why i don't like most white rappers

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:23 pm

hey i'm just being honest. a lot of you feel the exact way but don't say shit, i can't live in silence.

Here is a new track called "They Call This (Hip Hop)" by Classified.

It features one of my favorite newcomers B.o.B. along with Royce Da 5'9. Song is good. Nice beat, hook and verses UNTIL this dude starts rapping.

Besides having an unoriginal track he raps are drowning, contrived and its a waste of two great guest spots.

If I said I don't mind white rappers I'd be lying and its because of this right here. Doesn't mean if you're white your wack it just means there is a greater chance of that being the case. And how did this dude get these cats on here when Can-U & Intuition significantly better?

Download the track here
http://www.mediafire.com/?mjmntgz2mtm

BlingRhames · Post by **BlingRhames** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:24 pm

I've been trying to figure out where I know this dude from...can't be bothered to listen, with that artwork.....

I know some good white rappers. Just can't think of any. Paul Wall doesn't seem to count.
Yelawolf.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:26 pm

album title with relation to the cover is pretty damning yet also hilarously accurate

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:26 pm

I can list 30 white rappers I like but my whole point is its this shit right here that usually discourages me.

BlingRhames · Post by **BlingRhames** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:28 pm

Hot Karl

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:28 pm

White guilt makes a comeback.

Shitty white rappers.
Shitty black rappers.
Shitty laotian rappers.
Shitty korean rappers.
Shitty mexican rappers.

They all exist.

This was a funny/fun topic in 2007-2008, but it's markedly gay now.

blessingindisguise · Post by **blessingindisguise** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:29 pm

Stay away from soundclick and myspace then. It's a haven for this kinda shit.

ayentee · Post by **ayentee** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:29 pm

im like a hip hop stephen colbert. i dont hear color

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:29 pm

BlingRhames wrote:Hot Karl

blastmaster · Post by **blastmaster** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:30 pm

Yelawolf
Paul Wall
Question
Jeff Johnson

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:30 pm

it has nothing to do with guilt. it has to do with cats desperately trying to be down and paying or parlaying favors into getting 2 respectable emcees into a good track to only be ruined by some shitty contrived affected white rapper.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:31 pm

blessingindisguise wrote:Stay away from soundclick and myspace then. It's a haven for this kinda shit.

i think i got this off of 2dopeboyz or nahright.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:33 pm

If it was somebody like Black Milk, Elzhi or Finale do you think this track would suck? NOOOOOOOOO.

Can somebody edit this track to remove this guy for me?

intuition · Post by **intuition** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:38 pm

classified has always sucked to me. i had a female roommate that tried to put me on to him.

i was like "rele?"

shit like this is why i refuse to pay for guest spots. people check the track for the people you have on it and not for you.

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:38 pm

D-Sisive.....that kid's gotta track with Guilty Simpson thats dope.....

Yohan · Post by **Yohan** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:43 pm

Downloaded just for the B.O.B. feature.

PopeyeJones · Post by **PopeyeJones** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:47 pm

If your argument is that white rappers suck because there are many more horrible, corn ball ones than good ones, that's true regardless of race.

In any case, to be fair, part of it is that:

1) 70% of the country is white and it's been 20+ years since hip hop listening was racially specific.

2) A lot of white people are into quasi-experimental genres of hip hop that most people who have been listening for 20+ years aren't that into. The stuff they're into is just fucking horrible to your specific ears (e.g. Epic has a fan base, I don't get it either).

3) While the production cost for making rap music is still relatively low (about 5K for a computer, a program, and a good mic), younger white people still have disproportionate access to home computers that they a) can claim as their own/dominate the use of within the household and b) have the processing speed to make music on. This is changing, but the digital divide still exists.

4) Hiphop is still thought of as an authentically black art form (dominicans and puerto ricans have really been erased from its early history), so white rappers have the extra hurdle of overcoming a baseline of assumed inauthenticity for some people. It sounds like this is true of you. Sometimes this comes off as hackneyed and inauthentic (Termanalogy) which drives people away, and sometimes the effort isn't even made (Asher Roth) which drives people away also. For some people white rappers need to not be trying too hard on one end, but need to not sound too white on the other end. There's a small niche if acceptable people then.

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:34 pm

PopeyeJones wrote:If your argument is that white rappers suck because there are many more horrible, corn ball ones than good ones, that's true regardless of race.

It's not the ratio of good to bad white rappers that discredits them alone. It's also the extremely low percentage of white rappers in the category of excellent or even notably competent rappers. Like, four in history.

Also whites almost never have bassy, cool voices and even when they do they still manage to fag it up 90% of the time. It doesn't matter how many blac rappers supposedly have the same flaws if virtually no whites can transcend them.

Show me ten honkies at any level of the industry from any period of history with voices as memorable and well suited for rapping as WC, Brother J, Slim Thug, Fat Joe, Ak Skills, Ludacris, Killer Mike, MC Thick, Rampage The Last Boyscout, or Rakim.

The playing field in rap is not racially even no matter how hard some people here desperately pray to their statue of Elvis that it is.

Brougham33 · Post by **Brougham33** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:36 pm

Name the four?

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:43 pm

Brougham33 wrote:Name the four?

Corin Nemec
Michale Rapaport
Kid Kapri's Italian half
David Faustino

BlingRhames · Post by **BlingRhames** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:45 pm

ardamus wrote:
BlingRhames wrote:Hot Karl

What? he's the greatest

Brougham33 · Post by **Brougham33** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:49 pm

at a Parker Lewis reference.

vinylpops · Post by **vinylpops** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:56 pm

He's Canadian...

End thread?

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:59 pm

vinylpops wrote:He's Canadian...

End thread?

Thanks for the heads up.

Mods?

senorhaha · Post by **senorhaha** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:11 pm

it all boils down to voice and a bit of style for me

most whiteboys have voices that i dont want to hear
and just lack style

now ima try to think of a list of whiteboys whos voice i think stands out

ec illa,awol,mestizo,aesop,man this is kinda hard haha ok im done thinking fuck this

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:12 pm

ec illa is white????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Tweak Da Leak · Post by **Tweak Da Leak** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:19 pm

as carlton stated above most whities sound like fags

whites i can stand

eminem(sslp, and 5 songs off mmlp)
brother ali(voice doesnt suck)
a-wax(on strength of ru love)
smoov-e(i fucks wit the schmuck)

edit:

looking through my album collections i also have

deep puddle cd
overcast! cd
music for earthworms cd
Paul Wall/Chamillionaire mixtape
Cage radiohead single

so add those to the list

senorhaha · Post by **senorhaha** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:21 pm

Thun wrote:ec illa is white????????????????????????????????????????????????????

yeah, that was part of his claim to fame "ec ill cracker" "mr whitefolks"

Ho1ogramz · Post by **Ho1ogramz** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:21 pm

Thun wrote:ec illa is white????????????????????????????????????????????????????

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:21 pm

vinylpops wrote:He's Canadian...

End thread?

So is that like a double whammy?