El-P - Cancer for Cure
Moderators: TheBigSleep, stype_ones, Philaflava
- Brougham33
- Posts: 9571
- Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2004 12:06 pm
<object width="560" height="315"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/dS0yi1FQDtg?ve ... ram><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/dS0yi1FQDtg?version=3&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="560" height="315" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>
<object width="560" height="315"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/eJG-SwHEmZk?ve ... ram><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/eJG-SwHEmZk?version=3&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="560" height="315" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>
-
- Posts: 1191
- Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:53 am
- Location: san jose
- Brougham33
- Posts: 9571
- Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2004 12:06 pm
http://teamcoco.com/video/el-p-works-every-time
Worth it just to see LaBamba on the horns. I have no idea what the appeal or point of Zola Jesus was though.
Worth it just to see LaBamba on the horns. I have no idea what the appeal or point of Zola Jesus was though.
<object width="560" height="315"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/8JnRzpTkW6A?ve ... ram><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/8JnRzpTkW6A?version=3&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="560" height="315" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>
-
- Posts: 3621
- Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 5:10 pm
- Location: Seattle
-
- Posts: 346
- Joined: Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:46 pm
- Location: Austin
Agreed. I saw his show when he stopped by Austin. All acts leading up to El were dope. Despot was great, eXquire was crazy, and Killer Mike had a pretty interesting set (lots of R.A.P. Music tracks, but also some from the Pledge series and early guest verses). Although when El came on stage, the pace went down quite a bit. His angsty/dramatic presence was pretty contrasting from the rest of the show.Dids wrote:I love El-P's music, but he makes weird choices with his live show.
He had live instruments playing some of the parts (featuring an overzealous keytarist) that were waaay too loud, they overpowered this backing tracks and it was kind of distracting. Previously mentioned Keytarist had one preset in his arsenal, a very loud high pitched sound effect that was ear-splitting, kinda killed the mood as well. Also, the backing tracks were awful, muffled up (what I guess were) mp3s that lacked the boom and power of Killer Mike's set.
Maybe the soundman was having a shitty day, but El-P's live show doesn't quite match the awesome sound that the album has. In fact, on of my favorite things about C4C was how great it sounded. It was a shame.
The show was still fun though, the venue was packed and everyone was pretty much wasted.
-
- Posts: 3621
- Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 5:10 pm
- Location: Seattle
-
- Posts: 346
- Joined: Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:46 pm
- Location: Austin
Exactly. I think El's high quality standard kinda had my expectations too high. The show was still dope, though. El-P himself was on point (nh).QWALMS wrote:I doubt any sound man but the best in the industry with the best sound system could do El's sonics any justice. Too complex, too bass-heavy, and pretty much every frequency band is occupied. Already said I'm looking forward to the show but I'm assuming it'll be a bit more of the same.
It seems like he's only interested in performing tracks ( on tv shows, at least) when he can utilize all of Chin-Chin, Activator, and other random guests in some capacity.
On record I barely even notice the random indie-rockish guests like the dude from Interpol. They certainly don't need to feature some other weirdo covering such an integral part. Though I guess i am somewhat amused by all the twitter reactions to the "weird band El-P with the lady gaga impersonator" and this "new generic white rapper with the Village People band."
That said, I do like "Stay Down" and enjoyed the Nick Diamonds assisted Letterman appearance.
On record I barely even notice the random indie-rockish guests like the dude from Interpol. They certainly don't need to feature some other weirdo covering such an integral part. Though I guess i am somewhat amused by all the twitter reactions to the "weird band El-P with the lady gaga impersonator" and this "new generic white rapper with the Village People band."
That said, I do like "Stay Down" and enjoyed the Nick Diamonds assisted Letterman appearance.
i disagree.DLG wrote:If you're going to have a live band playing you should get rid of the backing track entirely and work out a way to adapt your music to that setting imo. that's the only way to avoid a clusterfuck.
live drums can't fill the room the way programmed drums do.
but i'm an old idiot and my opinions on such matters mean zilch.
-
- Posts: 1191
- Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:53 am
- Location: san jose
hmm i saw the show in phoenix the other night and i didn't feel the pace go down at all. it was loud as fuck (in a good way) and while the show was already great leading up to him, his set really took it over the top.DJ Primate wrote:Agreed. I saw his show when he stopped by Austin. All acts leading up to El were dope. Despot was great, eXquire was crazy, and Killer Mike had a pretty interesting set (lots of R.A.P. Music tracks, but also some from the Pledge series and early guest verses). Although when El came on stage, the pace went down quite a bit. His angsty/dramatic presence was pretty contrasting from the rest of the show.Dids wrote:I love El-P's music, but he makes weird choices with his live show.
you can trigger the drums and pretty much pull the exact samples you are using on record from the module. no?sean wrote:i disagree.DLG wrote:If you're going to have a live band playing you should get rid of the backing track entirely and work out a way to adapt your music to that setting imo. that's the only way to avoid a clusterfuck.
live drums can't fill the room the way programmed drums do.
but i'm an old idiot and my opinions on such matters mean zilch.
Show was pretty solid.
Despot was great, for a guy whose style is kinda yell-y, it translated well live, with a lot of clarity. He's fucking tiny.
Esquire was good but short.
Killer Mike was great- maybe a bit long for my taste. I also have a real hard time with the crowd of middle class white kids who weren't born or aware during Regan's presidency getting so chanty along with that one song. In general I think I'm just kind "I hate kids". I mean shit- I could move through a crowd and hit less people than some of these clowns when I was 150 lbs heavier. (to their credit the crowd was pretty live and into it)
El-P was really good- he did the new album straight through. Had a few live drums, which were good, and the keytar, which wasn't at all (one of the things I typically like about hip-hop is that it avoids the rambling, noisy excess of guitar work, and this was a whole lot of that). His encore was "Everything Must Go", "Vital Nerve" (which was awesome for me to see live) and Deep Space 9mm.
Also seeing shows sober is less that ideal.
Despot was great, for a guy whose style is kinda yell-y, it translated well live, with a lot of clarity. He's fucking tiny.
Esquire was good but short.
Killer Mike was great- maybe a bit long for my taste. I also have a real hard time with the crowd of middle class white kids who weren't born or aware during Regan's presidency getting so chanty along with that one song. In general I think I'm just kind "I hate kids". I mean shit- I could move through a crowd and hit less people than some of these clowns when I was 150 lbs heavier. (to their credit the crowd was pretty live and into it)
El-P was really good- he did the new album straight through. Had a few live drums, which were good, and the keytar, which wasn't at all (one of the things I typically like about hip-hop is that it avoids the rambling, noisy excess of guitar work, and this was a whole lot of that). His encore was "Everything Must Go", "Vital Nerve" (which was awesome for me to see live) and Deep Space 9mm.
Also seeing shows sober is less that ideal.
yep. i guess i misinterpretted you, because i assumed when you said "entirely" you meant "get rid of the original samples."DLG wrote:you can trigger the drums and pretty much pull the exact samples you are using on record from the module. no?sean wrote:i disagree.DLG wrote:If you're going to have a live band playing you should get rid of the backing track entirely and work out a way to adapt your music to that setting imo. that's the only way to avoid a clusterfuck.
live drums can't fill the room the way programmed drums do.
but i'm an old idiot and my opinions on such matters mean zilch.