Microphone Rapist: The Eligh I Used to Know

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Thu May 21, 2009 3:34 am

http://steadyb.blogspot.com/2009/05/mic ... -know.html

Galvatron78 · Post by **Galvatron78** » Thu May 21, 2009 7:45 am

good thread, i didnt really get put up on Eligh's music until 99' but then i backtracked and got all of his older stuff. He's been known to fuck it up severely on the track when he gets on some battle shit, my favorite examples would have to be..

- Submental (Log Cabin)

- Go see the preist

- Melancholy Manuscripts

- POWERFUL!!! (it's somewhat of a softie song but i like it)

- The avenue

- Nightlife

- and of course Sunsprayed

"I live in the land of the free and the home of the brave / man save that for the dummies!!!"

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Thu May 21, 2009 8:03 am

so, Emp, whats your take on his project he did with his moms? (no seriously, for those who don't know, he did a record with his moms thats a folk singer)

Echo Leader · Post by **Echo Leader** » Thu May 21, 2009 9:31 am

Galvatron78 wrote: Nightlife

This song is the shit, one of the first joints that really put me on to the LL Crew. Eligh was on point here, and dropping some serious end-of-the-world, post-apocalyptic hermit-in-the-mountain type shit.

It's too bad a lot of the Legends have started following trends instead of setting them like they used too. Every once in a while a really good record will come out of the camp (usually related to Eligh or the Journeymen) but a lot of the joints they're releasing now are on some second-generation hyphy-wannabe bullshit. I really liked the 3 Melancholy Gypsys full-length back in 2005 but I haven't really felt much else since then.

Almost anything from the 1995-1999 four-track era is dope though.

Murs now sucks. (Great live performer, though.)

HomeSkillet · Post by **HomeSkillet** » Thu May 21, 2009 10:03 am

I'll give it a listen don't really know this stuff

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Thu May 21, 2009 12:10 pm

ardamus wrote:so, Emp, whats your take on his project he did with his moms? (no seriously, for those who don't know, he did a record with his moms thats a folk singer)

I had no idea it even existed, man. Linkage?

Shup Diddy · Post by **Shup Diddy** » Thu May 21, 2009 12:25 pm

believe me he's still got it. the new g&e album may seem soft for fans of the old legends but what brought me back to feeling their music was how elevated his style was on each song. performance wise he still kills it too. Here's a vid of him performing a song off his new album "the grey crow" which is supposed to come out this year.

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a track dedicated to his aunt

Shup Diddy · Post by **Shup Diddy** » Thu May 21, 2009 12:36 pm

Echo Leader wrote: It's too bad a lot of the Legends have started following trends instead of setting them like they used too.

definitely agree with this 100%, i hated it when they moved out of oakland to LA cause the music made a huge change. loved almost famous but damn near hated creative differences

machine · Post by **machine** » Thu May 21, 2009 12:42 pm

Log Cabin. GAWD.

i happen to be the emcee that cannot be defeated by anyone ELSE.

Shup Diddy · Post by **Shup Diddy** » Thu May 21, 2009 12:45 pm

emp i think you need to school these niggas on Log Cabin for real

RoKnew · Post by **RoKnew** » Thu May 21, 2009 1:33 pm

Employee wrote:
ardamus wrote:so, Emp, whats your take on his project he did with his moms? (no seriously, for those who don't know, he did a record with his moms thats a folk singer)
I had no idea it even existed, man. Linkage?

His emceeing is still on point but it's a very soft album, like half of it is folk music, and it sounds like him & his mom are rapping/singing to each other a lot of the time. To be honest I haven't gone back to it really after a couple listens...The new G&E on the other hand has stayed in steady rotation.

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Thu May 21, 2009 2:39 pm

RoKnew wrote:
Employee wrote:
ardamus wrote:so, Emp, whats your take on his project he did with his moms? (no seriously, for those who don't know, he did a record with his moms thats a folk singer)
I had no idea it even existed, man. Linkage?
His emceeing is still on point but it's a very soft album, like half of it is folk music, and it sounds like him & his mom are rapping/singing to each other a lot of the time. To be honest I haven't gone back to it really after a couple listens...The new G&E on the other hand has stayed in steady rotation.

Yeah, I can agree with this.......overall, its an interesting sounding album. Nothing like Gas Dream or any of his others that have a harder sound.

http://www.myspace.com/elighandjo

Echo Leader · Post by **Echo Leader** » Thu May 21, 2009 3:20 pm

Shup Diddy wrote:school these niggas on Log Cabin for real

Log Cabin is actually very, very dope. Released one tape and then almost immediately broke up to pursue careers as both solo artists and groups. Thier shit was on some mystical, vision-quest type vibe at times but they've got skills for days.

According to some of the original members, the crew came together in the early 90's following a couple of failed record deals by the UniverSouls and Eligh, and for the first few years of it's existence Log Cabin membership flucuated between 6 and 13 members, but eventually coalesced around the 3 Melancholy Gypsys (Eligh, Murs, and Scarub), the UniverSouls (Tom Slick, Radioinactive, and Malik the Problem Child...I think?), and a couple of solo cats (Pooridge, Neosapien, Sahga, and Elusive). In 1995 Log Cabin was supposed to release a record called "LA Experimental" that never surfaced. Some of the joints that were supposed to be on that record were eventually released on Murs' first tape, "CoMURShul."

