Non Phixion - The Future Is Now

Kick a Dope Verse · Post by **Kick a Dope Verse** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:16 am

What does Philaflava think?

Personally I think it's the only good thing to have come out of that entire camp. Few duds, sure, but on the whole it's what I'd call a modern classic.

somebody cool · Post by **somebody cool** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:26 am

the q-unique album is the best album to come out of the camp

the album is good, overated by white kids on the internet, but its a good "underground" album. i think necro should've done more beats, i like the dusty/raw sound he brought w/ songs like "black helicopters" and "say goodbye to yesterday".

i think some nonphixion songs from the earlier years shouldve been on here and it would've been way better. songs from "the past present and future is now" like "they got", "14 years of rap", "no tomorrow", "i shot reagan", "gangsta rap", "four w's" and "the 5 boros".

^^those couldve been on there over some of the other songs (like the doom joint or the rock remix of "cia is trying to kill me"

Kick a Dope Verse · Post by **Kick a Dope Verse** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:38 am

somebody cool wrote:the q-unique album is the best album to come out of the camp

the album is good, overated by white kids on the internet, but its a good "underground" album. i think necro should've done more beats, i like the dusty/raw sound he brought w/ songs like "black helicopters" and "say goodbye to yesterday".

i think some nonphixion songs from the earlier years shouldve been on here and it would've been way better. songs from "the past present and future is now" like "they got", "14 years of rap", "no tomorrow", "i shot reagan", "gangsta rap", "four w's" and "the 5 boros".

^^those couldve been on there over some of the other songs (like the doom joint or the rock remix of "cia is trying to kill me"

Word, got all those joints.

The C.I.A. Is Still Trying to Kill Me is horrid, definitely wish they left it off.

Out of all the albums on that hardcore/sci-fi tip, would you say it's the best?

sean · Post by **sean** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:41 am

^^^somebody cool, in your sig, that verse that starts at 1:04 makes me think i need to check for more of his shit, any suggestions?

Neuro · Post by **Neuro** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:44 am

very dope album

the green cd/dvd is dope as well

i wish they would have finished their last album

Goretex- The Art of Dying is very very ill

Kick a Dope Verse · Post by **Kick a Dope Verse** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:29 am

Neuro wrote:very dope album

the green cd/dvd is dope as well

i wish they would have finished their last album

Goretex- The Art of Dying is very very ill

I saw the track listing for The Green CD/DVD a while back and it seemed like a compilation of stuff I already had. Is there anything exclusive on it? Also, any idea what the DVD's like? I'm very much into that sort of thing.

Listening to The C.I.A. Is Still Trying to Kill Me again. Christ, it's worse than Rip Rock.

blessingindisguise · Post by **blessingindisguise** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:36 am

Dope album and an underground classic imo. I had the green cover mixtape compilation thing they did before that got me into them. Glad they used the illmatic trio of large professor, primo, and pete rock too.

Kick a Dope Verse · Post by **Kick a Dope Verse** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:39 am

blessingindisguise wrote:Dope album and an underground classic imo. I had the green cover mixtape compilation thing they did before that got me into them. Glad they used the illmatic trio of large professor, primo, and pete rock too.

Word, they really got on their shit. We Are the Future reminds me of Nas - Star Wars. Actually, when I first heard Star Wars I was able to instantly ID the producer based on that.

"Analysin' the anguish on a fiend's face."

Yohan · Post by **Yohan** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:37 am

Was the album that got me into Hip-Hop period, during my teen years. After that, I discovered pretty much everything I love now. Save for a few tracks, I think most of the album is pretty good. Underground classic probably, but nowadays, not my sort of thing anymore.

But I have to give it credit for sucking me into the world of Hip-Hop.

Kick a Dope Verse · Post by **Kick a Dope Verse** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:08 am

Yohan wrote:Was the album that got me into Hip-Hop period, during my teen years. After that, I discovered pretty much everything I love now. Save for a few tracks, I think most of the album is pretty good. Underground classic probably, but nowadays, not my sort of thing anymore.

But I have to give it credit for sucking me into the world of Hip-Hop.

Word, I think it has that type of appeal. Just out of random interest, what's more your steez these days?

Yohan · Post by **Yohan** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:17 am

Kick a Dope Verse wrote:
Yohan wrote:Was the album that got me into Hip-Hop period, during my teen years. After that, I discovered pretty much everything I love now. Save for a few tracks, I think most of the album is pretty good. Underground classic probably, but nowadays, not my sort of thing anymore.

But I have to give it credit for sucking me into the world of Hip-Hop.
Word, I think it has that type of appeal. Just out of random interest, what's more your steez these days?

I started out with the shallow Hip-Hop, when I was like 14, Tupac and Biggie and whatnot. Then a period of dark, underground Non-Phixion camp Hip-Hop and eventually I discovered Illmatic which made me more interested in that type of music.

