Best producer on the mic VRS. best MC behind the boards...

cenzi · Post by **cenzi** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:29 pm

Unkut.com had a three bracket poll looking for best producer on the mic.

these were their results.

# Q-Tip (22%, 144 Votes)
# The RZA (18%, 118 Votes)
# DOOM (18%, 117 Votes)
# Kanye West (16%, 100 Votes)
# Diamond D (13%, 85 Votes)
# Wildcard: Pimp C (7%, 42 Votes)
# Havoc (6%, 38 Votes)

But some dude commented that there was a big difference between Best producer on the mic and the best MC behind the boards.

The best MC with production skills, in my opinion, is KRS. He is behind Mad Lion's beats (I thin all of Real Ting), some of BDP's beats (I'm Still#1) and some raw Channel Live beats (Mad Izm), plus random dope shit for Poor Righteous Teachers, Chubb Rock and Queen Latifah.

Now on the other hand, Producers that pick up the mic to rap... I gotta give it to Kanye. Fuck. I hate the dude, but, he does come real nice on the mic, no faggot.

If anyone can confirm that Lord Finesse didn't have a ghostwriter, than I might swing my vote his way.

Yohan · Post by **Yohan** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:32 pm

Lord Finesse, Kanye, Diamond D and Extra P were/are all excellent producers with skills on the microphone. To some degree debatable, heard many different opinions.

I don't doubt that KRS-One is the best MC with production skills.

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:33 pm

Lord Finesse didn't have a ghostwriter. Where the fuck did you get that idea from?

cenzi · Post by **cenzi** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:34 pm

Yohan wrote:Lord Finesse, Kanye, Diamond D and Extra P were/are all excellent producers with skills on the microphone. To some degree debatable, heard many different opinions.

I don't doubt that KRS-One is the best MC with production skills.

than who? Which MC makes better beats?

Yohan · Post by **Yohan** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:35 pm

cenzi wrote:
Yohan wrote:Lord Finesse, Kanye, Diamond D and Extra P were/are all excellent producers with skills on the microphone. To some degree debatable, heard many different opinions.

I don't doubt that KRS-One is the best MC with production skills.
than who? Which MC makes better beats?

Either my writing is :bork:

or your reading comprehension is.

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:35 pm

cenzi wrote:
Yohan wrote:Lord Finesse, Kanye, Diamond D and Extra P were/are all excellent producers with skills on the microphone. To some degree debatable, heard many different opinions.

I don't doubt that KRS-One is the best MC with production skills.
than who? Which MC makes better beats?

Fizzy Womack?

cenzi · Post by **cenzi** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:37 pm

Yohan wrote:
cenzi wrote:
Yohan wrote:Lord Finesse, Kanye, Diamond D and Extra P were/are all excellent producers with skills on the microphone. To some degree debatable, heard many different opinions.

I don't doubt that KRS-One is the best MC with production skills.
than who? Which MC makes better beats?
Either my writing is or your reading comprehension is.

my reading comprehension is. fixed now. thank you.

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:38 pm

Yohan · Post by **Yohan** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:39 pm

Thun wrote:
cenzi wrote:
Yohan wrote:Lord Finesse, Kanye, Diamond D and Extra P were/are all excellent producers with skills on the microphone. To some degree debatable, heard many different opinions.

I don't doubt that KRS-One is the best MC with production skills.
than who? Which MC makes better beats?
Fizzy Womack?

Really?

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:41 pm

Might it be possible that there are actually three categories to consider:

Best Producer on the mic

Best Emcee behind the boards

Best Rapper/Producer (someone equally invested in both practices, like say Lord Finesse or Large Professor)

???

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:41 pm

Yohan wrote:
Thun wrote:
cenzi wrote:
Yohan wrote:Lord Finesse, Kanye, Diamond D and Extra P were/are all excellent producers with skills on the microphone. To some degree debatable, heard many different opinions.

