let's talk about rappers

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:30 am

Freddie Gibbs

Many people just do not like him. A few years back he was regarded as the newest גBluג in regards to internet hype with the exception of Mr. Electronica.

I know Thun recently made a post saying he was pretty much forgettable. I myself think he has a certain style to him very reminiscent of 2Pac, save the Hennessey and enemy shit. He isnגt lyrically lyrical but he has a style and a cool rap voice if you will. Take גInג for example, he probably had the 2nd best verse and it wasnגt even that good but the moment he said גa pair of Air Jordans and a muthafuckinג attitudeג I was open. Cadence is a weapon.

He lacks material and when he isnגt freestyling over ג90 classics many of his tracks are indeed forgettable. But I think he has more than what most up-n-comers have and with the right producer and a little guidance he is capable of delivering dope product.

Speak about Freddie Gibbs and then after awhile (maybe a page) weגll move on to the next rapper.

DLG · Post by **DLG** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:38 am

every time I hear him I am impressed by the way he raps but I never have the need to hear that song again.

He's like a thugged out version of Ludacris that can't write a hit song.

Career Over Like Mike(NJJ) · Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:48 am

DLG wrote:He's like a thugged out version of post-2005Ludacris that can't write a hit song.

Fixed.

PopsUK · Post by **PopsUK** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:49 am

Gibbs is one of the "overhyped unsigned" rappers who I think is deserving of the hype. I think he is more of a lyrical miracle than people give him credit for, and couples it with a great rap voice and attitude. He has a shit-ton of material, and seems to have a good ear for beats. "Miseducation" and "Midwestblahblahblah" are better than most official albums that have dropped in the last few years. Even though his subject matter doesn't vary much, he somehow keeps it sounding fresh and seems to get good beats.

Doc_Holliday · Post by **Doc_Holliday** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:53 am

Gibbs has been out for several years now, and he seems to have found what works best for him. As trite as it may sound, he is at his best when he is rapping about guns, drugs, bitches, etc. I can definitely see how people make the 2Pac comparison, and I think he has gained momentum for his ability to turn gun rap into something more tangible for the average person. Freddie seems to do a good job of coming off like one of your homeboys, not someone who wouldn't give you the time of day if you saw him out somewhere. I remember copping "Live From Gary Indiana Part 2" back in '06 based off a recommendation from a friend, and although his sound is a little more polished these days, it's still my favorite piece of work by him. I'm not sure if he'll be able to remain relevant though, too many boring songs and I feel like he tries too hard to take the fast-rapping route. He puts on a good live show though, for what its worth...

the dead poet · Post by **the dead poet** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:18 am

I think gibbs is dope. He's had three really solid mixtapes...

step one · Post by **step one** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:52 am

I gave what I think was his last mixtape a try after reading the hype on here and wasn't that impressed. he wasn't terrible but I ended up skipping to the next song after a minute of each one to see if got any more interesting. He didnt. Sound quality and beats were shitty aswell which probably didnt help.

Rappers needs to start being in groups again. It can make a less charismatic/talented/interesting rapper seem a lot a better when they're playing off another MC and not having to hold down a whole song/album on their own.

Shiftshock · Post by **Shiftshock** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:04 pm

He's cool and makes average gangsta rap.. He could be a good little koch artist one day

Comedy Quaddafi · Post by **Comedy Quaddafi** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:04 pm

What step one said can't be stressed enough. These new 'blograppers' would be great in hypothetical groups. Gibbs, Vado, Meyhem Lauren, Kendrick Lamar, Curtains, Superstar Camel, Fashawn, Marc Spe 'q' something, Danny Brown, Chuuwee, even KRIT, put these guys together, mix and match however you like, and they might not force my itchy skip-finger.

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:36 pm

Str8 Killa No Filla was catching a lot of hype so I checked that. Haven't listened since.

What do guys consider to be his best songs, mixtapes/albums, appearances, etc?

