The World's Greatest Producer Has Bad Taste In Hip-Hop?

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:53 pm

Some albums are more than worthy, some are just

especially with their rankings. And a big

at Term not even being in his top 10 after producing the best cuts on that album.

DJ Premier's Top 20 albums of 2008

1. DJ REVOLUTION--KING OF THE DECKS (Duck Down)
2. EVIDENCE--THE LAYOVER EP (Decon)
3. STATIK SELEKTAH--STICK 2 THE SCRIPT (Showoff/Traffic)
4. SCARFACE--EMERITUS (Rap-A-Lot/Asylum)
5. D.I.T.C. presents THE MOVEMENT (D.I.T.C./Traf fic)
6. JAKE ONE--WHITE VAN MUSIC (RHYMESAYERS)
7. EMC--THE SHOW (M3/ TRAFFIC)
8. P BROTHERS--THE GAS (IMPORT)
9. LIL WAYNE--THE CARTER III (CASH MONEY/UNIVERSAL)
10. HELTAH SKELTAH--D.I.R.T.(Da Incredible Rap Duo) (DUCK DOWN)
11. LUDACRIS--THEATER OF THE MIND (DEF JAM/UNIVERSAL)
12. BIG SHUG--OTHER SIDE OF THE GAME (TRAFFIC)
13. TERMANOLOGY--POLITICS AS USUAL (NATURE SOUNDS/EMI)
14. GUILTY SIMPSON--ODE TO THE GHETTO (STONES THROW)
15. Q-TIP--THE RENAISSANCE (MOTOWN/UNIVERSAL)
16. ICE CUBE--RAW FOOTAGE (LENCH MOB/EMI)
17. CRAIG G & MARLEY MARL--OPERATION TAKE BACK HIP HOP (GOOD HANDS)
18. EPMD--WE MEAN BUSINESS (EP RECORDS)
19. 88 KEYS-- THE DEATH OF ADAM (DECON)
20. ILL BILL--THE HOUR OF REPRISAL (FAT BEATS)

HONORABLE MENTION-----(NOT IN ORDER)
1. GZAגPRO TOOLS
2. REKSגGRAY HAIRS
3. DEVIN THE DUDEגLANDING GEAR
4. LARGE PROFESSORגMAIN SOURCE
5. NAS--UNTITLED
6. PRODIGY--HNIC 2
7. TRICK TRICKגTHE VILLIAN
8. YOUNG MAYLAYגTHE REAL COAST GUARD
9. THE GAMEגL.A.X.
10. BLACK MILKגTRONIC
11. TORAEגDAILY CONVERSATION 12. VAST AIREגDEUCES WILD

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:55 pm

Can somebody explain how Reks isn't even in the top 20? Yet Craig G, Ice Cube, EPMD & Guilty Simpson are all way ahead of him.

Go ahead fanboys, try and justify this mess.

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:57 pm

i swear i see Term's name more on this board than i fuckin' should.......

CRASH DDZ · Post by **CRASH DDZ** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:03 pm

Philaflava wrote:Can somebody explain how Reks isn't even in the top 20? Yet Craig G, Ice Cube, EPMD & Guilty Simpson are all way ahead of him.

Preemo's a legend. Craig G, Ice Cude and are also legends in thier own rite.. His tastes are going to lean to the classic era he helped create.

Guilty is that shit.

Didn't hear Reks. Ironic since my name is crash. Shut it Driz.

When I see that list I see 2 things:
A bunch of CD's I own:

2. EVIDENCE--THE LAYOVER EP (Decon)
*edit havnt heard static selektah
6. JAKE ONE--WHITE VAN MUSIC (RHYMESAYERS)
7. EMC--THE SHOW (M3/ TRAFFIC)

10. HELTAH SKELTAH--D.I.R.T.(Da Incredible Rap Duo) (DUCK DOWN)
11. LUDACRIS--THEATER OF THE MIND (DEF JAM/UNIVERSAL)
14. GUILTY SIMPSON--ODE TO THE GHETTO (STONES THROW)
HIP HOP (GOOD HANDS)
18. EPMD--WE MEAN BUSINESS (EP RECORDS)
19. 88 KEYS-- THE DEATH OF ADAM (DECON)
20. ILL BILL--THE HOUR OF REPRISAL (FAT BEATS)

HONORABLE MENTION-----(NOT IN ORDER)
1. GZAגPRO TOOLS

and the 2nd thing I see are the ones I should probably seek out since I can feel this list so much.

