Unpopular Rap Opinions

Haitian Jack · Post by **Haitian Jack** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:44 am

war report is better than any mobb deep album

Combo7 · Post by **Combo7** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:48 am

"D. Original" > "Come Clean"

Lil Dap doesn't suck

Saafir - Boxcar Sessions = garbage

Missy Elliott - Da Real World = dope as fuck

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:50 am

Big Mike > Bun-B

mud · Post by **mud** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:52 am

Not unpopular on Philaflava.com, but 2Pac was nothing special.

The Predator is my favourite Ice Cube Album

Wu-Tang Forever > 36 Chambers

Life After Death is BIG's best album.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:53 am

mindbender is great at rap

mud · Post by **mud** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:55 am

cenzi wrote: - I think everyone knows that I do not rank Rakim in my top 5.

- Ghostface is just not that good. Method is the best in Wu.

- I have never been able to sit through a whole Nas or Jay Z album without saying "who the fuck actually thinks either of them GOAT statuts?"

- but then again, I consider Lynch Hung and Spice 1 two MC's that should be on that to 20 GOAT list

- Mobb Deep are the #1 overrated MC's to ever touch the mic.

I feel sorry for you're ears.

ALASKA · Post by **ALASKA** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:56 am

Combo7 wrote:Missy Elliott - Da Real World = dope as fuck

would go as far to say that she is one of, if not the most underrated rapper ever.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:58 am

ALASKA wrote:
Combo7 wrote:Missy Elliott - Da Real World = dope as fuck
would go as far to say that she is one of, if not the most underrated rapper ever.

Okay, who hacked your account?

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:59 am

ALASKA wrote:
Combo7 wrote:Missy Elliott - Da Real World = dope as fuck
would go as far to say that she is one of, if not the most underrated rapper ever.

I think she has a cool flow and I love her old school references, but let's not get carried away here.

ALASKA · Post by **ALASKA** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:00 pm

fair enough. i just think she has a lot of styles and doesnt get enough credit for that shit.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:02 pm

But she is a FEMALE rapper!

ALASKA · Post by **ALASKA** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:04 pm

Philaflava wrote:But she is a FEMALE rapper!

Mindbender Futurama · Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:31 pm

ALASKA wrote:fair enough. i just think she has a lot of styles and doesnt get enough credit for that shit.

but SUB ZERO content.

is her style really that good, that we can forget she's damn near never said a witty lyric in her life?

ALASKA · Post by **ALASKA** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:32 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote:
ALASKA wrote:fair enough. i just think she has a lot of styles and doesnt get enough credit for that shit.
but SUB ZERO content.

is her style really that good, that we can forget she's damn near never said a witty lyric in her life?

she can rap circles around you

CHANCE RANDOM · Post by **CHANCE RANDOM** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:37 pm

ALASKA wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:
ALASKA wrote:fair enough. i just think she has a lot of styles and doesnt get enough credit for that shit.
but SUB ZERO content.

is her style really that good, that we can forget she's damn near never said a witty lyric in her life?
she can rap circles around you

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:37 pm

ALASKA wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:
ALASKA wrote:fair enough. i just think she has a lot of styles and doesnt get enough credit for that shit.
but SUB ZERO content.

is her style really that good, that we can forget she's damn near never said a witty lyric in her life?
she can rap circles around you

missy elliot is so fat when she's rapping circles around mindbender she's wrapping circles around mindbender

Reason · Post by **Reason** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:38 pm

- anacron's voice is one of the most entertaining things ever. he could rap about nothing and he'd make me laugh...he should get on a sitcom as a token black guy because his voice is seriously comedy gold in a good way

- prodigy + alchemist > prodigy + havoc

- ll cool j's diss track response (forget what it was called) > canibus' 2nd round ko

- stoupe is a top 10 hip hop producer of all time

admiral · Post by **admiral** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:40 pm

Combo7 wrote:Vinnie > Treach

stop it

Tired & Broke · Post by **Tired & Broke** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:41 pm

Thread started off cool, went to shit quick.

Dids · Post by **Dids** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:41 pm

Missy herself isn't terrible. That lots of people I know (AKA WHITES) think she's a super talented and creative artist who elevates hip-hop as an art form is fucking horrible. I think 80% of what's good about anything she's been on is basically because Timbo is pretty awesome.

Of all the posse cuts featuring the same 5 guys released over the past like 3 years- I think Red Cafe's "Paper Touchin" Remix might be the best. I have no idea if this opinion is unpopular or not.

admiral · Post by **admiral** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:42 pm

Philaflava wrote:Common could make an album with Dre and Premier and I'd have no desire to listen to it. I was never a huge Common fan, though I do own most of his albums. I enjoy the earlier Common but his nasal voice always annoyed me after a few continuous tracks. Also he seems to have become the biggest douche bag ever and it has ZERO to do with his millions he's making in Hollywood. Common has become the guy he used to despise in his raps. He is just extremely unlikable these days and hasn't really made great music either.