Shortly after the "CoMURShul" tape dropped Log Cabin broke up, with the Gypsys and most of the UniverSouls splitting for the Bay. This is where all the mythical bullshit starts...depending on who you talk to, the reason for the split was either artistic differences or (according to more popular opinion) the future LL crew members getting proverbially run out of LA by the Afterlife faction of Project Blowed. Apparently, Eligh said some pretty incendiary shit at a Good Life open mic night (something about "I'll serve every sucker in here...") and Ellay Khule the Rifleman took offense to some shit that Eligh said on "Dire Straits," a Log Cabin joint on the "CoMURShul" tape. Plus, the fact that Eligh and a couple of other Log Cabin dudes freaked it in the fast-rap chop style that the Blowed were famous for couldn't have helped either; they were percieved by a lot of Blowed members as biting their style, not paying homage to it.

Apparently it's all good between the two camps now, but I guess you could say that the Legends won out in the long run due to the (relative) success they've enjoyed over the past 10 or so years. The Afterlife (who are in my opinion vastly more talented), however, are still for the most part making hand-burnt CD-Rs to sell at the Access Hip Hop store. Rifleman seems to have enjoyed a little more success than most of those cats; I think his "Califormula" project was officially pressed and distributed through Decon Records which has put out various Blowed joints over the years. But I digress.

Anyway, I've got what I think is (at least in some form) the "LA Experimental" tape. These tracks have been circulating the dub / SoulSeek circuit for the past five or six years, and from what I can tell comprise the entire Log Cabin discography, including joints like "Sunsprayed" and "Dire Straits," which showed up on later Legends tapes. I can up it later tonight if anybody wants it.

For further reading (and a lot of first-hand Log Cabin knowledge) check out this Cocaine Blunts post and this post over at Dergatron 9000. Props to Noz & Dergatron for schooling me on these dudes.

blessingindisguise · Post by **blessingindisguise** » Thu May 21, 2009 4:23 pm

Eligh's a great mc and an underrated producer. Sidewasdayz and Poltergeist are my favorite ones from him.

christian from austin · Thu May 21, 2009 4:25 pm

i like some of the 3mg stuff. here are two songs off the penguins album i liked.
plus they segue into each other.

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GUCCI CONDOMS · Post by **GUCCI CONDOMS** » Thu May 21, 2009 4:41 pm

why is it I been on the innanetz for damn near 15 years and I still havent heard the log cabin album?

djjeffresh · Post by **djjeffresh** » Thu May 21, 2009 5:00 pm

log cabin/old legends stuff were cool at the time.

i cant hate on the crew for trying different styles, some people might think they're selling out or whatever. i think making their sound more accessible and evolving using their own flavor to create good music would be excellent.

in fact my problems with the crew really started when they started seeing some success and started releasing all these albums that were watered down, UHB 4, Grouch's newer stuff, Sunspot Jonz, etc. its like they had no discretion for awhilereleasing all these albums that included every half-assed song they recorded. kinda lost track of them after that.

how does poltergeist stack up against other eligh LPs? havent heard it.

Shup Diddy · Post by **Shup Diddy** » Thu May 21, 2009 5:06 pm

djjeffresh wrote: how does poltergeist stack up against other eligh LPs? havent heard it.

i honestly don't think eligh has released one LP on his own that was wack, but that may be just me. I thought poltergeist was ill, i would put it 3rd or so behind story of 2 worlds and gas dream

Shup Diddy · Post by **Shup Diddy** » Thu May 21, 2009 5:07 pm

Race Car Bed Sleeping Rapist Virgin wrote:why is it I been on the innanetz for damn near 15 years and I still havent heard the log cabin album?

cause like me, nigga, you never found this link: http://dergatron9000.blogspot.com/2007/ ... cabin.html

Radio Raheem · Post by **Radio Raheem** » Thu May 21, 2009 5:16 pm

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http://rs14.rapidshare.com/files/31086202/3_melancholy_gypsies___radioinactive_-_Log_Cabin_Crew_-_Log_Cabin.rar

This link is in the comments section of the link that Echo Leader posted. Titled Log Cabin Album

HomeSkillet · Post by **HomeSkillet** » Thu May 21, 2009 5:26 pm

Duh he was one of the Meloncholy gypsies - definitely a great trio
i forget everything

Rachel Hobozal · Post by **Rachel Hobozal** » Fri May 22, 2009 10:46 am

djjeffresh wrote:how does poltergeist stack up against other eligh LPs? havent heard it.

You need this album, bottom line. Production is the best Eligh's ever done and he's raping the mic like Employee's talking about in this thread.

