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it's dope. "collapse and appear" is a highlight for me but there's a lot of good stuff on here. need to listen to it a few more times
it'll definitely go over more with fans of rappers like el-p than rappers like skinny pimp.. but it's not like LUM has ever been anything but a white art kid making underground rap anyways

"grave within a grave" as well

i think his voice sounds a little ras kass tbh

album is very good - dig it alot..... last track is crazy

Shit's weird af. He gave the best he ever wrote to a computer.
I fuck with it obviously

eh I don't know.

the updated memphis underground white guy devil shit was much better than this.

I feel like I'm listening to some average def jux/anticon wannabe shit from 2001.

It has its moments, but it's kind of annoying at the same time.

not that it was premeditated, but there's no way you'd get so many people's attention for an album like this without actually putting out some decent music prior.

I think it could've been premeditated. And though it's easy to compare it to def jux/anticon, it's thematically and sonically much darker than anything either of those labels ever put out. I do get the complaint that it's essentially a hampton roads suburbanite whining that life is bullshit and rap sucks...if anyone has said that yet.

he might be somewhat, but there's proof of him being involved with artsier people and other musical styles.
i think dude probably spent more time with squatters than chilling in cul de sacs.

i just noticed that the epitaph on the cover of "Criminal Hypnosis" says RIP HMAN RAP GAME on it, which considering that
came out before MTI, the switch up was definitely in the works.

also, reading Clowns N Browns and seeing the original art piece that the Playaz Circle album cover derived from (tied up naked white dude to a door with his dick hanging out, and a person on the floor tied up) goes to show that even though that album was all about portraying a gangster rapping skeleton, or something, he was also on some weird art shit at the time.

i wish i could remember the name of that one outsider he quoted when he had his first attempt at a facebook exodus, when he wanted to just communicate through the mail.


either way, "Slugs" is my jam and I'm glad he made and released that.

also, at least any time he mentions his disdain for rap or music in general it just comes off way more interesting than most of these old school rappers making songs about how they hate current rap.

I just take issue with rappers taking the stance that rap is wack, and Ugly seems to go even further basically calling it a lower art form. I dig this album a lot. I take no issue with weirdo artsy shit at all. I even enjoy his work as Sex of Difference. Dude just come across like an asshole, if this is his grand artistic statement, sold for over $100. I aint buying this shit.

Listened to it a bunch over the weekend, and it's definitely good after you get passed the initial wtf moment.

If you're going to look at it objectively, his rapping is much better when he's being himself than when he's rapping in the role of some fictitious three six mafia affiliate. Even though that whole steeze is way more fun to me as a listener and something that I can bump on the regular, as opposed to this weird/moody stuff which demands more attention.

if you take it face value, shit is really tight. It takes me back to that Fantastic Damage type production that's really noisy, dense and dark, which is probably my favorite production style of all time. So in that regard, this shit is better to me both production and rapping-wise than anything El has done since ISWYD.

And I really don't hear any disdain towards rap in his shit. To me, his message is "it's just music/art, stop taking yourselves so seriously."

Versive wrote:if this is his grand artistic statement, sold for over $100. I aint buying this shit.

hah. the album is "name your own price" and is even streaming on bandcamp and on his soundcloud.

all his previous work has been "name your own price" or free, except for that Dale Krueger and the Missing Felicitys Thug Isolation Suite single he jokingly
had listed for $300 for a few months back in 2012.

he even once shouted out youtube user TrillPhonk for uploading his music to youtube the same day he released it. ugly didn't care.

the high priced box set isn't really high priced considering the DIY work put into it, but also that encompasses more than just the final album.
the consumer is paying for reissues on vinyl and cassette, too.

i didn't buy the box set, i didn't mess with the ebay pre-orders that went over $1000. that's just other people in society.
i'm sure even ugly mane wouldn't blow money on his favorite artist like that, either.

people talk about how vinyl sales are doing so well nowadays, but i think the majority of vinyl buyers are just collecters.

interesting though is how overly social Ugly has been on facebook updating photos of their shipping process, which looks insane.

DLG wrote:
And I really don't hear any disdain towards rap in his shit. To me, his message is "it's just music/art, stop taking yourselves so seriously."

which is way better than rapping about rap, as rappers have done.

the box set isn't expensive at all for four LPs and four cassettes.
i also don't think the themes are any darker than music released on anticon/def jux. there's lots of songs on those labels about depression, addiction, death, love, etc.

reading comments on social media, it seems like most LUM fans haven't heard much other rap

isn't there a line on here to the effect of: "of course i'm the best rapper alive, i'm a giant, all other rappers are midgets, hip-hop is not art, it's bullshit"? Obviously I'm paraphrasing but he said something like that, which got my panties in a bunch.

I downloaded it name your price and like i said, I love the album.

He also says, at some point, "sex has never given me an ounce of satisfaction," which pretty fucking dark, though I'll admit I'm not familiar with the lyrics of most Anticon artists.

If I had the money to throw around, I'd buy the box set. Album's great, because it makes me angry, sad and happy. My emotions are a whirlwind. Thank you Lil Ugly Mane. I'll gladly join your death cult.

DLG wrote:reading comments on social media, it seems like most LUM fans haven't heard much other rap

Not the least bit surprised and that's probably how he likes it.

Can we talk about how dope the computer-voice verse is?

Pretty cool album. "Slugs" and "Grave Within A Grave" stand out immediately amongst others. Those noise interludes broke my ears

Lil Ugly Mane, Antwon, Wiki - Get It (prod. Shawn Kemp)

https://soundcloud.com/user-923145623/get-it-secret-circle-teaser

LUM went in

more of this shit needs to go down.

that was dope.

Wiki is whatever to me but LUM and Antwon has always been a great combo

https://soundcloud.com/user-923145623/get-it-secret-circle-teaser

thanks bro

New LUM remix at 8.23:
https://soundcloud.com/hotfire_la/hotfire-episode-13

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he remixed some music from some group juiceboxxx put out. haven't heard any of this (the group, the single, the remix)

ANTWON - Amazon Wishlist - PRODUCED BY SHAWN KEMP FEATURING LIL UGLY MANE


https://soundcloud.com/officialantwon/a ... ruff-final" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think despot dropped a hint on twitter about some type of collab with SC

https://www.facebook.com/hamoneverythin ... 7777635767" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;