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:05 pm

str8 killa mixtape is a pretty meh barometer, it was meant to capitalize of his building hype so its bloated with filler and tons of unnecessary guest features. plus the way they released it was retarded - paid ep + free mixtape choked with overwhelming dj drops + the dj free version that dropped a month later - the tape wasn't good enough to warrant keeping track of all the permutations. it's a shame too, there's a really good compilation that could be made from the best parts of the EP combined with a judiciously edited version of the dj-less mixtape and a few other songs that came out at the time that weren't included.

miseducation of freddie gibbs and midwesternboxframecadillacmusic are both much better, and there's tons of good shit on his earlier mixtapes too. cosign whoever gave credit to live from gary indiana 2, the second half of that especially is really good

Doc_Holliday · Post by **Doc_Holliday** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:19 pm

drizzle wrote:miseducation of freddie gibbs and midwesternboxframecadillacmusic are both much better, and there's tons of good shit on his earlier mixtapes too. cosign whoever gave credit to live from gary indiana 2, the second half of that especially is really good

word, part one has some cuts on it as well.

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Again, nothing mind blowing here but just take it for what it is.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:22 pm

drugs and things you do today are still some of my favorite gibbs songs. he has definitely improved since then, but those still do the trick well

PopsUK · Post by **PopsUK** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:34 pm

Are there DJ-free versions of his earlier mixtapes? Str8 Killa was kinda disappointing to start with, but pretty much like all of it when there are no DJ drops. Maybe not all of it, but a lot of it.

What other tracks did he release around that time that didn't make the album? I heard "Something New" which was dope, but what else was there?

KITFUNK · Post by **KITFUNK** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:51 pm

I like some of his shit.

Is this a general rapper thread or a Gibbs thread?

Title befuddles me.

sean · Post by **sean** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:58 pm

KITFUNK wrote:Is this a general rapper thread or a Gibbs thread?

Title befuddles me.

Philaflava wrote:Speak about Freddie Gibbs and then after awhile (maybe a page) weגll move on to the next rapper.

KITFUNK · Post by **KITFUNK** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:24 pm

I'm impatient.

On to the next one.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:08 pm

Okay.

Action Bronson

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YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:17 pm

Comedy Quaddafi wrote:What step one said can't be stressed enough. These new 'blograppers' would be great in hypothetical groups. Gibbs, Vado, Meyhem Lauren, Kendrick Lamar, Curtains, Superstar Camel, Fashawn, Marc Spe 'q' something, Danny Brown, Chuuwee, even KRIT, put these guys together, mix and match however you like, and they might not force my itchy skip-finger.

Yup. Blu needs a group. Maybe Blu + Fashawn + Planet Asia?

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:02 pm

Philaflava wrote:
Comedy Quaddafi wrote:What step one said can't be stressed enough. These new 'blograppers' would be great in hypothetical groups. Gibbs, Vado, Meyhem Lauren, Kendrick Lamar, Curtains, Superstar Camel, Fashawn, Marc Spe 'q' something, Danny Brown, Chuuwee, even KRIT, put these guys together, mix and match however you like, and they might not force my itchy skip-finger.
Yup. Blu needs a group. Maybe Blu + Fashawn + Planet Asia?

Has Blu done anything north of horrific since the album with exile?

Havent gotten into Bronson yet. Wheres the best place to start?

Gibbs midwest and miseducation are great mixtapes, but nothing hes done suggests he can make a great album. If that matters anymore, which im not sure it does. If he made another mixtape as good as those id check it.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:56 pm

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
Philaflava wrote:
Comedy Quaddafi wrote:What step one said can't be stressed enough. These new 'blograppers' would be great in hypothetical groups. Gibbs, Vado, Meyhem Lauren, Kendrick Lamar, Curtains, Superstar Camel, Fashawn, Marc Spe 'q' something, Danny Brown, Chuuwee, even KRIT, put these guys together, mix and match however you like, and they might not force my itchy skip-finger.
Yup. Blu needs a group. Maybe Blu + Fashawn + Planet Asia?
Has Blu done anything north of horrific since the album with exile?

