Wu chases Slaughterhouse out at Rock the Bells?

iCONtheMicKing · Post by **iCONtheMicKing** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:58 pm

Magneto what you got for us family?

RAZAH CUTZ · Post by **RAZAH CUTZ** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:07 pm

LOL @ your sig....what was homie tryin to do....

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:07 pm

RTB is still on? Somebody told me they had to cancel the remaining shows.

What happened to all the peace?

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hired gun · Post by **hired gun** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:06 pm

Rumors, unsubstantiated.

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:11 pm

Mods?

iCONtheMicKing · Post by **iCONtheMicKing** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:18 pm

While that may ultimately be true http://twitter.com/questlove is one of the places where I saw it and why I came here with a question rather than a declaration.

Good day kind sirs.

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:54 pm

No. They all made up like cowards. Smh.

hired gun · Post by **hired gun** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:42 pm

Magneto wrote:No. They all made up like cowards. Smh.

aw come on Mags...self destruction, you're headed for self destruction.
What? You wanted them to go head up till somebody got knocked the fuck out or worse?

There wasn't anything good to this beef at all. It wasn't going to help Joey and it wasn't going to really tarnish their legacy. I don't think it would of done much to damage Joey either, and the prospect of WU gettin hit would be sort of uncomfortable like the boogeyman/Masta Ace shit.

In the grand scheme this ain't Nas/Jay with a real career at stake. Better they go on about the business of making a dope record (BOTH OF THEM) then wasting energy and bars on some silly shit.

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:07 pm

hired gun wrote:
Magneto wrote:No. They all made up like cowards. Smh.
aw come on Mags...self destruction, you're headed for self destruction.
What? You wanted them to go head up till somebody got knocked the fuck out or worse?

There wasn't anything good to this beef at all. It wasn't going to help Joey and it wasn't going to really tarnish their legacy. I don't think it would of done much to damage Joey either, and the prospect of WU gettin hit would be sort of uncomfortable like the boogeyman/Masta Ace shit.

In the grand scheme this ain't Nas/Jay with a real career at stake. Better they go on about the business of making a dope record (BOTH OF THEM) then wasting energy and bars on some silly shit.

I like violence though.

Most insincere apology ever? LOL this nigga is too much...

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Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:08 am

Philaflava wrote:RTB is still on? Somebody told me they had to cancel the remaining shows.

really? is that true?

and yeah, it's good that the beef got deaded.

violence between these dope rappers would not be kosher.

brutal rap records would have been better.

Deck's dis song being the only one to come out of this potential clash of the titans is kinda

. I wanted Method Man to spazz out. Get Redman and Busta Rhymes on the outro too, screaming at Joey Budddens.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:16 am

Magneto wrote:
hired gun wrote:
Magneto wrote:No. They all made up like cowards. Smh.
aw come on Mags...self destruction, you're headed for self destruction.
What? You wanted them to go head up till somebody got knocked the fuck out or worse?

There wasn't anything good to this beef at all. It wasn't going to help Joey and it wasn't going to really tarnish their legacy. I don't think it would of done much to damage Joey either, and the prospect of WU gettin hit would be sort of uncomfortable like the boogeyman/Masta Ace shit.

In the grand scheme this ain't Nas/Jay with a real career at stake. Better they go on about the business of making a dope record (BOTH OF THEM) then wasting energy and bars on some silly shit.
I like violence though.

Most insincere apology ever? LOL this nigga is too much...

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After watching that how could anyone really like this dude? It's not fun, it's not funny. He is the biggest douchebag in the game today. Slimely, sideways talkin' no respectable track record having Nahright hyped up rapper with talent and extremely little matching output.

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:57 am

I think his track record is very good, even though his personality makes it hard to give him his props.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:08 am

Magneto wrote:I think his track record is very good.

Come on duke. His track record is suspect as hell. Let's not count mixtapes because that's practice not a real game. His albums have really been mediocre at best. I know you want to talk about them being lyrically lyrical and all but besides yourself the majority of people don't think Buddens album have been very good.