I don't doubt that KRS-One is the best MC with production skills.
than who? Which MC makes better beats?
Fizzy Womack?
Really?

Why not? KRS has tons of weak beats.

Yohan · Post by **Yohan** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:43 pm

Thun wrote:
Yohan wrote:
Thun wrote:
cenzi wrote:
Yohan wrote:Lord Finesse, Kanye, Diamond D and Extra P were/are all excellent producers with skills on the microphone. To some degree debatable, heard many different opinions.

I don't doubt that KRS-One is the best MC with production skills.
than who? Which MC makes better beats?
Fizzy Womack?
Really?
Why not? KRS has tons of weak beats.

True, but he also had phenomenal beats.

cenzi · Post by **cenzi** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:44 pm

Thun wrote:
Yohan wrote:
Thun wrote:
cenzi wrote:
Yohan wrote:Lord Finesse, Kanye, Diamond D and Extra P were/are all excellent producers with skills on the microphone. To some degree debatable, heard many different opinions.

I don't doubt that KRS-One is the best MC with production skills.
than who? Which MC makes better beats?
Fizzy Womack?
Really?
Why not? KRS has tons of weak beats.

so does Fizzy. C'mon man...

KRS's track record vrs. Fizzy's ??

you must be mixing personal tastes. I mean, to me Lynch Hung is my favourite MC making beats, but he cant be the best.

Roy Johnson · Post by **Roy Johnson** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:53 pm

Yeah, KRS has produced a lot of dope beats. I was actually thinking about putting together his production discography.

My favorite producer on the mic is the Large Professor.

Markshot · Post by **Markshot** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:55 pm

A-Plus, King Tee

Quotashun · Post by **Quotashun** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:02 pm

Scarface has made a lot of dope beats... I'd definitely consider him one of the better MCs behind the boards.

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:04 pm

Quotashun wrote:Scarface has made a lot of dope beats... I'd definitely consider him one of the better MCs behind the boards.

A lot of people will agree with you for internet fashion reasons.

Dusty Fingers · Post by **Dusty Fingers** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:08 pm

Roy Johnson wrote: My favorite producer on the mic is the Large Professor.

this

ackbar · Post by **ackbar** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:10 pm

i doubt he'd be my #1 choice.. but scarface has definitely made lots of good beats

AWAE · Post by **AWAE** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:11 pm

Cash Rulz · Post by **Cash Rulz** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:50 pm

Kanye is an emcee first. He got into producing because he needed beats.

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:08 pm

Cash Rulz wrote:Kanye is an emcee first. He got into producing because he needed beats.

He was making beats in the mid 90's, was he emcee'ing?
I'm not being smug, it's an honest question.

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:18 pm

Guys, in all fairness, let's end the debate now....

cenzi · Post by **cenzi** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:19 pm

who is that?

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:20 pm

cenzi wrote:who is that?

Boac.

cenzi · Post by **cenzi** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:23 pm

Employee wrote:
cenzi wrote:who is that?
Boac.

who's Boac?

Remo the Great · Post by **Remo the Great** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:34 pm

Thun wrote:Might it be possible that there are actually three categories to consider:

Best Producer on the mic

Best Emcee behind the boards

Best Rapper/Producer (someone equally invested in both practices, like say Lord Finesse or Large Professor)

???

I would agree with this. People tend to forget that even though Kanye came in the game as a producer, he's ALWAYS been a rapper. He was a rapper first. It's just way easier to get people to pay your for beats than to get them to pay you to rap.

cenzi · Post by **cenzi** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:37 pm

Thun wrote:
Best Rapper/Producer (someone equally invested in both practices, like say Lord Finesse or Large Professor)

???

Cold 187um impacted the west coast in a BIG way. He pretty much soundscaped what the next 15 years would sound like after he finished Black Mafia Life.

odium-LSC · Post by **odium-LSC** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:43 pm

no mention of DJ Quik?

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:46 pm

cenzi, i'm locking your other thread. you're saying the same thing in both. keep it all in one.