Guru R.I.P. (confirmed)

M A T L O C K · Post by **M A T L O C K** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:37 pm

Oh.

Didn't know of this new Solar then. Damn I'm old. I guess I just automatically associated French people with homosexuality.

Freezy Pazzy · Post by **Freezy Pazzy** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:40 am

That last line was funny, but you betta watch your mouth if you ever come to France one day... Ask Dame Dash about Frenchies, he'll tell you we ain't no joke when it comes to ass-whupping. ;-)

And oh yeah, your freestyle over the "Grindin" beat is crazy, makes me wanna hear more.

Req · Post by **Req** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:46 am

sean wrote:
M A T L O C K wrote:French rap dude
it's not the same solar. the french dude is a different dude than the dude guru has been working with.

to make matters confusing, i think Guru actually worked with the French dude before too, on the first Jazmatazz maybe?

Req · Post by **Req** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:47 am

Freezy Pazzy wrote:Ask Dame Dash about Frenchies, he'll tell you we ain't no joke when it comes to ass-whupping. ;-)

How about we ask the Germans instead?

LOLzzzzzzzz

Freezy Pazzy · Post by **Freezy Pazzy** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:14 am

Lol you can go there if you want, I'm mixed and my grand mother was German. ;-)

But for real, the French youth is outta control these last 10/15 years. Sometimes it feels like kids out there are competiting against each other to see who'll be able to make the WORST shit ever... And trust me, they go real far. :-(
No wonder why French rap has been so thugged out recently, it bores me to death but whatever... I guess that's what people wanna hear nowadays, and since English is my second language, I don't really give a flying' fuck about what they be doin' round here as far as music goes.

But to answer your previous question, you were right : Guru did a joint with MC Solaar on the first Jazzmatazz album, it was called "Le bien, le mal" ("The good, the bad").

sean · Post by **sean** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:22 am

Freezy Pazzy wrote:But to answer your previous question, you were right : Guru did a joint with MC Solaar on the first Jazzmatazz album, it was called "Le bien, le mal" ("The good, the bad").

i also remember a solaar record from the mid-90's that was pretty cool to play when chilling with a dame. no dash.
i forget what it was called though.
beats were kinda on some jazzy trip hop shit.

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:39 am

Freezy Pazzy · Post by **Freezy Pazzy** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:00 am

sean wrote:i also remember a solaar record from the mid-90's that was pretty cool to play when chilling with a dame. no dash.
i forget what it was called though.
beats were kinda on some jazzy trip hop shit.

Honestly, Solaar's first 3 or 4 albums were really dope.
I think you heard maybe "Qui s

M A T L O C K · Post by **M A T L O C K** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:09 am

Freezy, glad you like brotha'...more to come real soon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RqZI0UPAes

http://rapidshare.com/files/373118152/0

I remember the French MC Solaar, just figured this was the same dude.

I actually used to work with a pretty tough Frenchman. My apologies to any French people or queers I may have offended. ; )

Freezy Pazzy · Post by **Freezy Pazzy** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:01 pm

M A T L O C K wrote:Freezy, glad you like brotha'...more to come real soon.

You're welcome! And thanks for the rapidshare link, I'mma be bumpin' that on my way to work. ;-)

M A T L O C K wrote:My apologies to any French people or queers I may have offended. ; )

No worries as far as "Froggies" are concerned, I'm the first one to make fun of my country... But I can't talk on behalf of queers though lol!

DLG · Post by **DLG** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:16 am

the streets (twitter) are saying guru has died.

DLG · Post by **DLG** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:17 am

http://www.factmag.com/2010/04/20/gang- ... 1966-2010/

Gang Starrגs Guru, 1966-2010

Legendary New York rapper Guru has lost his battle with cancer, according to the DJ Premier blog.

גGuru has passed away yesterday morning (April 19) after a long battle with cancer.

According to Solar, Guru suffered from the malicious illness for over a year and after numerous special treatments under the supervision of medical specialists failed, the legendary MC succumbed to the disease. Guru always tried to keep this harrowing diagnosis in private but in early 2010 he had to admit himself to hospital due to serious effects caused by the disease.