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Fri May 22, 2009 10:49 am

What was the Log Cabin joint where they were rapping over the instrumental for "Basement Music"? That shit was insane.

godmc · Post by **godmc** » Fri May 22, 2009 11:10 am

are there any cdq log cabin joints out there from the submental era? i have some tracks but the audio makes the tracks almost unlistenable.

djjeffresh · Post by **djjeffresh** » Fri May 22, 2009 11:18 am

Cleanhobo wrote:
djjeffresh wrote:how does poltergeist stack up against other eligh LPs? havent heard it.
You need this album, bottom line. Production is the best Eligh's ever done and he's raping the mic like Employee's talking about in this thread.

aight then ill give it a shot.

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Fri May 22, 2009 11:49 am

godmc wrote:are there any cdq log cabin joints out there from the submental era? i have some tracks but the audio makes the tracks almost unlistenable.

Pretty sure the only log cabin joints that exist are of the quality you experienced.

djjeffresh · Post by **djjeffresh** » Fri May 22, 2009 11:59 am

re: ellay khule "beef"

Rifleman wrote:from cocaine blunts comments

yo yall fools really dont know what yall talking about..this shyt is funny though..yall telling second & third generation stories..we were there..we lived this shyt..we we started doing what we were doing all yall were kids doing 4th & 5th grade homework,,on the realג¦1989ג¦bone wasnt out,,log cabin wasnt out who was out..let me know,,goodlife hip sop started in 1989..& sinse they day of the open & before we were doing & creating they styles that everybody no & loves//fast shyt chop..mika 9 which was microphone mic had a reputation for the shyt he got known for sinse 1986 in LA no young kid @ all..CVE i saw these folls in battles in the mid 80s..me myself..100גs of battles & shows in the muthafucking 80s//not 1990s..so yall people need 2 really find out your history..then learn ours before u speak on it..some on us got kids yall ages..we didnt read the book . WE WROTE IT!!..hasnt nothinf 2 do wit conceit..& whomeever said that i had beef wit eligh..u trippping..everybody i had beef wit got..delt wit..u got half the story right..he went 2 school wit my lil homies..& thats about it..i dont beef wit kids..these dudes was babies..basic buttom line is this..we let EVERYBODY know back then..that we didnt play..we took our sounds & styles serious..& if u picked up on the style u was going 2 have 2 get into battles & let us know u worthy of doing that shyt,,it was just no fukkin log cabin,,it was EVERBODY..yall just seem 2 be on log cabins nuts so thats all u making reference 2ג¦man we sweating.das efx.gravedigga..some wu tang cats/rioted @ the mobb deep show at the unity. we were young hungry hip hoppers..trying 2 take whomever head we could.if u really knew the goodlifes history..thats what we were known for..battling who ever came thru..even each other..thats how 2000 crows got clicked up with us,,they came 2 the goodlife 2 battle us..we thought that showed heart so we remained cool with all of them 2 this day..& then they said that lgo cabin had nothing 2 do wit the blowed..bull..i used 2 see scarub & radio(kamal)up there all the timeג¦& murs used 2 be sitting up in the goodlife when he was like 15 or so..not ryhming just watchingג¦u know they real history..i lived it..dont get it twisteed wit all these/blurry fukking storiesג¦there is or wasnt no beef..people made a bigger deal then it was..becuase all i know is my homies fromthe badstads told me they had a group name log cabin\ & the sound like they bite the life..& we heard eligh come 2 the life when he was like 14 or 15..he blew up..but we all said that sounded like MC ellayfishace9..lol..we thought that he took a little from all of us..it wasnt like he sounded like any one in particular..just sound like he was trying 2 sound like the whole..& we all caught that @ the time..then i never saw him up ther again..but saw murs..then next thing i know they got log cabin,,& they chopping?..so yeha they didnt stick around..its like going 2 martial art school..then seeing what the teacher does..u show your technics then u leave.. & when the teacher sees u he sees u adopted more from what u showed that day & other occasions..yeah u might take it the wonrg way 2..but like i said..just know the history..im the only person onthe planet..that has the goodlife audio tapes..all of them..so i can go back & listen & let any one else listen..2 all this shyt im talking about..its documented..yall gone make me drop a LA underground dvd..& interview some ogs..2 give yall a real time scale & frame 2 how shyt was going..goodllife crew..is a 80גs crew..that emerged in the 90s..dont ever get it twisted//but we love all the emcees & hip hoppers now..wther u chopping or screwing..do u

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Fri May 22, 2009 12:48 pm

Rifleman wrote: MC ellayfishace9..

LOLzers.

I forget which Badstads tape it is, but there's one song where everyone is talking shit at the end. And someone who clearly sounds like Ellay Khule shouts "LOG CABIN KHILLLLLLAAAAZ!!!"

Galvatron78 · Post by **Galvatron78** » Fri May 22, 2009 6:49 pm

Employee wrote:
Rifleman wrote: MC ellayfishace9..
LOLzers.

I forget which Badstads tape it is, but there's one song where everyone is talking shit at the end. And someone who clearly sounds like Ellay Khule shouts "LOG CABIN KHILLLLLLAAAAZ!!!"

wasn't that track called "Lumbajacks"? I think it was on a HipHop Kclan tape.