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:08 am

Who's everybody? All of Buddens albums are critically acclaimed.

And his mixtapes are offical albums.

If I rated them

Joe Budden - 3.5/5
Mood Muzik 1 - 4/5
Mood Muzik 2 - 4.5/5
Mood Muzik 3 - 4/5
Halfway House - 3.5/5
Padded Room - 2/5

hired gun · Post by **hired gun** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:18 am

Magneto wrote:Who's everybody? All of Buddens albums are critically acclaimed.

And his mixtapes are offical albums.

If I rated them

Joe Budden - 3.5/5
Mood Muzik 1 - 4/5
Mood Muzik 2 - 4.5/5
Mood Muzik 3 - 4/5
Halfway House - 3.5/5
Padded Room - 2/5

I thought Mood Muzik were mixtapes? Who is he critically acclaimed by? It seems the people getting the pub and accolades are moving industry units. Joe is kinda weird to me because his technical style would be more appealing to a non mainstream fanbase, even if his content and persona are sometimes otherwise. But to my knowledge he doesn't have those numbers to get really a lot of notice above a certain point. The biggest thing he is known for still is his first single on his first studio album. Nothing has been bigger then that song, still.

I know he definitely has a core audience/base, but it may be no larger then say Sean's. And that's not a diss, moving what Sean has with building his own machine rather then depending on one in truth are probably worth double. The point is, I don't think Joe is that known or that reputable beyond a certain sector of hardcore fans in the know, the casual hip hop head who buys what's "hot" (Wayne, Jeezy, T.I. etc.) isn't looking for or checking for Joe.

Tweak Da Leak · Post by **Tweak Da Leak** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:50 am

Joe Buddens first def jam album is pretty good

padded room sucks

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:54 am

Mixtapes are not albums. A scrub player can drop 30 points in a practice but that don't mean shit. Budden also doesn't sell. This coming from the CEO of Amalgam Digital.

His track record is weak. Hired Gun is right, other than his debut single he never made a dent on any chart. Not that sales should dictate his worth but when it counts he is AWOL.

Mindbender Futurama · Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:11 pm

Joe Buddens is a proud, card-carrying, grade-A asshole.

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:00 pm

Everyone knows he doesn't sell records, but his albums are critically acclaimed.

And all his Mood Muziks are original songs, hooks, original production, original verses and are sold in stores. How are they not official albums????

zygmontone · Post by **zygmontone** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:05 pm

failing to make a good studio album is a legitimate point, but trying to use sales as an indicator of artistic merit is pretty :fail:

Req · Post by **Req** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:17 pm

lolz

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm

Magneto wrote:Everyone knows he doesn't sell records, but his albums are critically acclaimed.

hired gun · Post by **hired gun** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm

zygmontone wrote:failing to make a good studio album is a legitimate point, but trying to use sales as an indicator of artistic merit is pretty

What does the Belichek mean? I think that what is getting major pub, and being talked about specifically with a larger mainstream audience is tied to what is or isn't selling. Acts that are on majors and most importantly selling the most (or are predicted to....) generate the most noise and churn. That's it. Whether the album is good or not, or the artist is artistic or not has nothing to do with what they sell, just how much attention they'll draw.

iCONtheMicKing · Post by **iCONtheMicKing** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:30 pm

Magneto wrote:And all his Mood Muziks are original songs, hooks, original production, original verses and are sold in stores. How are they not official albums????

Word.

Not really seeing the difference. It's not like he dropped a bunch of freestyles on them mood muzik joints, they are actual songs.

hired gun · Post by **hired gun** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:36 pm

iCONtheMicKing wrote:
Magneto wrote:And all his Mood Muziks are original songs, hooks, original production, original verses and are sold in stores. How are they not official albums????
Word.

Not really seeing the difference. It's not like he dropped a bunch of freestyles on them mood muzik joints, they are actual songs.

