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unclebengi wrote:Audio interview w/ woods just popped up- http://theshapeofthingstocome.net/?p=239

Haven't had a chance to peep yet, but looking forward to it. The interviewer Shape can be a little long winded, but over an hour long interview with billy??? Should be pretty good.
Mad informative.

I listened to HWAM front to back again yesterday. This is my vote for album of the year and much as I dig a lot of other shit that has dropped, I doubt anything will come close to topping this. I've been slacking on doing a full write-up in part because there's no way to properly address all the subjects he broaches on here, short of writing a 10-page discource, which I might end up doing regardless that probably less than 10 people will read the whole thing. For now I'm just going to reiterate that this is an extermely important record.

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Interview was long but great. An EP with Elucid coming? Great news.

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Versive wrote:
unclebengi wrote:Audio interview w/ woods just popped up- http://theshapeofthingstocome.net/?p=239

Haven't had a chance to peep yet, but looking forward to it. The interviewer Shape can be a little long winded, but over an hour long interview with billy??? Should be pretty good.
Mad informative.

I listened to HWAM front to back again yesterday. This is my vote for album of the year and much as I dig a lot of other shit that has dropped, I doubt anything will come close to topping this. I've been slacking on doing a full write-up in part because there's no way to properly address all the subjects he broaches on here, short of writing a 10-page discource, which I might end up doing regardless that probably less than 10 people will read the whole thing. For now I'm just going to reiterate that this is an extermely important record.
I will read it.

One thing I'm still curious about though is what Billy Woods' stance is exactly.

He condemns dictatorships, imperialism, capitalism, religion even revolution, but what does he actually stand for?
Even the album title and cover are very ambiguous, what is his actual opinion on Castro (whose famous line he used for the title of his album) and Mugabe?
Does Billy Woods stand for anything at all? Is he a nihilist? Really curious about that.
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OME and Billy will be performing in BK on Wed. http://www.cameony.net/event/137299/?ut ... dium=email

Anybody in the area who missed last year's Yule Prog would be wise to attend.

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Ka and billy woods in Brooklyn on Friday and an open bar? FML

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I take it you can't make it?

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COOLEHMAGAZINE wrote:Ka and billy woods in Brooklyn on Friday and an open bar? FML

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Can't wait to hear the project with Block and of course "Oliver Twist" with BOND.
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woods appears on this comp http://reservoirsound.bandcamp.com/album/alea-iacta-est
+ bunch of new from A.M. Breakups and Elucid too

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Mr. Troy & Junclassic - Figures
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Billy is on it, too

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Nasa interviewed woods on uncommon radio: http://www.uncommonmusic.net/uncommon-radio/

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Just now getting around to History Will Absolve Me. i can really only tolerate the offbeat rambling for whole verses over willie Green beats. that guy is a genius, hands down. most of the other production either falls flat or doesn't suit woodses style imo. where is BOND?

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I can understand not digging A.M. Breakups' and Marmadukes' production styles. They're definitely not for everyone and are especially removed from the more traditional sounds of a guy like Bond. I like the album's "progressive" sound and think the production complements the themes he's putting forward, but also wouldn't mind hearing more Bond on future releases.

That being said, I think to call woods' verses "offbeat rambling" is pretty dismissive. I've heard this phrase or similar words used to describe RZA's rhymes also and it's just not accurate.

First off neither rhymes offbeat in the sense that they aren't capable of catching the beat and staying in pocket. They either make an active choice to place their vocals in different spots or that's simply their natural style. Either way, it's not the chaotic mess that "offbeat" implies. They have their own rhythms and cadences and they follow them effectively. There's no hip-hop commandment that says "Thou shalt always end each bar on a snare."

Second, dude is not rambling. Ranting maybe, but not rambling. To ramble is to wander, as if he doesn't have a point to make. That's definitely not the case.

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intentional or not, "offbeat" is a pretty accurate approximation, to my ear. but i get that that is his style ...and it suits him and the subject matter, and helps create the overall aesthetic/is a large part of the appeal here. but i can't get into it over beats i don't like, sorry.

you might be right about the ranting vs. rambling part. yes, he delivers his raps in an indignant tone, like there's always something to get off his chest, but i haven't fully dissected the lyrics yet to be able to make an argument one way or the other. my guess is it's a bit of both.
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You don't gotta apologize for your opinion. I'm just saying it's not offbeat, it's on a different beat.