Since the onset of illness, Guru tried to live a גnormalג life as an influential and outstanding musician, loving father, family man, and best friend. Doctors encouraged Guru to think positive that the cancer can be arrested and that a full recovery is possible but several special treatments including hard hitting chemotherapies failed.

While in hospital with terminal cancer, Guru wrote a letter, which was provided by Solar, to his fans addressing his illness, his shining music career, his family and loved ones.

גI, Guru, am writing this letter to my fans, friends and loved ones around the world. I have had a long battle with cancer and have succumbed to the disease. I have suffered with this illness for over a year. I have exhausted all medical options. I have a non-profit organization called Each One Counts dedicated to carrying on my charitable work on behalf of abused and disadvantaged children from around the world and also to educate and research a cure for this terrible disease that took my life. I write this with tears in my eyes, not of sorrow but of joy for what a wonderful life I have enjoyed and how many great people I have had the pleasure of meeting,ג read the official Guru statement.

גMy loyal best friend, partner and brother, Solar, has been at my side through it all and has been made my health proxy by myself on all matters relating to myself. He has been with me by my side on my many hospital stays, operations, doctors visits and stayed with me at my home and cared for me when I could not care for myself. Solar and his family is my family and I love them dearly and I expect my family, friends, and fans to respect that, regardless to anybodyגs feelings on the matter. It is my wish that counts. This being said I am survived by the love of my life, my sun KC, who I trust will be looked after by Solar and his family as their own. Any awards or tributes should be accepted, organized approved by Solar on behalf myself and my son until he is of age to except on his own.ג

The statement reads on, גI do not wish my ex-DJ to have anything to do with my name likeness, events tributes etc. connected in anyway to my situation including any use of my name or circumstance for any reason and I have instructed my lawyers to enforce this. I had nothing to do with him in life for over 7 years and want nothing to do with him in death. Solar has my life story and is well informed on my family situation, as well as the real reason for separating from my ex-DJ. As the sole founder of GangStarr, I am very proud of what GangStarr has meant to the music world and fans. I equally am proud of my Jazzmatazz series and as the father of Hip-Hop/Jazz. I am most proud of my leadership and pioneering efforts on Jazzmatazz 4 for reinvigorating the Hip-Hop/Jazz genre in a time when music quality has reached an all time low. Solar and I have toured in places that I have never been before with GangStarr or Jazzmatatazz and we gained a reputation for being the best on the planet at Hip-Hop/Jazz, as well as the biggest and most influential Hip-Hop/Jazz record with Jazzmatazz 4 of the decade to now. The work I have done with Solar represents a legacy far beyond its time. And we as a team were not afraid to push the envelope. To me this is what true artists do! As men of honor we stood tall in the face of small mindedness, greed, and ignorance. As we fought for music and integrity at the cost of not earning millions and for this I will always be happy and proud, and would like to thank the million fans who have seen us perform over the years from all over the world. The work I have done with Solar represents a legacy far beyond its time and is my most creative and experimental to date. I hope that our music will receive the attention it deserves as it is some of the best work I have done and represents some of the best years of my life.ג

Guru, born Keith Elam, rose to fame in the 80גs as the founder of the legendary rap group GangStarr. The group released the classic single Words I Manifest followed by their critically acclaimed debut album No More Mr. Nice Guy (1989) and the classic album Step In The Arena (1991). Guru was the first artist to truly blend Hip-Hop with Live Jazz beginning in 1993, and seeing the vast influences his Jazzmatazz concept has had on the industry, it is clear that Guruגs musical contributions have been way ahead of their time. Guru has worked with such great artists as Herbie Hancock, Isaac Hayes, Donald Byrd, Ramsey Lewis, Roy Ayers, Chaka Kahn, Branford Marsalis, David Sanborn, Bob James, Erykah Badu, The Roots, Common, Angie Stone, Jamiroquai, Macy Gray and Damien Marley, to name a few. Despite the fact that Guru isnגt hailing from New York, he is noted as a pioneer of the New York sound and true lyrical Hip-Hop. Guru later on joined forces with hit producer Solar and formed his label 7 Grand Records with the goal to keep גrealג Hip-Hop alive.

