When Keeping it HORRORCORE Goes Wrong

battlecatmeowstab212 · Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:46 pm

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/162197 ... tory.jhtml

Horrorcore Rapper Syko Sam Arraigned On Murder Charges
Richard McCroskey is accused of killing four people, including a teenage fan and her father.

By Gil Kaufman

When he took the mic, aspiring California horrorcore rapper Richard McCroskey was known as Syko Sam, a violent, ax-wielding alter ego whose lyrics were flush with tales of killing people and whose MySpace page bears the warning, "I hate everything and I hate everyone." Now McCroskey, 20, is in jail after being arrested on Saturday at Richmond International Airport in Virginia, one day after police found the bodies of four people in a Farmville, Virginia home. The San Francisco Chronicle reported that McCroskey's MySpace page bore a number of messages from an adoring teenage fan from Virginia, Emma Niederbrock, who the rapper flew to visit on September 6. A friend said that McCroskey attended a horrorcore show in Michigan with Niederbrock and her best friend on September 12 called Strictly for the Wicked, with Niederbrock's parents driving them to the gig. Police believe that sometime after attending the concert, McCroskey killed the girl and three others in her home.

McCroskey will remain in jail following his first court appearance on Monday, according to The Associated Press. He appeared via video conference in Prince Edward County Court and was given a court-appointed attorney after being charged over the weekend with the first-degree murder of Mark Niederbrock, a pastor at a local Presbyterian church identified in published reports as the girl's father.

"It's a horrific crime. It's hard to imagine what these people must have gone through," police Sergeant Andy Ellington told the paper about the murders in a small town (population 7,200) with very little violent crime. "It's a close-knit community and everybody knows everybody. It's just devastating." Though not all the victims have been identified yet, police believe they include Emma Niederbrock, a friend of hers and another female.

There is no known motive yet, but Ellington said that when asked by a reporter how he committed the crime, McCroskey said, "Jesus told me to do it." He is suspected of first-degree murder, robbery and grand larceny in the theft of Mark Niederbrock's vehicle, and officials plan to charge him in the other three killings once the bodies have been positively identified.

According to the Silicon Valley Mercury News, police went to the home of Niederbrock's estranged wife, Debra Kelley ג where the bodies were found ג on Thursday after an unidentified West Virginia woman called to say that it had been days since she'd heard from her teenage daughter, who was staying with Kelley and Emma Niederbrock. When investigators went to the home, a man matching McCroskey's description allegedly told them the girls had gone to see a movie, but when the mother still hadn't heard from her daughter on Friday, police entered the home and found the bodies.

They arrested McCroskey the next day at the airport as he slept in a chair while waiting to take a flight back to California. Neighbors described him as a loner who almost always wore a black hooded sweatshirt. His lyrics included one song where he rhymed, "I've killed many people and I kill them real slow/ It's the best feeling, watching their last breath."

The Mercury News reported that someone appeared to have accessed McCroskey's MySpace page on Sunday and deleted many of the messages, including those from Niederbrock, who had reportedly once written on the page, "I know my mind works weird cause I always expect the worst, but I'm trying sooo hard not to with you cause I know you'd never hurt me."

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:48 pm

holy fuck, that's nuts.

didn't know there were "horrorcore" parties still.

rap is outta control.

peace to the survivors, and may justice be done.

Bizz Bozak · Post by **Bizz Bozak** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:04 pm

Spartan · Post by **Spartan** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:07 pm

Lets get Necro

HomeSkillet · Post by **HomeSkillet** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:07 pm

When does horrorcore go right?

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:10 pm

HomeSkillet wrote:When does horrorcore go right?

pestilence · Post by **pestilence** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:11 pm

battlecatmeowstab212 wrote:
His lyrics included one song where he rhymed, "I've killed many people and I kill them real slow/ It's the best feeling, watching their last breath."

It doesn't even rhyme

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:17 pm

Good.

Echo Leader · Post by **Echo Leader** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:18 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote:
HomeSkillet wrote:When does horrorcore go right?

Dudeman · Post by **Dudeman** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:22 pm

Awful.

http://www.myspace.com/samissyko

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:22 pm

Echo Leader wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:
HomeSkillet wrote:When does horrorcore go right?

yeah, that was 1st album was hard to top

Echo Leader · Post by **Echo Leader** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:27 pm

ardamus wrote:
Echo Leader wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:
HomeSkillet wrote:When does horrorcore go right?

yeah, that was 1st album was hard to top

No.

My point is, whatever the fuck "horrorcore" is defined as, The Pick The Sickle & The Shovel definitely does not fall under that banner.

Mindbender trying to act like he knows about rap music again.

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:38 pm

What a faggot. Castro Valley is alomost as white as Simi Valley.

Looks like Qwel on an acid binge.

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:42 pm

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:44 pm

Echo Leader wrote:
ardamus wrote:
Echo Leader wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:
HomeSkillet wrote:When does horrorcore go right?

yeah, that was 1st album was hard to top
No.

