Anybody peep that Diabolic album, Liar & A Thief??

docpacino · Post by **docpacino** » Sat Apr 03, 2010 4:53 pm

Just got done listening to it and it's dope as shit. I always thought he was ill. Best album I heard in a minute. Any thoughts?

anonjondoe · Post by **anonjondoe** » Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:20 pm

i like it

vermillion · Post by **vermillion** » Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:15 pm

Not too much anticipation for it, but I'm checking it out now.

Nathan Blaze · Post by **Nathan Blaze** » Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:45 pm

watched the 'i dont wanna rhyme' video

if the whole album is like that i might pass

less multi's and more substance plz

vermillion · Post by **vermillion** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:47 am

Horrible album. Vinnie Paz, Canibus and Immortal are the guests, which results in boring MCs with horrible voices. Diabolic raps over the beats IT scrapped and tries to cram multi-syllabic rhymes in every line. The content is that of a former texcee who spent a few hours too many on youtube watching illuminati videos. Corny ass record.

hellriser · Post by **hellriser** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:15 am

vermillion wrote:Horrible album. Vinnie Paz, Canibus and Immortal are the guests, which results in boring MCs with horrible voices. Diabolic raps over the beats IT scrapped and tries to cram multi-syllabic rhymes in every line. The content is that of a former texcee who spent a few hours too many on youtube watching illuminati videos. Corny ass record.

on point....... just like new aotp..... i heard many songs on youtube , - wack shit

dirtee · Post by **dirtee** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:20 am

docpacino · Post by **docpacino** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:35 pm

Man...I GUESS your right. I didn't really analyze it like that. Great album, not really, garbage, not really.

HustleCrowe · Post by **HustleCrowe** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:58 pm

if Diabolic was black & rapped like Vado every white boy on here would love it......

Diabolic is a beast, the joints I heard from the album are dope

vermillion · Post by **vermillion** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:02 pm

HustleCrowe wrote:if Diabolic was black & rapped like Vado every white boy on here would love it......

Diabolic is a beast, the joints I heard from the album are dope

Just like if you were black and rapped lik Vado, right?

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:12 pm

Diabolic is cool, I'm just not interested in 2010.

hellriser · Post by **hellriser** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:08 pm

HustleCrowe wrote:if Diabolic was black & rapped like Vado every white boy on here would love it......

Diabolic is a beast, the joints I heard from the album are dope

diabolic has skills.
yes.

but beats are pretty cheap..... like records of aotp and similar artists.... its no strange that i see canibus here.... where are wack beats there is canibus.

HustleCrowe · Post by **HustleCrowe** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:10 pm

hellriser wrote:
HustleCrowe wrote:if Diabolic was black & rapped like Vado every white boy on here would love it......

Diabolic is a beast, the joints I heard from the album are dope

diabolic has skills.
yes.

but beats are pretty cheap..... like records of aotp and similar artists.... its no strange that i see canibus here.... where are wack beats there is canibus.

I think the production on the new AOTP album is pretty dope and as for the Diabolic album, from what ive heard the production is ok, nothing spectacular but I haven't heard the whole album yet either.

HustleCrowe · Post by **HustleCrowe** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:10 pm

Philaflava wrote:Diabolic is cool, I'm just not interested in 2010.

but Gloss what are you interested in? That's the question

HustleCrowe · Post by **HustleCrowe** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:11 pm

I dunno how people can listen to this and not say Diabolic is dope, dude destroys the entire track from start to finish.

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the dead poet · Post by **the dead poet** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:22 pm

HustleCrowe wrote:I dunno how people can listen to this and not say Diabolic is dope, dude destroys the entire track from start to finish.

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that song aint bad.

the dead poet · Post by **the dead poet** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:28 pm

at the description of the disc hahahahha

Diabolics long-awaited debut album Liar & a Thief incorporates
various ideals sought by music enthusiasts who hunger for an
aggressive visual depiction of life by an authentic Hip Hop
artist. Flooded with powerful boom bap and cinematic
instrumentals, Diabolic tears through a wide range of subjects
with the same commitment to lyricism which, when combined with
his style, creates a sound that appears no more than once a
decade. This is a rappers rapper, a no-holds-barred lyricist
whose vivid use of words can send a shiver down your spine,
make you laugh, or incite you to start a riot in the streets.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 pm

HustleCrowe wrote:
Philaflava wrote:Diabolic is cool, I'm just not interested in 2010.

but Gloss what are you interested in? That's the question

Maybe something that speaks to me in my older age. Something that isn't so forgettable. It would help if the production was decent. This stuff sounds dated. Time to let that anger go.