Funny, I'm in Brooklyn and I didn't hear much noise about these joints outside of this forum and an occassional mention by a few people I'd run into every now and again, but I don't recall Budden blasting out cars with them joints.

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:38 pm

iCONtheMicKing wrote:
Magneto wrote:And all his Mood Muziks are original songs, hooks, original production, original verses and are sold in stores. How are they not official albums????
Word.

Not really seeing the difference. It's not like he dropped a bunch of freestyles on them mood muzik joints, they are actual songs.

Exactly. I think when people see Mix Tapes, they assume they are just a bunch of lyrical lyrical miracle 56 bar freestyles over popular beats.

Mood Muzik tapes are NOTHING -- AT ALL -- like that. They are all original songs, with hook/3 16 verse formats (Varies of course), etc...like I said. They are albums. There is no difference aside from distribution factors.

hired gun · Post by **hired gun** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:42 pm

Magneto wrote:
iCONtheMicKing wrote:
Magneto wrote:And all his Mood Muziks are original songs, hooks, original production, original verses and are sold in stores. How are they not official albums????
Word.

Not really seeing the difference. It's not like he dropped a bunch of freestyles on them mood muzik joints, they are actual songs.
Exactly. I think when people see Mix Tapes, they assume they are just a bunch of lyrical lyrical miracle 56 bar freestyles over popular beats.

Mood Muzik tapes are NOTHING -- AT ALL -- like that. They are all original songs, with hook/3 16 verse formats (Varies of course), etc...like I said. They are albums. There is no difference aside from distribution factors.

Ok, bet. So, Mood Muzik 1,2, and 3 are what is critically acclaimed? By who, cause I heard about these tapes more on this forum then anywhere else.

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:42 pm

hired gun wrote:
iCONtheMicKing wrote:
Magneto wrote:And all his Mood Muziks are original songs, hooks, original production, original verses and are sold in stores. How are they not official albums????
Word.

Not really seeing the difference. It's not like he dropped a bunch of freestyles on them mood muzik joints, they are actual songs.
Funny, I'm in Brooklyn and I didn't hear much noise about these joints outside of this forum and an occassional mention by a few people I'd run into every now and again, but I don't recall Budden blasting out cars with them joints.

Ahh they don't, but how in the world is that relevant? It has nothing to what we're discussing? We're discussing quality and why it's an official album. We're not talking about how popular it is, how many records he sales, if he gets played in the hood, etc...so why do you keep bringing it up?

Drastik · Post by **Drastik** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:47 pm

Req wrote:lolz

I don't get it. Is that supposed to be Budden with Meth?

hired gun · Post by **hired gun** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:47 pm

Magneto wrote:
hired gun wrote:
iCONtheMicKing wrote:
Magneto wrote:And all his Mood Muziks are original songs, hooks, original production, original verses and are sold in stores. How are they not official albums????
Word.

Not really seeing the difference. It's not like he dropped a bunch of freestyles on them mood muzik joints, they are actual songs.
Funny, I'm in Brooklyn and I didn't hear much noise about these joints outside of this forum and an occassional mention by a few people I'd run into every now and again, but I don't recall Budden blasting out cars with them joints.
Ahh they don't, but how in the world is that relevant? It has nothing to what we're discussing? We're discussing quality and why it's an official album. We're not talking about how popular it is, how many records he sales, if he gets played in the hood, etc...so why do you keep bringing it up?

Cause you say he or they are critically acclaimed? I just want to know how you are qualifying that? I dont care either way, whether you are going by sales or by straight cultural/artistic ideals. I just want to know how you claim something to be acclaimed but you aren't offering up anything other then your opinion (which is very valid, but might be the be all end all :-) ) that he is acclaimed.

Budden may be talented, but has he done anything to give him the reason to go at anyone other then to increase his visibility? Has history and critics really slighted his place amongst the likes of Meth or any other 'legend" for what he's done on a mic? I'm genuinely asking, are you saying Budden is one of those tragic cases of an artist never seeing the full potential of his legacy for variety of factors? An unmined gem no one ever got to see shine? I'm asking.