגbut even then people complain because the shit ends up costing around $40-60 dollars for the reasons listed above & the investor needing to make a profit.

The Stones Throwsג and Rhymesayersג of the game can afford to throw money at collector-only material like that, but unfortunately we canגt.

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:46 pm

Fair enough.