This is why most people jock Doom, Andre or Jay Elec. No matter what you say about their skills, they are innovating and always bring something fresh to the table no matter the year. I can't say the same thing about this and I think Diabolic is a good rapper too. Same can be said for Ill Bill or IT.

Moolah · Post by **Moolah** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:11 pm

HustleCrowe wrote:if Diabolic was black & rapped like Vado every white boy on here would love it......

Diabolic is a beast, the joints I heard from the album are dope

docpacino · Post by **docpacino** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:50 pm

These r the things I meant. By no means is diabolic the next coming of anything. I'm 32 and I guess I feel that the game is so f'd up at times, any hint of that golden era feel. I think rap is all about an mc bragging about how he's the best and will eat any mc who gets in the way. Gotta give credit where it's due. Dudes that give that fresh take are welcome to the ears u feel me?!? If u remember back to 93,94,95, when it seemed like another banger was droppin all the time, or another hungry mc picked up a mic, just seems like that feeling is never gonna come back.

vermillion · Post by **vermillion** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:51 am

Philaflava wrote:
HustleCrowe wrote:
Philaflava wrote:Diabolic is cool, I'm just not interested in 2010.

but Gloss what are you interested in? That's the question
Maybe something that speaks to me in my older age. Something that isn't so forgettable. It would help if the production was decent. This stuff sounds dated. Time to let that anger go.

This is why most people jock Doom, Andre or Jay Elec. No matter what you say about their skills, they are innovating and always bring something fresh to the table no matter the year. I can't say the same thing about this and I think Diabolic is a good rapper too. Same can be said for Ill Bill or IT.

True, Diabolic is a decent MC, but obviously can't craft a great song let alone a great album. Ill Bill and IT are both better. The Future is Now and Revolutionary Vol. 2 are actually very good albums, while this corny rapper will probably never make one.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:57 am

vermillion wrote:
Philaflava wrote:
HustleCrowe wrote:
Philaflava wrote:Diabolic is cool, I'm just not interested in 2010.

but Gloss what are you interested in? That's the question
Maybe something that speaks to me in my older age. Something that isn't so forgettable. It would help if the production was decent. This stuff sounds dated. Time to let that anger go.

This is why most people jock Doom, Andre or Jay Elec. No matter what you say about their skills, they are innovating and always bring something fresh to the table no matter the year. I can't say the same thing about this and I think Diabolic is a good rapper too. Same can be said for Ill Bill or IT.
True, Diabolic is a decent MC, but obviously can't craft a great song let alone a great album. Ill Bill and IT are both better. The Future is Now and Revolutionary Vol. 2 are actually very good albums, while this corny rapper will probably never make one.

Yeah but I meant how both Bill and IT I listened to years ago but have very little desire today.

Hair of the Dog · Post by **Hair of the Dog** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:06 am

sure he has multis but only a certain subpopulation of peeps want to listen to this angry rap. its been done time and time again by JMT/AOTP, and if its all you can rap about, it gets stale real quick. Its probably an age thing too...I could tolerate much more of this back in 2001, but I can't listen to these lyrics for more than a minute these days.

DLG · Post by **DLG** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:13 am

Moolah wrote:
HustleCrowe wrote:if Diabolic was black & rapped like Vado every white boy on here would love it......

Diabolic is a beast, the joints I heard from the album are dope

so pathetic.

battlecatmeowstab212 · Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:12 pm

SideNote: Ever notice that more time has passed between Immortal Technique's last album (2003's 'Revolutionary Vol. 2') and now than 'The Chronic' and '2001?' I respect getting the absolute maximum mileage out of a release, but the turnover of a potential fanbase (re: money) in that time in baffling.

Reggie · Post by **Reggie** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:13 pm

battlecatmeowstab212 wrote:SideNote: Ever notice that more time has passed between Immortal Technique's last album (2003's 'Revolutionary Vol. 2') and now than 'The Chronic' and '2001?' I respect getting the absolute maximum mileage out of a release, but the turnover of a potential fanbase (re: money) in that time in baffling.

I'm pretty positive that you're the only one who noticed this.

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:25 pm

HustleCrowe wrote:I dunno how people can listen to this and not say Diabolic is dope, dude destroys the entire track from start to finish.

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Voss · Post by **Voss** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:29 pm

He can "rap" on a technical level.
But shit bores me, honestly.
I can only listen to so much "I'm awesome, here's why" and "I'll beat the shit outta you, here's how" rap.

Not my bag baby.

Nathan Blaze wrote: less multi's and more substance plz

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:47 pm

You guys are trippin', man. This shit hard. Straight bangers. Front-to-Back. People just hate on dude because of his affiliations.

HustleCrowe · Post by **HustleCrowe** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:53 am