Mos Def - The Ecstatic - 2 years later

stype_ones · Post by **stype_ones** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:46 pm

This album grew on me so much. I was pretty into it when it came out, but I was not blown away. I like Mos, but he is by no means one of my favorites. Yet this album is really dope. It took me 2 years to realize this fact. I would go back to it every now and then, but more recently I have been bumping this shit pretty heavily and find myself hearing new things every time. I can't put my finger on it, and part of that is the fact that it is all over the place, but the truth is this shit is really dope. It reminds me of like the first 2 Organized albums in that it brings me here and there, but always back to a dope place, and as I said, I just hear new shit every time I sit with it. It is by no means perfect, but I would tell anyone who loves Hip Hop, who might have overlooked this album to sit with it and open a bottle of wine or twist something and just parlay. Shit is really dope and overlooked in this age of disposable art.

GrimeyHippy · Post by **GrimeyHippy** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:00 pm

it was aight, definitely had some dope tracks

but getting put on to mos def via the ecstatic is like being put on to wu-tan via OB4CL2

:lastweek:

Kid That's Lifeless · Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:03 pm

GrimeyHippy wrote:but getting put on to mos def via the ecstatic is like being put on to wu-tan via OB4CL2

Where did he mention anything getting put on to Mos Def (

) via the Ecstatic?

Kid That's Lifeless · Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:06 pm

I haven't listened to this since it's release and I remember it being alright. I'll listen to it again tomorrow.

sun ra · Post by **sun ra** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:19 pm

there was this shoe store in paris a while ago when I last heard auditorium.. started dancing. but yea, good but enough to pick it up again.

stype_ones · Post by **stype_ones** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:20 pm

Kid That's Lifeless wrote:I haven't listened to this since it's release and I remember it being alright.

That's basically how I felt about it. I don't even know how I came back across it to be honest. I was just going through the ipod on the E train, and just threw it on. It's something that has just grown on me. Sometimes you need a circumstance like that to get into an album. Especially in these times, where albums come and go so frequently. I am not trying to put people on to Mos, but I am trying to get those, who I can't blame in this day and age, to revisit an album that is really dope that our ADD society overlooked.

COOLEHMAGAZINE · Post by **COOLEHMAGAZINE** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:29 pm

pradadon wrote:
Kid That's Lifeless wrote:I haven't listened to this since it's release and I remember it being alright.
That's basically how I felt about it. I don't even know how I came back across it to be honest. I was just going through the ipod on the E train, and just threw it on. It's something that has just grown on me. Sometimes you need a circumstance like that to get into an album. Especially in these times, where albums come and go so frequently. I am not trying to put people on to Mos, but I am trying to get those, who I can't blame in this day and age, to revisit an album that is really dope that our ADD society overlooked.

I love that album, shit is great and yeah it grows on ya more and more. I liked it when it dropped and now I probably think its his best record...or at least as good as BOBS, just different.

I go back to albums a lot though. I feel like these days no one has any interest in mulling over records anymore though. At most they will put a couple songs in a playlist that they occasionally still put on while assembling Ikea furniture.

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:53 pm

Done been his best album since it dropped.

DaBonks · Post by **DaBonks** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:08 am

COOLEHMAGAZINE wrote: I love that album, shit is great and yeah it grows on ya more and more. I liked it when it dropped and now I probably think its his best record...or at least as good as BOBS, just different.

I go back to albums a lot though. I feel like these days no one has any interest in mulling over records anymore though. At most they will put a couple songs in a playlist that they occasionally still put on while assembling Ikea furniture.

That is my opinion too.
BOBS is some of the best 90's straight hip-hop, The Ecstatic isn't just hip-hop. It's poetic.

The rhymes aren't punchlines and maybe not even really rap. They're poems and I think that's why so many people got put of by the album when it came out. No good for the heads.

I love the album, though. One of the best from that year.

step one · Post by **step one** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:15 am

DaBonks wrote:BOBS is some of the best 90's straight hip-hop.