Usually listen to old school Hip-Hop, or some new shit like Jay Electronica, Joe Budden (pause), Crooked I, Blu, things like that. That Non-Phixion, mad-at-the-world phase is gone. Call it puberty haha.

Kick a Dope Verse · Post by **Kick a Dope Verse** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:27 am

Yohan wrote:
Kick a Dope Verse wrote:
Yohan wrote:Was the album that got me into Hip-Hop period, during my teen years. After that, I discovered pretty much everything I love now. Save for a few tracks, I think most of the album is pretty good. Underground classic probably, but nowadays, not my sort of thing anymore.

But I have to give it credit for sucking me into the world of Hip-Hop.
Word, I think it has that type of appeal. Just out of random interest, what's more your steez these days?
I started out with the shallow Hip-Hop, when I was like 14, Tupac and Biggie and whatnot. Then a period of dark, underground Non-Phixion camp Hip-Hop and eventually I discovered Illmatic which made me more interested in that type of music.

Usually listen to old school Hip-Hop, or some new shit like Jay Electronica, Joe Budden (pause), Crooked I, Blu, things like that. That Non-Phixion, mad-at-the-world phase is gone. Call it puberty haha.

I can't co-sign anything that deems Ready to Die shallow but I will say that Uncle Howie Records has a fanbase rife with abhorrent angsty whiggers and that old school hip hop is greater than, which, ironically, is what helps make The Future Is Now shine.

Yohan · Post by **Yohan** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:38 am

Kick a Dope Verse wrote:
Yohan wrote:
Kick a Dope Verse wrote:
Yohan wrote:Was the album that got me into Hip-Hop period, during my teen years. After that, I discovered pretty much everything I love now. Save for a few tracks, I think most of the album is pretty good. Underground classic probably, but nowadays, not my sort of thing anymore.

But I have to give it credit for sucking me into the world of Hip-Hop.
Word, I think it has that type of appeal. Just out of random interest, what's more your steez these days?
I started out with the shallow Hip-Hop, when I was like 14, Tupac and Biggie and whatnot. Then a period of dark, underground Non-Phixion camp Hip-Hop and eventually I discovered Illmatic which made me more interested in that type of music.

Usually listen to old school Hip-Hop, or some new shit like Jay Electronica, Joe Budden (pause), Crooked I, Blu, things like that. That Non-Phixion, mad-at-the-world phase is gone. Call it puberty haha.
I can't co-sign anything that deems Ready to Die shallow but I will say that Uncle Howie Records has a fanbase rife with abhorrent angsty whiggers and that old school hip hop is greater than, which, ironically, is what helps make The Future Is Now shine.

Ready To Die isn't shallow, no, but that wasn't generally what I was listening to as a teen. Let's just leave it at that

Huldrich Bullsh!t · Post by **Huldrich Bullsh!t** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:48 am

it was pretty good when it came out. a few tracks sucked but it was pretty good. havent listened to it in years and doubt i will ever listen to it on purpose again

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:24 am

a great album at the time with stellar production. album has aged very poorly though.

Conspiracy · Post by **Conspiracy** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:23 am

i like "Cult Leader" and "Strange Universe" with MF Doom and "Futurama"

those are the best underground songs since Leaders of the New School

[Non-Phixion, the white L.O.N.S in a different way/sence of things]
necro is always a favorite producer

ill bill got the revolutionary rebel lyricalism
Mr. Hyde and Goretex are ok as MCs...kinda plain

the cover was cool , too....

the messages are still relevant and important, yet LaCokaNostra continues

so the legacy will live on.....

"The Sexorcist" got a song called 'black hole'....in-fucking-goddamn-credible
ILL BILL FOR MAYOR

CONSPIRACY

Tommy Bunz · Post by **Tommy Bunz** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:41 am

Philaflava wrote:a great album at the time with stellar production. album has aged very poorly though.

Yohan · Post by **Yohan** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:03 am

Conspiracy wrote:Non-Phixion, the white L.O.N.S in a different way/sence of things

Comedy Quaddafi · Post by **Comedy Quaddafi** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:22 am

Sabac kinda ruins some of the songs with his Che Guevara gheyness.

Ill Bill was actually kinda good up until this release.

Goretex is easily the best mc in the group/camp IMO. Hes the only one with a good voice and a durable delivery.

About half of the album really fucken bangs. Co-sign No Tomorrow should've been there. I like Dust too, great song. Let's be honest tho, these guys are fucken cornballs of the highest order.

LOL now I feel like downloading this shit. I lost my copy, lol yes, I actually bought this with my paper-route doe.

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:36 am

Kick a Dope Verse wrote:
blessingindisguise wrote:Dope album and an underground classic imo. I had the green cover mixtape compilation thing they did before that got me into them. Glad they used the illmatic trio of large professor, primo, and pete rock too.
Word, they really got on their shit. We Are the Future reminds me of Nas - Star Wars. Actually, when I first heard Star Wars I was able to instantly ID the producer based on that.

