rappers co-signing wack rappers

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:31 pm

It's extremely common but how do you feel when its a rapper you admire? or even better what if its a rapper you like doing a collabo with somebody who is just awful? and i'm not alluding to the future collabo of Mac Miller and Aesop Rock that is bound to happen.

After reading the das racist thread it got me thinking how rappers usually have horrible taste or hidden agendas.

the dead poet · Post by **the dead poet** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:35 pm

Philaflava wrote:
After reading the das racist thread it got me thinking how rappers usually have horrible taste or hidden agendas.

or they're just trying to get paid for a quick 16.

Didn't :ropeswing:

have all the lyrical miracle emcees on one album?

shit I got a friend (who is atrocious) that did a collabo with crooked i, chino xl, and canibus on the same song....

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They for sure were not co signing him.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:46 pm

i blame the soft economy and myspace for this whole wack rapper collabo craze. look how guys like sean p or g. rap were selling verses for rent money.

the dead poet · Post by **the dead poet** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:53 pm

Philaflava wrote:i blame the soft economy and myspace for this whole wack rapper collabo craze. look how guys like sean p or g. rap were selling verses for rent money.

you know, I never thought about it...but your right. Myspace defiantly to blame. Shit, it don't stop at emcee's either...Domingo was selling beats for dirt cheap for years.

The ILLatino · Post by **The ILLatino** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:57 pm

I just ranted about this on Twitter. I'm kinda sad to see my idols peddling hooks and verses to whomever. On the other hand, shit, if these idiots have the money to waste on terrible collabs with established artists, who am I to say "don't get money?" Can't sell CDs, sell verses.

Rap in the modern age, I guess.

Sucka Ducka · Post by **Sucka Ducka** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:43 pm

Anyone co-signing Termanology. M.O.P. I am dissapoint.

Steve Lurkel · Post by **Steve Lurkel** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:28 pm

i think the most logical excuse is that a rapper is trying to capitalize on his popularity while he has the chance.

If you're making, let's say, 3 G's per show on tour, and you're doing 25 shows...you aren't making much off CD's, as we all know. if you can do a verse in each town for a shitty rapper that most people won't hear, and get 1G for each one..that's an extra 25 G's on the tour.

as an example.

that said, a collab isn't necessarily a cosign. and a co-sign could mean the two rappers are both cool, and thus them talking on twitter or whateverthefuck becomes a co-sign...

i don't really care too much either way. different people like different shit.

Sucka Ducka · Post by **Sucka Ducka** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:47 pm

I somewhat agree that getting paid for a guest verse isn't a co-sign, but then again, it kinda is - I assume most rappers who spit a verse on shitty projects for a G would claim its all business, and I can see that side of things, BUT the only reason any small town no-name rapper is paying for a collabo is for the appearance of a "co-sign". By putting that rappers name on their album as a featured artist on the album.

My logic is that any rapper with a name spitting a verse on a relatively unknown artists project has to know they are going to use it on their project as a way to get known or attain listeners by attaching a more famous rappers name to the project - so its effectively a cosign, paid or not, and whether they like the project they are spitting a verse on or not. You would think that they would have some level of quality control to the point where it would have to be decent or good to do it, even with the money attached. Although I wouldn't consider it a "co sign" to the degree of working with an up and coming artist for free because they genuinely like what they are doing and want to help them come up...

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:39 am

el p and das racist was literally the first thing that came to mind when i saw the thread

second was primo + almost every newish rapper he cosigned in the last 5-10 years

Sucka Ducka · Post by **Sucka Ducka** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:54 am

Hustle Crowe and Sean P!

gentlejones · Post by **gentlejones** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:00 am

the entire theodore unit fit this description

Moolah · Post by **Moolah** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:17 am

How about the opposite, rappers who have never cosigned or collabed with shitty rappers? I can't think of any.

Comedy Quaddafi · Post by **Comedy Quaddafi** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:19 am

Nav · Post by **Nav** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:37 am

Snoop Dogg. He's a like truffle pig when it comes to money.

Tired & Broke · Post by **Tired & Broke** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:06 am

gentlejones wrote:the entire theodore unit fit this description

You shut your filthy mouth, Trife Diesel will rap circles around your bitch ass.

Brougham33 · Post by **Brougham33** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:49 am

Big Sean and CyHi Da Prynce ruining Kanye West songs.

Whatever this was:

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Willie B · Post by **Willie B** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:27 am

Brougham33 wrote:Big Sean and CyHi Da Prynce ruining Kanye West songs.

big sean, yes.
cyhi, not so much.

Busta Ry · Post by **Busta Ry** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:33 am

Words, I kinda like Cyhi.

peanut butter · Post by **peanut butter** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:57 am

PEACE

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:56 pm

Working with someone does not necessarily mean you co-sign them, it often means you care more about money than artistic integrity though.

Kool G Rap has appeared on tracks with plenty of wack rappers, bodied them and collected a check for it. Unfortunately, I doubt any of these casualties actually realized what'd happened and ended their career because of it. Just the opposite, I suspect.

CRASH DDZ · Post by **CRASH DDZ** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:14 pm

Versive wrote:Working with someone does not necessarily mean you co-sign them, it often means you care more about money than artistic integrity though.

That's co-signing the check ain't it? It's 100% co-signing. Putting your name on the line that this person will pay off eventually.

blastmaster · Post by **blastmaster** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:01 pm

Every time DJ Premier sells a beat, I cry inside.

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:02 pm

CRASH DDZ wrote:
Versive wrote:Working with someone does not necessarily mean you co-sign them, it often means you care more about money than artistic integrity though.
That's co-signing the check ain't it? It's 100% co-signing. Putting your name on the line that this person will pay off eventually.

...

Yes, that's literally co-signing, but just because you take a check doesn't mean you're necessarily co-signing in the sense that you're saying, "I think so and so has skills," or "I dig their music." It could just mean you need $

See the 2nd post in the thread, which admittedly I also missed at first.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:35 pm

Comedy Quaddafi wrote:

wasn't Trez's father Khadafi's attorney?

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:36 pm

peanut butter wrote:

PEACE

But everyone knows Nas is the dumbest, laziest and by far has the worst taste of any rapper that's actually good.

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:03 pm

Philaflava wrote:
Comedy Quaddafi wrote:

wasn't Trez's father Khadafi's attorney?

What's freaking me out is how much they look like one another.

papers · Post by **papers** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:10 pm

nas cosigning drake and going to his concert

fuck outta here

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:22 pm

Trez looks like a "In soviet russia..." Joke waiting to happen.

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:39 pm

Blockhead wrote:Trez looks like a "In soviet russia..." Joke waiting to happen.

In Soviet Russia, President arrests you.

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:42 pm

Thun wrote:
Blockhead wrote:Trez looks like a "In soviet russia..." Joke waiting to happen.
In Soviet Russia, President arrests you.

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