Tired & Broke · Post by **Tired & Broke** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:24 am

step one wrote:
DaBonks wrote:BOBS is some of the best 90's straight hip-hop.

Nigga you're anti-everything, kill yourself.

Busta Ry · Post by **Busta Ry** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:59 am

I do not think it compares favorably to BOBS, but it was a really pleasant surprise because I wasn't the only one who thought everything Mos Def had gone to shit upon its release. It's a good listen - I probably would have sequenced the tracks differently - if that was, say, my job or some shit. I REALLY like the songs he's dropped here and there after the LP, like "White Drapes" and the two that didn't make that Ski project "Cream of The Planet" and "Taxi", so maybe this is a sign that he's in the pocket and there's another good LP to come. Maybe. Probably not though. I'm fully expecting True Magic 2. Maybe this season of Dexter will rock tha partay doe.

step one · Post by **step one** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:33 am

Tired & Broke wrote:
step one wrote:
DaBonks wrote:BOBS is some of the best 90's straight hip-hop.

Nigga you're anti-everything, kill yourself.

Pretty sure I wasnt the only one who found BOBS incredibly underwhelming.

Dap · Post by **Dap** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:22 pm

step one wrote:
Tired & Broke wrote:
step one wrote:
DaBonks wrote:BOBS is some of the best 90's straight hip-hop.

Nigga you're anti-everything, kill yourself.
Pretty sure I wasnt the only one who found BOBS incredibly underwhelming.

really though? INCREDIBLY underwhelming?

COOLEHMAGAZINE · Post by **COOLEHMAGAZINE** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:03 pm

So, I'm sitting here rocking this album front-to-back for the first time in a little while and this shit is still fresh as fuck. Modern day classic.

Dap · Post by **Dap** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:10 pm

haven't listened to it in a while, only thing i really remember about it was how much i loved the track with slick rick

Balzac · Post by **Balzac** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:14 pm

its been a while, but i remember liking it a lot.

re-downloading

COOLEHMAGAZINE · Post by **COOLEHMAGAZINE** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:14 pm

It's just a great listen. And it works in the headphones but is maybe even better as something to have on while you're working.

Mindbender Futurama · Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:16 pm

step one wrote:
DaBonks wrote:BOBS is some of the best 90's straight hip-hop.

honestly, i usually stay out of these silly moments.

but you HAVE TO be a bonafied hater if not totally deaf if you can't recognize the musical and even cultural importance of Mos Def's Black on Both Sides album in the late 90's.

you don't gotta like it, but you're a fool to not respect it.

I jam to the Slick Rick and Mos Def song constantly. Played it last week.

"Casa Bey" is also fucking great music.

people ain't ready to follow Mos Def, but they should be. Dude is the truth, even when he's going crazy.

"N!ggas In Poorest" is the most important rap song of the last 6 months.

COOLEHMAGAZINE · Post by **COOLEHMAGAZINE** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:23 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote:
step one wrote:
DaBonks wrote:BOBS is some of the best 90's straight hip-hop.

honestly, i usually stay out of these silly moments.

but you HAVE TO be a bonafied hater if not totally deaf if you can't recognize the musical and even cultural importance of Mos Def's Black on Both Sides album in the late 90's.

you don't gotta like it, but you're a fool to not respect it.

I jam to the Slick Rick and Mos Def song constantly. Played it last week.

"Casa Bey" is also fucking great music.

people ain't ready to follow Mos Def, but they should be. Dude is the truth, even when he's going crazy.

"N!ggas In Poorest" is the most important rap song of the last 6 months.

Mos Def didn't do his own lyrics justice with the terrible execution of that song. Mix sucks, beat sounds like trash. Presentation matters.

"Priority" is the shit.

Larry2times · Post by **Larry2times** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:45 pm

step one wrote:
Tired & Broke wrote:
step one wrote:
DaBonks wrote:BOBS is some of the best 90's straight hip-hop.

Nigga you're anti-everything, kill yourself.
Pretty sure I wasnt the only one who found BOBS incredibly underwhelming.