My point is, whatever the fuck "horrorcore" is defined as, The Pick The Sickle & The Shovel definitely does not fall under that banner.

Mindbender trying to act like he knows about rap music again.

Didn't Rza coin the word horrorcore for the Gravediggaz albums? It was the flatlinerz and the Gravediggaz both doing horrorcore in the beginning?

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:00 pm

Echo Leader wrote:
ardamus wrote:
Echo Leader wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:
HomeSkillet wrote:When does horrorcore go right?

yeah, that was 1st album was hard to top
No.

My point is, whatever the fuck "horrorcore" is defined as, The Pick The Sickle & The Shovel definitely does not fall under that banner.

Mindbender trying to act like he knows about rap music again.

Aiight, chill. Just saying that the 2nd Gravediggaz album wasn't that great in comparison from what I remebered. 1st one was the shit and it set more of the standard of horrorcore.

Post by **thekeentwo** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:06 pm

my friend told me about this. he knew this kid, they worked on a radio show for horrorcore together.

HomeSkillet · Post by **HomeSkillet** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:07 pm

thekeentwo wrote:my friend told me about this. he knew this kid, they worked on a radio show for horrorcore together.

freaky don't ever trust anyone they vouch for

Echo Leader · Post by **Echo Leader** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:00 pm

ardamus wrote:
Echo Leader wrote:
ardamus wrote:
Echo Leader wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:

yeah, that was 1st album was hard to top
No.

My point is, whatever the fuck "horrorcore" is defined as, The Pick The Sickle & The Shovel definitely does not fall under that banner.

Mindbender trying to act like he knows about rap music again.
Aiight, chill. Just saying that the 2nd Gravediggaz album wasn't that great in comparison from what I remebered. 1st one was the shit and it set more of the standard of horrorcore.

This is definitely true. The first Gravediggaz was a fucking awesome record. The "Pick..." album was one some bullshit, though. I don't even think Prince Paul produced more than two tracks on that album, the rest of them were all low-budget RZA knock-offs like Goldfinghaz.

Anything that is defined as "horrorcore" that is not 6 Feet Deep or that wasn't released on the Rap-A-Lot label is fucking queer, though.

Mo Cheeks · Post by **Mo Cheeks** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:09 pm

Nathan Blaze · Post by **Nathan Blaze** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:22 pm

what the fuck

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:44 pm

Echo Leader wrote:
ardamus wrote:
Echo Leader wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:
HomeSkillet wrote:When does horrorcore go right?

yeah, that was 1st album was hard to top
No.

My point is, whatever the fuck "horrorcore" is defined as, The Pick The Sickle & The Shovel definitely does not fall under that banner.

Mindbender trying to act like he knows about rap music again.

oh, so you feel smarter now? you're fucking pathetic, let me just clarify that for you.

if Gravediggaz isn't horrorcore, what is? sure they lightened up for this album, but jesus christ, you are an idiot if you think there isn't raw brutality in songs like 'The Night The Earth Cried' or 'The Unexplained'. Ignore me or fuck off. Pretty please.

MD · Post by MD » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:49 pm

I'm goin Sam on it
I'm goin Sam on it
I'm goin Sam on it
I'm goin Sam on it
I'm goin Sam on it
I'm goin Sam on it
I'm goin Sam on it
I'm goin Sam on it

I got this shit stuck in my head now.

WHERE THE FUCK'S MY MEAT CLEAVER?!?!?!?!?

Echo Leader · Post by **Echo Leader** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:05 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote:
oh, so you feel smarter now? you're fucking pathetic, let me just clarify that for you.

if Gravediggaz isn't horrorcore, what is? sure they lightened up for this album, but jesus christ, you are an idiot if you think there isn't raw brutality in songs like 'The Night The Earth Cried' or 'The Unexplained'. Ignore me or fuck off. Pretty please.

No. I don't feel smarter for pointing out blatant, obvious fact.

6 Feet Deep and The Pick, The Sickle, & The Shovel couldn't be more different from each other. It's not just the beats, it's the theme of the album as a whole. They completely dropped the whole "I'ma drag your brains through the gravel" vibe and started rapping almost exclusively about Five Percenter philosophy, which they had kinda touched on in the first record but hadn't really run with it.

There is no raw brutality in "The Night The Earth Cried."

The Night The Earth Cried wrote: I want a Queen on every continent
So I can escape the government
Flee my residence, settle in
I'm militant minded, brilliant rhyme whiz
The time is now for me to shine, kids are innocent
Blinded, society got to be reminded of my diary
'Cause tragically I carry thee
Misery of centuries that's sent to me
Not coincidentally intentionally, 'cause mentally I represent the key
But it's a double-edged sword see
Tryin' to be godly is hard
Especially in poverty's backyard
Where violence has taken over
Free enterprise and lies is idolized
'Cause its deep inside with Allah, God or Jehovah
To guide the lost tribe
You're forced to reside on the north side
Babylon is never penalized
For bein' offsides, so many lost lives
I wonder how long before the herd dies
Today I heard the Earth cry for the first time
It was the worst time
It was the worst time
The way I heard the Earth cry

vs.