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:08 pm

Ok, from that list. Albums that got a bad rep on here from what I remember were Guilty, Q-Tip, Term, EPMD, Large Pro, Gza, and Nas. So by standards of

, its terrible taste......well done, Gloss.....

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:11 pm

LOL@ the backpacker cavalry arriving immediately to defend this

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:12 pm

Can we get some respectable posters in here instead of this safe/boring shit?

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:14 pm

Term's biggest fan wrote:Can we get some respectable posters in here instead of this safe/boring shit?

Balzac · Post by **Balzac** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:15 pm

solid list, except for big shug and trick trick

chiefbombpro · Post by **chiefbombpro** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:45 pm

That is a fucked up list. Top 20 2008 list without "The Preface/Euro Pass" is an invalid list IMO.

Yohan · Post by **Yohan** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:59 pm

Just seems to me that he compiled a list of albums he (partially) produced or compilationalbums from fellow DJ's.

I remember last year, he had a questionable list as well.

Mansfield Status · Post by **Mansfield Status** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:13 pm

this list is bad.. I liked the layover and of the albums on this list, that and Jake One are the only 2 I actually own out of the top 20.

Reggie · Post by **Reggie** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:24 pm

Don't all great artists seem to love the shittiest representations of their art?

That being said, this list isn't terrible. It does suck, though.

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:40 pm

you guys know jay-z listens to coldplay , linkin park and john mayer, right?

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:48 pm

Blockhead wrote:you guys know jay-z listens to coldplay , linkin park and john mayer, right?

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:49 pm

No list that includes Termanology should ever be taken seriously.

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:49 pm

Mansfield Status wrote:this list is bad.. I liked the layover and of the albums on this list, that and Jake One are the only 2 I actually own out of the top 20.

You are fat and have no talent. Thanks, though.

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:49 pm

Guilty Simpson is atrocious by the way.

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:56 pm

Employee wrote:
Blockhead wrote:you guys know jay-z listens to coldplay , linkin park and john mayer, right?

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:02 pm

Blockhead wrote:
Employee wrote:
Blockhead wrote:you guys know jay-z listens to coldplay , linkin park and john mayer, right?

I think he throws that notion out there to stack some chips and gain fans from the "KIDS WHO CUT THEMSELVES" crowd.

I really can't see Jay-Z eating caviar to "Daughters" by John Mayer.

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:07 pm

Employee wrote:
Blockhead wrote:
Employee wrote:
Blockhead wrote:you guys know jay-z listens to coldplay , linkin park and john mayer, right?

I think he throws that notion out there to stack some chips and gain fans from the "KIDS WHO CUT THEMSELVES" crowd.

I really can't see Jay-Z eating caviar to "Daughters" by John Mayer.

i dunno. i've noticed famous rappers tend to have awful musical taste. especially where non-rap is concerned.Not to mention, jay's old as shit now. i could see him chilling in a bubble bath bumping "your body is a wonderland". :nofancy:

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:07 pm

My thoughts about this list.

1. DJ REVOLUTION--KING OF THE DECKS (Duck Down)

Not even the 5th best compilation this year. Full of filler.

2. EVIDENCE--THE LAYOVER EP (Decon)

Evidence is an atrocious rapper. The production is good but to be #2 on any list is absurd.

3. STATIK SELEKTAH--STICK 2 THE SCRIPT (Showoff/Traffic)

This is extremely disappointing compared to Statik's first LP. But he is boys with Statik and his manager so the love is understandable.

4. SCARFACE--EMERITUS (Rap-A-Lot/Asylum)

I'm okay with this. It's a top 5 LP.

5. D.I.T.C. presents THE MOVEMENT (D.I.T.C./Traf fic)

Horrible leftover crap thrown together so somebody could pay rent.

6. JAKE ONE--WHITE VAN MUSIC (RHYMESAYERS)

A good compilation. Not top 6 material. Better than DJ Revolution and Statik though.

7. EMC--THE SHOW (M3/ TRAFFIC)

Not mad at this. Top 10 LP.

8. P BROTHERS--THE GAS (IMPORT)

Not mad at this. Top 10 LP.

9. LIL WAYNE--THE CARTER III (CASH MONEY/UNIVERSAL)

Not mad at this. Top 10 LP.

