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Dude, when even Spartan and Thyck Whyte find common ground...WiCkEd22 wrote:I've never spent a fuckin dime on any digital music. Fuck that shit. If I'm buying music it's music I actually own and don't need a fuckin cell phone, tablet, laptop, PC, watch, etc. to listen to.Spartan wrote:Not paying $30 for a digital album, no matter the artist.
Right. I haven't paid for a Dr Dre produced album since 2001.gusty wingers wrote:also anybody can make hip hop beats... not slighting what roc does because his ear for samples and gritty chops is truly impressive, but the reason dre can basically hum a beat, have it made, and get the bulk to all of the credit for it, is because of mixing and mastering... one of the true toughest things to do in music, and something that is essentially impossible to fake... you can either spend years learning how to properly do it or you will pay to have it done... or your music will sound like rocs
Cleanly mastered. Ed Sheeran makes cleanly mastered music. I don't understand the point you're tying to make.gusty wingers wrote:that really makes no sense man, you have to know how to master music, get it mixed and mastered by a real professional producer or your music sounds like shit like rocs, nobody gives a fuck what you buy... dre outsells roc every single day lol and his music sounds professional, no matter how SHITTY it is, it is cleanly mastered shit
https://djbooth.net/features/2018-03-06 ... -interview" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Over the weekend, the legendary Long Island lyricist revealed on Twitter that his 2017 album Rosebudd’s Revenge earned him “sneaker money” from three million-plus streams. Each service offers their own payout rate for artists, but according to the latest numbers, three million streams on Tidal nets you $38,520. On Apple Music, $23,490. And on Spotify, just $11,400.
That’s considerably more than “sneaker money” for most people. Mind you, Marcberg Slim does have expensive taste in shoes.
So, in a system increasingly dominated by streaming platforms, who are generating billions of dollars for the music business but paying less than a penny per play to the actual creators, what’s an independent hustler like Roc Marciano to do? Good thing he was chopping O’s since a snot nose.
On February 27, Roc Marciano released his new album, Rosebudd’s Revenge 2: The Bitter Dose, the fifth installment in his series of grimy, intricate and extravagant kingpin chronicles. Instead of offering it up on your favorite streaming platforms, though, he’s been selling digital copies of the project exclusively on his website for $30. No streams, all sales. Just like the good old days. And it’s paying off.
“It’s been amazing. This shit is printing money. The return on investment happened in a day. I was in the black in a day. How you like them apples?” he says over the phone with a trademark sneer. Unsurprisingly, Marci isn’t willing to divulge specific figures, but rest assured he’s made more than sneaker money off Rosebudd’s Revenge 2 sales so far. “Oh, hell yeah. Easy.”
there is absolutely no rhyme or reason to the way this is mastered or mixed... it sounds UNMASTERED... nothing wrong with lo fi but it is not mixed correctly... regards to vocals, samples, and other volumes all around unevenly mixed and most likely not mastered... sounds like trash on monitor speaksY@k Bollox wrote:Cleanly mastered. Ed Sheeran makes cleanly mastered music. I don't understand the point you're tying to make.gusty wingers wrote:that really makes no sense man, you have to know how to master music, get it mixed and mastered by a real professional producer or your music sounds like shit like rocs, nobody gives a fuck what you buy... dre outsells roc every single day lol and his music sounds professional, no matter how SHITTY it is, it is cleanly mastered shit
After Pimpire, noticeable fall off.gusty wingers wrote:there is also a significant and noticeable difference in the quality of the mixing and mastering from reloaded to here
Exactly this. All Marci has done is split his niche audience.Employee wrote:"Financially rape and pillage your true fan base in the limited window of time you have. Once there are none left from which to charge the same exorbitant prices that you yourself are complaining about in the form of streaming royalties, release it on all streaming platforms."And if he’s going to cater directly to his core fan base, he might as well sell his album for $30 a pop than make less than 20 cents ($0.19, to be exact—and that’s on Tidal) each time someone streams it all the way through. It’s simple math.
LOL.
Desperate money grabs do not equal long-term hustling...LOL.
Love his music, but his delusions of grandeur in regards to his business prowess are Ithe-like.Spartan wrote:Exactly this. All Marci has done is split his niche audience.Employee wrote:"Financially rape and pillage your true fan base in the limited window of time you have. Once there are none left from which to charge the same exorbitant prices that you yourself are complaining about in the form of streaming royalties, release it on all streaming platforms."And if he’s going to cater directly to his core fan base, he might as well sell his album for $30 a pop than make less than 20 cents ($0.19, to be exact—and that’s on Tidal) each time someone streams it all the way through. It’s simple math.
LOL.
Desperate money grabs do not equal long-term hustling...LOL.
The album is dope, and I'll cop the CD if he inevitably releases it (at a sensible price), but I have no regrets downloading that shit for free. Treating your fans like a bunch of mugs and hoping you'll catch a few whales in the process is a shitty hustle.
Yeah, definitely tricky. He clearly likes an analogue fuzz to things though. I'm thinking of that 76 video that looks like it was shot on Super 8, the samples from old movies - maybe ask if it was an intentional stylistic thing?Philaflava wrote:i gotta find a way to word that properly.
affecting a lofi feel and straight up terrible mixing that buries your vocals are very different things. He has plenty of older songs with that kind of fuzz that are immaculately mixed and mastered, and there are some songs on RR1 that are a stark difference to that.Y@k Bollox wrote:Yeah, definitely tricky. He clearly likes an analogue fuzz to things though. I'm thinking of that 76 video that looks like it was shot on Super 8, the samples from old movies - maybe ask if it was an intentional stylistic thing?Philaflava wrote:i gotta find a way to word that properly.
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http://www.mediafire.com/file/q95w3tr1ncfjpq1/Featuring+Roc+Marciano.zipOK, well how would you pose it to him? "Why does Rosebudd's Revenge 1 sound bad?"drizzle wrote:affecting a lofi feel and straight up terrible mixing that buries your vocals are very different things. He has plenty of older songs with that kind of fuzz that are immaculately mixed and mastered, and there are some songs on RR1 that are a stark difference to that.Y@k Bollox wrote:Yeah, definitely tricky. He clearly likes an analogue fuzz to things though. I'm thinking of that 76 video that looks like it was shot on Super 8, the samples from old movies - maybe ask if it was an intentional stylistic thing?Philaflava wrote:i gotta find a way to word that properly.
I would ask him about his recording process and why there are noticeable differences between the sound quality of his recent projects, sometimes varying hugely from song to song.Y@k Bollox wrote:OK, well how would you pose it to him? "Why does Rosebudd's Revenge 1 sound bad?"drizzle wrote:affecting a lofi feel and straight up terrible mixing that buries your vocals are very different things. He has plenty of older songs with that kind of fuzz that are immaculately mixed and mastered, and there are some songs on RR1 that are a stark difference to that.Y@k Bollox wrote:Yeah, definitely tricky. He clearly likes an analogue fuzz to things though. I'm thinking of that 76 video that looks like it was shot on Super 8, the samples from old movies - maybe ask if it was an intentional stylistic thing?Philaflava wrote:i gotta find a way to word that properly.
Congrats man. Live or over a call?Philaflava wrote:legit questions for Roc Marci? He is doing my show next week.