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There are a lot of different definitions of "offbeat." People always called Chuck D, Kool Keith, or GURU's styles offbeat. It got a completely different connotation to it when the anticon guys came out around '99 or so and hordes of white rappers who were rhythmically challenged tried to pick up the mic and make music. Woods is probably offbeat by the old school definition (wherein an artist creates a style within the rhythm of the music, but outside of more common rhyme structure), but not by the more modern definition (timing is off).
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Ight, I'm sold.

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http://socialistworker.org/2012/11/06/o ... -in-africa
Nothing to do with music itself, but relevant to our discussion of this album nonetheless

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There are some pretty serious oversimplifications in here, which is annoying, because there is a lot to talk about.

Discussing the Congo as if the only bad actors there are Rwanda, and as though their actions are specifically at the behest or encouragement of the U.S. is...pretty much a lie. Rwanda's malfeasance is but one of the problems in that particular region of Congo and is intimately tied to the post-genocide retrenchment of Hutu genocidaires (and innocent Hutu's in refugee camps) in Eastern Congo, as well as their subsequent persecution of the Bamulenge (sp) who are ethnically related to the Tutsi's that currently control Rwanda. When the magazine was still running, we wrote a lot about this region and it annoys me to see people distorting things to fit an agenda. Especially when you could still make some of the more relevant points while presenting a full view of what is going on.

LOL @ the US being held responsible for tensions between Sudan and Southern Sudan. Is it that...or the 35 year genocidal murdering of successive Khartoum governments? Hmmm.

Kony 2012 is a joke and ridiculously uninformed "project". That said, Joseph Kony getting killed is way overdue and something no one should be sad about if it ever comes to pass. If anything, it will give Uganda's president Yoweri Museveni one less juistification for his abuse and neglect of Acholiland (the region in Uganda that Kony was attemtpting to "liberate" when he started his guerilla campaign decades ago). Museveni is a bum, but it is what it is.

Saying that the U.S. is the "major purveyor of violence in Africa" is a very broad statement that is probably incorrect (depending on how one measures such things) and more importantly, does nothing to really diffrentiate between some very different situations across an enormous continent. The U.S. is determined to fight Islamic militants that make common cause with Al Queda, something that is really only an issue in the Horn and Northern Africa. Whether or not you agree or disagree with this policy, it has pretty much nothing to do with violence in the Congo or West African civil conflicts or crime in South Africa.

I'm not saying that there are not legitimate issues in this, and certainly the lack of domestic discussion is noteworthy. This shit is very interesting but there is either a lack of intellectual rigor or a deliberate twisting of scenarios to suit a predetermined position.

That shit annoys me. Got a neighbor out here writing paragraphs "defending" US foreign policy, which is pretty much the last thing I want to do. But when people make bad arguments about things that are worth arguing about they open the door for right-wingers to come and point out the glaring inaccuracies and thus discredit everyone, including people like me. :fail:
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COOLEHMAGAZINE wrote:There are some pretty serious oversimplifications in here, which is annoying, because there is a lot to talk about.
You're right and that site is often guilty of this type of "reporting," but I saw the article and it made me think of the album so I posted it here.
COOLEHMAGAZINE wrote:Oh, and anyone going to see Cult Favorite tonight in Brooklyn?
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Interesting analysis of Pompeii

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Twitter rumblings of the day include billy and Blue Sky Black Death talking collab...shit would be amazing. I always thought BSBD/billy would be a great fit, but didn't think it would actually happen. Between this news & the Blockhead album, 2013 could be an even bigger year for woods.

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As the man himself has been known to shout, "MORE FIRE!"

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Wow... BSBD? Crazy.
My most anticipated billy album is his collaboration with BOND, though.

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I was just in the studio with Woods and Willie green finishing up sequencing. Should be mixed by the end of this month and out around may. Sounding very dope, btw.

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excellent news. how many tracks we talkin about?

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ogie wrote:excellent news. how many tracks we talkin about?
13 or 14. Depending if we keep all the tracks and/or leak a bonus track prior to the release. We haven't decided yet.

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