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Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:57 pm
by hellriser
Philaflava wrote:On the first listen, I can tell the production will be the biggest gripe for me. I prefer listening to Roc than any other rapper doing this shit. His voice is just more appealing than say WSG, Conway or anyone doing this kinda style (I use that term loosely). The difference is, those cats I mentioned have a dope ear for beats and have no problem working with others. Roc seems to keep to himself. His first album was his best and he handled all of the production. The 2nd album, production was almost equally as great with cuts like Death Parade, We Ill, Deeper but you also had help from ALC, Q-Tip, Ray West and a few others. I was not a fan of Marci Beaucoup and now this seems kinda uninspired. Not much digging here. It’s almost too simplistic for me.

I got no probs with the rhymes, but I wish the beats came rougher.

agree , tbh i like flygod more , production as a whole but marciano is better than wsg of course

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:18 pm
by samdoom
i agree with those that have said its a solid album but not as good as his first two. His rapping is on point, as always, but a handful of tracks, mostly in the middle of the album, suffer from a lack of drums and/or an annoying sample getting too repetitive. I also think he mixes his vocals too low compared to the beat in terms of clarity, but I think he prefers that stylistically.

overall its good to have a new album from roc marc but I can't say I'm not a little disappointed.

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:54 pm
by drizzle
the mastering on the version I've heard seems kinda shitty, I'm wondering if that's part of the negative reactions I've seen

maybe the itunes/spotify version might sound better

it's a shame because this has some of his best writing to date, tons of great one liners... but sometimes they're physically hard to make out

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:48 pm
by Versive
drizzle wrote: this has some of his best writing to date
The only thing I've agreed with so far.
"Gunsense" is my shit.

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:02 am
by DLG
yep, there's a line worth rewinding like every 5 seconds on this.

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:48 am
by DJCommunist
Loving this. Pig knuckles and burkina faso are my favorite beats but i like most of them on here. The verses are all excellent

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:17 am
by hessbz12
I'm really digging this. It's not Reloaded, but I don't find that as a bad thing. Yea, the lyrics are crazy. I downloaded it on iTunes and traveled for work this week, so I was able to listen to it all the way through a couple times so far. It's different than Reloaded, but I really like it. As someone already said, it's just nice getting new Roc material.

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:36 am
by Philaflava
history >

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:59 pm
by hessbz12
Has anyone heard if the physical CD will be available on Amazon? I saw on his site you can preorder the CD from Fat Beats, I was just curious on Amazon.

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:13 pm
by hessbz12
Nevermind, I saw where the physical CD isn't going to be released until May :owens:

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:10 pm
by Rhyme 4 Rhyme
Been through it a few times now, and overall pretty satisfied. His solo discography goes in this order in my opinion.

Reloaded
Marcberg
Pimpire Strikes Back
Rosebudd's Revenge
Marci Becoup

The first two are classics in my opinion and Pimpire is probably my favorite mixtape of all time.
drizzle wrote:the mastering on the version I've heard seems kinda shitty, I'm wondering if that's part of the negative reactions I've seen
This is my main complaint. Same shit with Becoup. I'm not sure if he's doing this intentional or not but either way, that's the only thing I dislike about this. Have no complaint about him being uninspired or anything to that degree. I think the album is well thought out and overall really creative, just the mastering continues to be an issue.
Philaflava wrote:history >
Correct.

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:46 pm
by Stieflkater
"Gunsense" sounds like shit and should have been deleted from the LP. Amateur shit...

Word to what Phila said...

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:00 pm
by hessbz12
IMHO this album gets better and better after every listen. I haven't listened to it in the car yet, but I think it sounds best in earphones. This album is way more "pimpish" than Reloaded. The beats are perfect for Roc. Still wish it was mastered a little better and that some of the beats didn't over take Roc's voice, but this is a great album.

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:27 pm
by Blockhead
"Better know" is like his version of a camp lo song.

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:39 pm
by drizzle
^^ it's definitely the fastest and most precarious cadence he has ever used, it sounds like he's running at full speed while trying hard not to loose his balance.

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:06 am
by Professor Piff
Marksmen is bananas! Roc's albums always grow on me. Lyrics start to take over the beats. I agree w/ mastering of this album.. the only killer.

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:08 am
by aeokq
^ Yeah that Marksmen beat is insane, love the grainy soulful texture to it. That spiraling guitar or whatever is so emotive. Animoss produced something special on that. Lyrics from Ka and Roc only enhance it.

This album is good, if not very good, but it falls short of being great. The final 5 tracks are average imo.

I love how Roc manipulated the sample on Killing Time at the end by chopping and speeding it up. You don't usually hear shit like that, precisely the type of original dope shit I appreciate.

Oh and yeah the mastering is kind of shitty. Much better in the headphones. I can barely hear the vocals on a couple of tracks when I'm playing it in the car. Roc is spitting his usual OG pimp shit. Nothing new, but he does it in an incredibly clever fashion.

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:44 pm
by Rhyme 4 Rhyme
Really starting to grow on me. Still not on the level of the other two, but this is a great album.

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:55 am
by Rhyme 4 Rhyme

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:09 pm
by Rhyme 4 Rhyme


Another loosie. Some french producer.

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:26 am
by DLG
that's hard.

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 10:20 pm
by Rhyme 4 Rhyme
Got an e-mail from their Roc's mailing list saying Rosebudds Revenge Pt. 2 was coming out soon. Hard to take that seriously, but still.

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 11:45 am
by Dap
played Reloaded front to back on a drive home today

100 percent classic album. at first i never thought it would top marcberg for me, but i think it has.

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 1:53 pm
by hessbz12

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 8:44 am
by Vlad Analogue
Man, the mix and master make this a borderline-intolerable listen, as heads have been saying. Ruined that metal clergy track

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 12:28 pm
by Spartan
Dap wrote:played Reloaded front to back on a drive home today

100 percent classic album. at first i never thought it would top marcberg for me, but i think it has.
Not one for dropping the word "classic" around so liberally like some folk, but Marcberg and Reloaded are are definitely up there for me.

Off the top of my head, Marciano is the only solo rapper I can think of to have dropped two back-to-back classics since Ice Cube.

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 9:44 pm
by Rhyme 4 Rhyme
Spartan wrote:
Dap wrote:played Reloaded front to back on a drive home today

100 percent classic album. at first i never thought it would top marcberg for me, but i think it has.
Not one for dropping the word "classic" around so liberally like some folk, but Marcberg and Reloaded are are definitely up there for me.

Off the top of my head, Marciano is the only solo rapper I can think of to have dropped two back-to-back classics since Ice Cube.
:sherlock:

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:17 pm
by Rhyme 4 Rhyme
https://soundcloud.com/hardtimesrecords/sets/therman-munsin-sabbath-album

Haven't listened to this but album by local dude Thermin Munson. Albums entirely produced by Roc. Doubt he gave him any of his best beats, but always worth hearing 10-12 new Roc instrumentals.

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:50 am
by DLG
beats sound good, raps no

Re: Roc Marciano thread

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:19 pm
by Dap
drizzle wrote:^^ it's definitely the fastest and most precarious cadence he has ever used, it sounds like he's running at full speed while trying hard not to loose his balance.

yeah it's really refreshing to hear him speed it up for once IMO