10. HELTAH SKELTAH--D.I.R.T.(Da Incredible Rap Duo) (DUCK DOWN)

Not mad at this. Top 10 LP.

11. LUDACRIS--THEATER OF THE MIND (DEF JAM/UNIVERSAL)

Album is forgettable like most Luda albums. He's corny and contrived more now than ever before.

12. BIG SHUG--OTHER SIDE OF THE GAME (TRAFFIC)

Clearly we know why he put this on the list. Big Shug makes Lip Dap sound like Rakim.

13. TERMANOLOGY--POLITICS AS USUAL (NATURE SOUNDS/EMI)

Laughable.

14. GUILTY SIMPSON--ODE TO THE GHETTO (STONES THROW)

Over Elzhi or Black Milk?

15. Q-TIP--THE RENAISSANCE (MOTOWN/UNIVERSAL)

Not made at this.

16. ICE CUBE--RAW FOOTAGE (LENCH MOB/EMI)

Not a great Cube album. Shouldn't even be in the top 20.

17. CRAIG G & MARLEY MARL--OPERATION TAKE BACK HIP HOP (GOOD HANDS)

LMAO.

18. EPMD--WE MEAN BUSINESS (EP RECORDS)

For nostalgic reason I'm cool with this. The album wasn't that great though.

19. 88 KEYS-- THE DEATH OF ADAM (DECON)

A sleep on compilation that should be on the list along with Flying Lotus.

20. ILL BILL--THE HOUR OF REPRISAL (FAT BEATS)

I get it. He pays you.

HONORABLE MENTION-----(NOT IN ORDER)
1. GZAגPRO TOOLS

The worst Babygrande album of all--time.

2. REKSגGRAY HAIRS

This is better than anything in his top 10. Cannot believe he did not include this.

3. DEVIN THE DUDEגLANDING GEAR

This was a pity nomination. We all know the album stunk.

4. LARGE PROFESSORגMAIN SOURCE

See above.

5. NAS--UNTITLED

See above.

6. PRODIGY--HNIC 2

Should be top 20.

7. TRICK TRICKגTHE VILLIAN

Didn't listen, don't know.

8. YOUNG MAYLAYגTHE REAL COAST GUARD

See above.

9. THE GAMEגL.A.X.

The cool vote to show he knows whats up in the west.

10. BLACK MILKגTRONIC

Honorable.

11. TORAEגDAILY CONVERSATION

Honorable.

12. VAST AIREגDEUCES WILD

Horrible.

Can somebody give Premier the following to listen to?

The Roots - Rising Down
Atmosphere - When Life Gives You Lemons You Paint That Shit Gold
Killer Mike - I Pledge Allegiance To The Grind II
Young Jeezy - The Recession
A.B.N. - It Is What It Is

and that new Fat Joe

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:13 pm

Blockhead wrote:.Not to mention, jay's old as shit now. i could see him chilling in a bubble bath bumping "your body is a wonderland".

Good point.

Reggie · Post by **Reggie** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:19 pm

I didn't see Deuces Wild on that list before. That album is a complete abomination. Thank god Premier makes music and isn't an A&R at some label.

provoked15 · Post by **provoked15** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:19 pm

ode to the ghetto was a good album, but the madlib remixed versions were better.

chillhood · Post by **chillhood** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:23 pm

rofl @ 88-Keys being mentionned. We both originate from

but Death of Adam was absolutely terrible. Biggest disappointment last year. How he gon' mention Tronic but not The Preface ?
anyway...

chillhood · Post by **chillhood** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:31 pm

provoked15 wrote:ode to the ghetto was a good album, but the madlib remixed versions were better.

Madlib remixed that album ??? when ? where ?
I didn't like that album. didn't pay attention to the lyrics cuz I never do but the beats were mostly blah. even Madlib's . If I recall well only Black Milk had a few head-nodding joints on there. The Dilla track was a joke

chiefbombpro · Post by **chiefbombpro** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:35 pm

Employee wrote:Guilty Simpson is atrocious by the way.

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:46 pm

chiefbombpro wrote:
Employee wrote:Guilty Simpson is atrocious by the way.

Guaranteed you're nineteen and ride a Segway to your job at a local sandwich shop.

BlingRhames · Post by **BlingRhames** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:10 pm

rap sucked this year