Ox:2010 a Street Odyssey

krylonjukie · Post by **krylonjukie** » Tue May 31, 2011 8:28 am

He's back...

I am not sure if this album is

or not yet. On first listen this song does remind me of some Can Ox era Vast...'Nomad' is the name of this song.
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My friend Kount Fif did a lot of the production on this album, so I can only hope that it is good.

He's the guy at the very beginning of this video 'Sour Diesel'....
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Personally I like both of theses tracks but I may be a little biased because my boy is involved. So, what does

think???

ALASKA · Post by **ALASKA** » Tue May 31, 2011 9:45 am

Nomad is a pretty decent track.

the diesel is painful.

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Tue May 31, 2011 10:00 am

The nomad track is not awful. Not really good, either.

krylonjukie · Post by **krylonjukie** » Tue May 31, 2011 10:24 am

Thun wrote:The nomad track is not awful. Not really good, either.

I am currently fence riding (no :ghey:

) on this album. There are some stand outs...

Tracklist:

[ 1 ] Vast Aire - Intro Ox 9000 [ 02:28 ]
[ 2 ] Vast Aire - Nomad [ 03:12 ]
[ 3 ] Vast Aire - Almight Jose Feat Karniege [ 04:27 ]
[ 4 ] Vast Aire - The Man of Steel [ 03:18 ]
[ 5 ] Vast Aire - I Dont Care Feat Cappadonna [ 03:51 ]
[ 6 ] Vast Aire - 2090 (So Grimmy) Feat Double Ab [ 03:58 ]
[ 7 ] Vast Aire - Phenom [ 03:32 ]
[ 8 ] Vast Aire - Horoscope [ 04:35 ]
[ 9 ] Vast Aire - The Cannon of Samus Feat Kenyattah Black [ 03:33 ]
[ 10 ] Vast Aire - Dark Matter Feat Space [ 04:06 ]
[ 11 ] Vast Aire - Merry Go Round [ 04:48 ]
[ 12 ] Vast Aire - Thros Hammer Feat Raekwon and Vordul Mega [ 03:38 ]
[ 13 ] Vast Aire - Spy Vs Spy [ 03:37 ]
[ 14 ] Vast Aire - The Verdict Feat Guilty Simpson [ 02:59 ]
[ 15 ] Vast Aire - Battle of the Plantes Feat Genesis of Lxg [ 07:05 ]

The Afronaut · Post by **The Afronaut** » Tue May 31, 2011 10:42 am

I liked Nomad.

Lid · Post by **Lid** » Tue May 31, 2011 11:01 am

his raps are way cooler when he's being less direct with his approach. he's also not a solo artist, sh1t gets boring real fast midway into his 2nd verse of every track if he's the only dude on it.

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Tue May 31, 2011 11:06 am

Thun wrote:The nomad track is not awful. Not really good, either.

yeah, I can't decide how I feel about it either.

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Tue May 31, 2011 11:15 am

Vast sounds better on "Nomad" than he's sounded in years...maybe even a decade.

krylonjukie · Post by **krylonjukie** » Tue May 31, 2011 11:20 am

Blockhead wrote:Vast sounds better on "Nomad" than he's sounded in years...maybe even a decade.

YEP!

ALASKA · Post by **ALASKA** » Tue May 31, 2011 11:24 am

Blockhead wrote:Vast sounds better on "Nomad" than he's sounded in years...maybe even a decade.

yeah but sounds like his "im 30 and still really excited that I learned about weed in 2000" self.

krylonjukie · Post by **krylonjukie** » Tue May 31, 2011 11:34 am

ALASKA wrote:yeah but sounds like his "im 30 and still really excited that I learned about weed in 2000" self.

and that ladies and gentlemen is hilarious.

sleazy_j · Post by **sleazy_j** » Tue May 31, 2011 11:34 am

the nomad beat was pretty good.

white rappers having black friends recite their rhymes in videos >>>>>>>>>> black rappers having white friends recite their rhymes in videos.

Balzac · Post by **Balzac** » Tue May 31, 2011 12:02 pm

i've always been a vast fan

been hearing good things about this album as well.

the posted tracks are dope.

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Tue May 31, 2011 12:08 pm

ALASKA wrote:
Blockhead wrote:Vast sounds better on "Nomad" than he's sounded in years...maybe even a decade.
yeah but sounds like his "im 30 and still really excited that I learned about weed in 2000" self.

He sounds more like that on the second song.
On the first I got the feeling he may have actually written those verses prior to getting to the studio and smoking 4 blunts.

unclebengi · Post by **unclebengi** » Tue May 31, 2011 12:30 pm

I wanna hear the track with Vordul, but that's about it.