Havent gotten into Bronson yet. Wheres the best place to start?

Gibbs midwest and miseducation are great mixtapes, but nothing hes done suggests he can make a great album. If that matters anymore, which im not sure it does. If he made another mixtape as good as those id check it.

Blu hasn't touched and never will that Exile album.

The best place to start with AB is prolly
http://actionbronson.bandcamp.com/album/bon-appetit
http://www.steadybloggin.com/action-bro ... B-mixtape/
http://j-love.bandcamp.com/album/bon-appetit-bitch

A Kid · Post by **A Kid** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:22 am

Gibbs is cool, he's got a commanding delivery and a usually standout voice. i forget the first project i heard from him but it was good for last summer, i kinda fell out after the Str8 Killa...it was ok but im just waiting for a proper album release. If anything Freddie made me a fan of Pill.

Action Bronson just makes me want to put Ghostface on. i tried numerous times to listen to his projects and each time ended with me putting on a Ghost album and being glad i did so...he's not bad tho at all.

Gyangsta 4 Life · Post by **Gyangsta 4 Life** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:14 am

sean wrote:
KITFUNK wrote:Is this a general rapper thread or a Gibbs thread?

Title befuddles me.

Philaflava wrote:Speak about Freddie Gibbs and then after awhile (maybe a page) weגll move on to the next rapper.

Isn't that what we do in every thread anyway?

dirtee · Post by **dirtee** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:47 am

str8 killa ep is fucking great.

odium-LSC · Post by **odium-LSC** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:16 am

I've been a pretty big fan of his ever since I saw this video. This track goes hard as fuck IMO

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Comedy Quaddafi · Post by **Comedy Quaddafi** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:52 am

Midwestboxblablabla was a top 5 or so song from 09, for me. That has to be said. An album full of songs like that and What It Be Like would make me a lifetime fan.

Dap · Post by **Dap** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:51 pm

im a huge gibbs fan. he does what he does well. yeah he's not gonna change the game but he'll make good music.

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Smitty · Post by **Smitty** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:25 pm

Dude's a rapper's rapper, I can understand the lack of faith in his mainstream appeal. A group could be interesting. Gibbs & Krit would be monstrous.

This the one that got me.

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david111 · Post by **david111** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:03 pm

Comedy Quaddafi wrote:What step one said can't be stressed enough. These new 'blograppers' would be great in hypothetical groups. Gibbs, Vado, Meyhem Lauren, Kendrick Lamar, Curtains, Superstar Camel, Fashawn, Marc Spe 'q' something, Danny Brown, Chuuwee, even KRIT, put these guys together, mix and match however you like, and they might not force my itchy skip-finger.

how does vado qualify as a blograpper? who isnt a blog rapper in that case, just rick ross & game?

Dap · Post by **Dap** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:08 pm

Smitty wrote:Dude's a rapper's rapper, I can understand the lack of faith in his mainstream appeal. A group could be interesting. Gibbs & Krit would be monstrous.

This the one that got me.

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i agree. that is probably one of my top 3 gibbs songs

"was raised on ridin dirty, dirty money off the white, kept a couple side hustles the rappin was just a dream, lay that snap on the track like was an underground king, what u mean? these bitches act like i'm fresh on the scene, brought canadian butter cross the border at seventeen, holy moly yola and that proper promethezine, come down to my basement all you see is a sea of green, bitch im on on that grown shit, had to grow my own shit, got them pizzones in them zippas hit me on the phone bitch, if u need it then i got it, just dont say the wrong shit, too much yappin at the trap gon' send us on a long trip, fuck polices and politicians perpetratin that punk shit, im comin down on candy paint like smoke sumthin bitch"

its a simple gangsta verse yet it sounds dope as shit