The definitive take on that Ambien-rap frisbee:

http://fatlacemagazine.com/2008/01/unde ... erhated-1/

You all really throw them bows when Umi Says comes on in the health food shop?

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:58 pm

The Ecstatic definitely holds it's own, as does BOBS.

I do think that BOBS was a bit underwhelming to many when it dropped (just because Mos had a lot of hype going into it, and I think a continuation of Black Star Mos is more what some were looking for at the time). But even at the time you had people who loved BOBS for what it is was, and people who were pissed about what it wasn't. The Ecstatic on the other hand was shockingly very solid, given Mos's horrendous track record in between BOBS and Ecstatic. All in all, the truth on both albums is somewhere in the middle - both are pretty good hip hop records that stand the test of time.

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:38 pm

Ecstatic is dope, I've gone back to it every once in awhile since it first came out and have liked it more and more.

I'm just stupid like 40% of the time.

@Mindbender: "N!ggas In Poorest"

COOLEHMAGAZINE · Post by **COOLEHMAGAZINE** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:45 pm

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:The Ecstatic definitely holds it's own, as does BOBS.

I do think that BOBS was a bit underwhelming to many when it dropped (just because Mos had a lot of hype going into it, and I think a continuation of Black Star Mos is more what some were looking for at the time). But even at the time you had people who loved BOBS for what it is was, and people who were pissed about what it wasn't. The Ecstatic on the other hand was shockingly very solid, given Mos's horrendous track record in between BOBS and Ecstatic. All in all, the truth on both albums is somewhere in the middle - both are pretty good hip hop records that stand the test of time.

Well said.

supnick · Post by **supnick** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:38 pm

priority came on shuffle like 3 months ago it was pretty cool

nick out

Stieflkater · Post by **Stieflkater** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:22 pm

Got it when it first dropped...The Urban Thermo Dynamics album is ill too...

Gyangsta 4 Life · Post by **Gyangsta 4 Life** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:29 pm

Larry2times wrote:
step one wrote:
Tired & Broke wrote:
step one wrote:
DaBonks wrote:BOBS is some of the best 90's straight hip-hop.

Nigga you're anti-everything, kill yourself.
Pretty sure I wasnt the only one who found BOBS incredibly underwhelming.
The definitive take on that Ambien-rap frisbee:

http://fatlacemagazine.com/2008/01/unde ... erhated-1/

You all really throw them bows when Umi Says comes on in the health food shop?

@ Wack On Both Sides

stype_ones · Post by **stype_ones** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:20 pm

The Ecstatic and Q Tip's The Renaissance were two of the very best albums from last decade that never did and never will get their true just props. Both are just amazing front to back. Non disposable Hip Hop albums. It's a foreign concept these days.

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:39 pm

COOLEHMAGAZINE wrote:
B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:The Ecstatic definitely holds it's own, as does BOBS.

I do think that BOBS was a bit underwhelming to many when it dropped (just because Mos had a lot of hype going into it, and I think a continuation of Black Star Mos is more what some were looking for at the time). But even at the time you had people who loved BOBS for what it is was, and people who were pissed about what it wasn't. The Ecstatic on the other hand was shockingly very solid, given Mos's horrendous track record in between BOBS and Ecstatic. All in all, the truth on both albums is somewhere in the middle - both are pretty good hip hop records that stand the test of time.
Well said.

Agreed. But that being said, I was in the camp that thought 'The New Danger' wasn't as bad as people screamed it was. 'The Rape Over' is even more vicious than 'N!ggas In Poorest', when broken down. "A tall Israeli is running this rap shit"? Wow, Mos went at Lyor Cohen's neck like "bleached sand n!gga, what?!"

I think it's fair to call Mos Def's 'Black On Both Sides' AND Talib Kweli's 'Train of Thought' classic albums. They certainly defined the era, and all them songs still sound pretty fuckin good.

Panama · Post by **Panama** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:55 pm

I never stopped banging Supermagic

Solid record 2 years ago, solid record now

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