The Afronaut · Post by **The Afronaut** » Tue May 31, 2011 12:45 pm

Blockhead wrote:On the first I got the feeling he may have actually written those verses prior to getting to the studio and smoking 4 blunts.

Agreed.

ALASKA · Post by **ALASKA** » Tue May 31, 2011 12:45 pm

Blockhead wrote:
ALASKA wrote:
Blockhead wrote:Vast sounds better on "Nomad" than he's sounded in years...maybe even a decade.
yeah but sounds like his "im 30 and still really excited that I learned about weed in 2000" self.
He sounds more like that on the second song.
On the first I got the feeling he may have actually written those verses prior to getting to the studio and smoking 4 blunts.

Yeah I meant to include the words " in The Sour Diesel song" acter the yeah but portion of that comment.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Tue May 31, 2011 12:48 pm

unclebengi wrote:I wanna hear the track with Vordul, but that's about it.

http://www.2dopeboyz.com/2011/05/31/vas ... rdul-mega/

lost me at 'we were only meant for supreme, alphabet soup'

i still enjoy old can ox, had a lot of fun when we did that comp a lil while a go, but jsut can't take any new vast aire material seriously. even when he's not horrible

the funny thing is, take off vast aire and this magically transforms into a solid reakwon/voldul mixtape cut. anybody wanna make that edit?

CHANCE RANDOM · Post by **CHANCE RANDOM** » Tue May 31, 2011 12:59 pm

That Nomad track is appallingly terrible.

Balzac · Post by **Balzac** » Tue May 31, 2011 1:05 pm

his style/content/delivery hasn't changes since can ox. can someone explain why this is shitty and the old stuff is dope?

Kid That's Lifeless · Post by **Kid That's Lifeless** » Tue May 31, 2011 1:08 pm

Old stuff had El-P production and Vordul verses.

CHANCE RANDOM · Post by **CHANCE RANDOM** » Tue May 31, 2011 1:14 pm

Kid That's Lifeless wrote:Old stuff had El-P production and Vordul verses.

Yep. Also, it seems to be like his content and delivery are stale as shit on this, not as fresh on Cold Vein. But maybe it was the beats covering it up.

krylonjukie · Post by **krylonjukie** » Tue May 31, 2011 1:31 pm

QWALMS wrote:Yep. Also, it seems to be like his content and delivery are stale as shit on this, not as fresh on Cold Vein. But maybe it was the beats covering it up.

I think that it's just not all that new to anyone...Vast has a bit of a gimmicky quality. Agreed?

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Tue May 31, 2011 1:34 pm

Balzac wrote:his style/content/delivery hasn't changes since can ox. can someone explain why this is shitty and the old stuff is dope?

that's the whole point, he ran his style into the ground until it became a selfparody

ALASKA · Post by **ALASKA** » Tue May 31, 2011 1:34 pm

Balzac wrote:his style/content/delivery hasn't changes since can ox.

thats kind of the problem.

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Tue May 31, 2011 1:35 pm

Vast reminds me of Jeru in that they both came out the box with a really fresh and new style that no one had really heard before. But , while the old stuff remains dope, they never really progressed in their work. They seemingly got stuck in a style ,while trying to dub shit down a little. All those ignorable flaws of their earlier work became glaring as they moved ahead.

CHANCE RANDOM · Post by **CHANCE RANDOM** » Tue May 31, 2011 1:51 pm

Well put.

Balzac · Post by **Balzac** » Tue May 31, 2011 1:55 pm

vorduls shit hasn't changed either, is he still dope?

*edit*
the jeru analogy makes sense to me....

ALASKA · Post by **ALASKA** » Tue May 31, 2011 2:00 pm

Balzac wrote:vorduls shit hasn't changed either, is he still dope?

*edit*
the jeru analogy makes sense to me....

the thing with vast on ox was, that a lot of those rhymes, were worked and reworked over a 4 or 5 year period, possibily even longer, I had only known him from around 95 or 96. Now it seems like he has this mad libs approach. almost a template of a rhyme and then plugs in street reference, movie reference, ancient art reference, tv reference, video game reference, a few slang terms for weed, and some over dubs. the ox verses were painstakingly crafted. The majority of his new stuff does not appear to be. Though Nomad seems to have a bit more of that old vast flare.

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Tue May 31, 2011 2:04 pm

Balzac wrote:vorduls shit hasn't changed either, is he still dope?

I dunno...vordul has changed a lot since this:
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But he's also been through a ton of real shit that I'd assume has had an effect on him as a rapper and as a person.
That said, I'm always down to peep some new Vordul shit. His style somehow has remained intriguing to me, even if it has declined a bit over the years.