Guruגs longtime partner, Solar, issues an official statement about the lost of the legendary MC which you can read below:

גThe world has lost one of the best MCs and Hip-Hop icons of all time ג my loyal best friend, partner, and brother, Guru! Guru has been battling cancer for well over a year and has lost his battle! This is a matter that Guru wanted private until he could beat it but tragically this did not happen. The cancer took him. Now the world has lost a great man and a true genius. For the fans that reached out with love and support, I canגt tell you how much that meant to Guru and myself. Guru prepared this letter [read above] while he was in the hospital for the fans. I hope now that Guru has moved on to a better place! Guru is a great Black American Hero and should always be remembered as such and he is much more that just a Hip-Hop icon ג he has changed the world for the better. I salute my fallen brother Guru! He will be missed tremendously!ג Solar stated.

FURY · Post by **FURY** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:25 am

RIP

blessingindisguise · Post by **blessingindisguise** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:35 am

R.I.P. damn shame. A damn shame.

iCONtheMicKing · Post by **iCONtheMicKing** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:44 am

While I'm partially inclined to believe Guru may actually be dead...

I'm fully inclined to believe that statement released on his behalf is absolutely false.

I await some sort of confirmation from DJ Premier's face on a video or voice on the radio.

step one · Post by **step one** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:55 am

iCONtheMicKing wrote:
I'm fully inclined to believe that statement released on his behalf is absolutely false.

first thing I thought aswell. the statement focuses more on bigging up Solar than anything else. Big Shug and Bump Knuckles need to get at him and have a quiet word.

all that said, RIP Guru. Shame he ended his career on a bit of artistic and creative low but he rhymed on so many classics its ridiculous.

Mark 563 · Post by **Mark 563** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:59 am

RIP. This is some seriously sad news.

The official statements posted above are just bizarre, especially the stuff pertaining to Solar, and how he's gonna be handling Guru's Son's assets. Not to mention his comments about the music the 2 of them created.

Also, the stuff about Premo seems properly off-key.

"I do not wish my ex-DJ to have anything to do with my name likeness, events tributes etc. connected in anyway to my situation including any use of my name or circumstance for any reason and I have instructed my lawyers to enforce this. I had nothing to do with him in life for over 7 years and want nothing to do with him in death. Solar has my life story and is well informed on my family situation, as well as the real reason for separating from my ex-DJ."

DLG · Post by **DLG** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:03 am

Mark 563 wrote:handling Guru's Son's assets.

Spartan · Post by **Spartan** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:06 am

R.I.P

K-Funk · Post by **K-Funk** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:13 am

R.I.P. GURU

The Aluminum Falcon · Post by **The Aluminum Falcon** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:18 am

terrible news.

R.I.P.

SM · Post by SM » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:20 am

What a sad way to end things.

RIP

The letter is pretty messed up....

The statement reads on, גI do not wish my ex-DJ to have anything to do with my name likeness, events tributes etc. connected in anyway to my situation including any use of my name or circumstance for any reason and I have instructed my lawyers to enforce this. I had nothing to do with him in life for over 7 years and want nothing to do with him in death. Solar has my life story and is well informed on my family situation, as well as the real reason for separating from my ex-DJ. As the sole founder of GangStarr, I am very proud of what GangStarr has meant to the music world and fans.

Moolah · Post by **Moolah** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:45 am

fuck

LameAim · Post by **LameAim** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:01 am

RIP to Guru.

That letter is suspect as fuck, though.

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:24 am

GURU died, yo!

R.I.P.

Y@k Bollocks · Post by **Y@k Bollocks** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:35 am

Sad news, if true.

Anyone have a link to a reputable website carrying this story?

vermillion · Post by **vermillion** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:42 am

LameAim wrote:RIP to Guru.

That letter is suspect as fuck, though.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:45 am

real sad, mainly because of the way the whole situation was handled. rip.

Lyrical Gymnastics · Post by **Lyrical Gymnastics** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:48 am

"Why do bad things happen to good people?..."

R.I.P

SYM · Post by **SYM** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:05 am

damnit. rip guru. terrible way to go out. :(