1-800-Suicide wrote: Six fucking devils stepped up playing brave, God
had the fucking nerve to try and enter my graveyard
I'm the Ryzarector, be my sacrifice
Commit suicide and I'll bring you back to life
The first was convinced
Stuck a water hose in his mouth at full blast so his head can explode
Second said "Hmmmm, that's good but I can top it"
Put an ax up to his head and then he chopped it
Blood shot out in every direction
The rest didn't know what to do, I made suggestions
Put a slug in your mug, overdose on a drug
Wet your hair stick a knife in the plug
Or be like Richard Pryor set your balls on fire
Better yet go hang yourself with a barbed wire
Three and Four fell deep into the spell and
Ran to the zoo, locked themselves in a lion's den
Number Five said "It ain't worth being alive!"
Smoked a dust joint, mixed it with cynaide
The only one to escape was number Six
He went home
Sat in the tub and slit his wrists
Yeah, more graves to dig. Goodbye
There's no need to cry...
... cause we all die

But I'm a pale-faced caucazoid germ so what do I know.

Echo Leader · Post by **Echo Leader** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:05 pm

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Got the trap goin' Sam.

odium-LSC · Post by **odium-LSC** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:24 pm

Echo Leader wrote:
Mo Cheeks wrote:<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Q-pVhsIKL6g&hl ... ram><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Q-pVhsIKL6g&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

Got the trap goin' Sam.

senorhaha · Post by **senorhaha** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:16 pm

battlecatmeowstab212 wrote: whose MySpace page bears the warning, "I hate everything and I hate everyone."

this is great cause that used to be my mantra, the other way around tho "i hate everyone, i hate everything"

glad i didnt turn out like this fag

employee, this is your que to chime in haha

HomeSkillet · Post by **HomeSkillet** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:22 pm

I've heard much worse rap than "going sam on it" hmm

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:37 pm

Echo Leader wrote:
Mindbender Futurama wrote:
oh, so you feel smarter now? you're fucking pathetic, let me just clarify that for you.

if Gravediggaz isn't horrorcore, what is? sure they lightened up for this album, but jesus christ, you are an idiot if you think there isn't raw brutality in songs like 'The Night The Earth Cried' or 'The Unexplained'. Ignore me or fuck off. Pretty please.
No. I don't feel smarter for pointing out blatant, obvious fact.

6 Feet Deep and The Pick, The Sickle, & The Shovel couldn't be more different from each other. It's not just the beats, it's the theme of the album as a whole. They completely dropped the whole "I'ma drag your brains through the gravel" vibe and started rapping almost exclusively about Five Percenter philosophy, which they had kinda touched on in the first record but hadn't really run with it.

There is no raw brutality in "The Night The Earth Cried."

The Night The Earth Cried wrote: I want a Queen on every continent
So I can escape the government
Flee my residence, settle in
I'm militant minded, brilliant rhyme whiz
The time is now for me to shine, kids are innocent
Blinded, society got to be reminded of my diary
'Cause tragically I carry thee
Misery of centuries that's sent to me
Not coincidentally intentionally, 'cause mentally I represent the key
But it's a double-edged sword see
Tryin' to be godly is hard
Especially in poverty's backyard
Where violence has taken over
Free enterprise and lies is idolized
'Cause its deep inside with Allah, God or Jehovah
To guide the lost tribe
You're forced to reside on the north side
Babylon is never penalized
For bein' offsides, so many lost lives
I wonder how long before the herd dies
Today I heard the Earth cry for the first time
It was the worst time
It was the worst time
The way I heard the Earth cry
vs.

1-800-Suicide wrote: Six fucking devils stepped up playing brave, God
had the fucking nerve to try and enter my graveyard
I'm the Ryzarector, be my sacrifice
Commit suicide and I'll bring you back to life
The first was convinced
Stuck a water hose in his mouth at full blast so his head can explode
Second said "Hmmmm, that's good but I can top it"
Put an ax up to his head and then he chopped it
Blood shot out in every direction
The rest didn't know what to do, I made suggestions
Put a slug in your mug, overdose on a drug
Wet your hair stick a knife in the plug
Or be like Richard Pryor set your balls on fire
Better yet go hang yourself with a barbed wire
Three and Four fell deep into the spell and
Ran to the zoo, locked themselves in a lion's den
Number Five said "It ain't worth being alive!"
Smoked a dust joint, mixed it with cynaide
The only one to escape was number Six
He went home
Sat in the tub and slit his wrists
Yeah, more graves to dig. Goodbye
There's no need to cry...
... cause we all die

But I'm a pale-faced caucazoid germ so what do I know.

that makes sense now, I thought you were saying Gravediggaz wasn't horrorcore..

HomeSkillet · Post by **HomeSkillet** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:04 pm

^^ I mean Gravediggaz was to horrorcore what the Ramones were to punk rock - it went places, most of them not so good.

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