"Analysin' the anguish on a fiend's face."

Large Pro sampled the same David Axelrod track for both songs and also
for "Hip Hop" from his own album,"1st Class".
It's from Axelrod's "Seriously Deep" album. I forgot the name of the
song.

I liked more than half the album when it dropped. Not so much now.
I think Goretex is nice with his, the Mexican Herb McGruff.

Their Green promo/album cassette, that was pretty much their
shelved Geffen album from the 90's, was dope.
I'm pretty sure it's basically the same as that Green DVD/CD that came
out eventually.

Comedy Quaddafi · Post by **Comedy Quaddafi** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:46 am

Axelrod is my 2nd favorite jew, right behind Seinfeld.

The Iron Sheik · Post by **The Iron Sheik** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:57 pm

this album is near classic, really great production and solid performances

Neuro · Post by **Neuro** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:21 pm

i dunno man ill bill is still ill

the young ill bill was my favorite but hes still awesome

while there are some corny type stuff on his new album i believe it to be a dope album

or maybe the album cover tricked me?

haha

i havent listened to La Coka Nostra much , ill bill is clearly the best emcee in that group or least the one you are waiting for to rap in the songs

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:38 pm

Comedy Quaddafi wrote:Axelrod is my 2nd favorite jew, right behind Seinfeld.

Did't know he was teh jew.
Gonna have to make him my second fav jew, too.
Only behind

and probably a few other comedians I can't
think of right now.

Y@k Bollocks · Post by **Y@k Bollocks** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:53 pm

somebody cool wrote:i think some nonphixion songs from the earlier years shouldve been on here and it would've been way better. songs from "the past present and future is now" like "they got", "14 years of rap", "no tomorrow", "i shot reagan", "gangsta rap", "four w's" and "the 5 boros".

Agreed. Non-Phixions schtick is a little corny, but I still like the early 12"s a lot, and this album is decent.

I met Ill Bill once, surprisingly nice guy!

DIE

Kick a Dope Verse · Post by **Kick a Dope Verse** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:53 pm

Yohan wrote:
Conspiracy wrote:Non-Phixion, the white L.O.N.S in a different way/sence of things

That is seriously

. I mean, you can explain, but...

Verge wrote:
Kick a Dope Verse wrote:
blessingindisguise wrote:Dope album and an underground classic imo. I had the green cover mixtape compilation thing they did before that got me into them. Glad they used the illmatic trio of large professor, primo, and pete rock too.
Word, they really got on their shit. We Are the Future reminds me of Nas - Star Wars. Actually, when I first heard Star Wars I was able to instantly ID the producer based on that.

"Analysin' the anguish on a fiend's face."
Large Pro sampled the same David Axelrod track for both songs and also
for "Hip Hop" from his own album,"1st Class".
It's from Axelrod's "Seriously Deep" album. I forgot the name of the
song.

I liked more than half the album when it dropped. Not so much now.
I think Goretex is nice with his, the Mexican Herb McGruff.

Their Green promo/album cassette, that was pretty much their
shelved Geffen album from the 90's, was dope.
I'm pretty sure it's basically the same as that Green DVD/CD that came
out eventually.

Yo, you should really get on Soulseek more. I'm Espirando.

Comedy Quaddafi wrote:Axelrod is my 2nd favorite jew, right behind Seinfeld.

Word, Axelrod is ill. Does Holy Thursday rank as one of the most sampled songs in hip hop history?

I feel the need to mention the fact that this album's titles are ridiculous. The Future Is Now, Futurama, There Is No Future, We Are the Future--just doesn't make any sense. Even the name Non Phixion, haha.

ackbar · Post by **ackbar** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:54 pm

pretty great album

i like some of their non-non-phixino stuff here & there.. but only select tracks ('what's wrong with bill' for example)

Kick a Dope Verse · Post by **Kick a Dope Verse** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:57 pm

Y@k Bollocks wrote:
somebody cool wrote:i think some nonphixion songs from the earlier years shouldve been on here and it would've been way better. songs from "the past present and future is now" like "they got", "14 years of rap", "no tomorrow", "i shot reagan", "gangsta rap", "four w's" and "the 5 boros".
Agreed. Non-Phixions schtick is a little corny, but I still like the early 12"s a lot, and this album is decent.

I met Ill Bill once, surprisingly nice guy!

DIE

Word, VLSs be hot.

Make sure you watch around 3:00, guy in the tall T's a clown:

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aeokq · Post by **aeokq** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:00 pm

Not a classic but damn good. Only a few average beats/songs. The apocalyptical rebellious political subject matter can get somewhat monotonous, but I can dig it. Their deliveries can also get tiresome, but I am just nitpicking. Real dope album and I could put it in the top 25 of the decade in the 20-25 range.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:04 pm

extreme awkwardness in that video above.