I always thought Common's flow was terrible

Conspiracy · Post by **Conspiracy** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:53 pm

JayZ is the original nas biter

Busta Rhymes has the best speed raps

Apathy is a good commercial underground rhymer

RZA and Dr. Dre are the most eternally histrorically influential releasers in hiphop music. [WU TANG and AFTERMATH/G-Unit involvements]

mathematik, marvel, and Prevail 1 ARE seriously super canadian stylists/MC

Supernatural has the most important solo album in the eastcoast, "NATURAL DISASTERS".

my top 5
-Naptron
-PMD
-Abstract Rude
-DOOM
-Copywrite

and bonus faves-cage and camu tao [love]
*people ALWAYS dis these guys cuz they are aging quality well accomplishing awesome art.*

El-P of Def Jux has the best space beats. then Al-T of Alien Nation.

Cannibal Ox sucks, but are cool guys. If they didn't have 'the cold vein' beats?.....they'd be nowhere

DJ Khaled can organize a good collaboration song

Snoop Dog's show "Doggy After Midnight"[or whatever it's called] is GOOD

Rakim and BigDaddyKane and Treach and Redman are the best 90's MCs

Anticon bites DefJux, but is abstracter.

and,

my rhyming and songs/lyrics are good,.It's my delivery/speed that sucks
[ok i know this is for fan opinions about hiphop things, but i just had to dis myself, just to try and get some negative press respect laughs.rap is fun]
AMC

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:57 pm

Atmosphere is overrated.

The Afronaut · Post by **The Afronaut** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:03 pm

Dids wrote:I think 80% of what's good about anything she's been on is basically because Timbo is pretty awesome.

On Point.

Back on Topic:

Phife's presence on The Low End Theory and ESPECIALLY on Midnight Marauders is highly underrated.

Combo7 · Post by **Combo7** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:18 pm

admiral wrote:
Combo7 wrote:Vinnie > Treach
stop it

Treach was nice but his voice was not suited very well to the fast-rap style, in my opinion. Too often, his rhymes would sound like uncontrolled, incoherent yelling to me.

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:32 pm

Conspiracy wrote: Cannibal Ox sucks, but are cool guys. If they didn't have 'the cold vein' beats?.....they'd be nowhere

W. T. F.

did my own blood brother just say that in the same thread that Alaska said Missy Elliott is a better rapper than me?

FUCKING RAP IS FUCKING OUT OF FUCKING CONTROL.

Tim, that's just like me saying Vanilla Ice is a better rapper than you cause he sold more. Dude, stop being such a bitter old man. Missy can afford a better mix than me. She can sing better than me. But as a RAPPER? C'mon dude. I'm not a battle MC but I'll step to Missy in a minute and slice her head off her now-half-decent body.

stop the madness

ALASKA · Post by **ALASKA** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:38 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote:
Conspiracy wrote: Cannibal Ox sucks, but are cool guys. If they didn't have 'the cold vein' beats?.....they'd be nowhere

W. T. F.

did my own blood brother just say that in the same thread that Alaska said Missy Elliott is a better rapper than me?

FUCKING RAP IS FUCKING OUT OF FUCKING CONTROL.

Tim, that's just like me saying Vanilla Ice is a better rapper than you cause he sold more. Dude, stop being such a bitter old man. Missy can afford a better mix than me. She can sing better than me. But as a RAPPER? C'mon dude. I'm not a battle MC but I'll step to Missy in a minute and slice her head off her now-half-decent body.

stop the madness

because i said she can rap better than you im a bitter old man? you cant even find a beat. you have no style. you jam 40 extra syllables into your raps. this isnt new shit. you know this and accept it. she has more flow and style than you so yes she can rap better than you. it has nothing to do with sales. it has to do with technical proficiency and that shit doesnt come from a mix.

admiral · Post by **admiral** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:39 pm

Combo7 wrote:
admiral wrote:
Combo7 wrote:Vinnie > Treach
stop it

Treach was nice but his voice was not suited very well to the fast-rap style, in my opinion. Too often, his rhymes would sound like uncontrolled, incoherent yelling to me.

The only thing vinnie was nicer at was being short.

I don't really see the uncontrolled, incoherent yelling thing, but I guess we'll just disagree on it.

B'Tol · Post by **B'Tol** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:44 pm

Here we go again.

Popcorn at the ready.

Guru is the most boring rapper I have ever heard.

indianaJ0nes · Post by **indianaJ0nes** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:45 pm

Reggie wrote:
Cash Rulz wrote:- I do not believe ATCQ has made a classic album. I think they've made good albums, but none of which I would regard as classic.

co-signed...i really like and still listen to about 5 songs on every tribe album...the rest get skipped through, although they aren't bad songs, just no staying power for me