Canibus vs. Dizaster discussion

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:25 pm

it won't stop[/quote]

mike eagle · Post by **mike eagle** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:35 pm

there's nothing valid about this. its an underground recording artist with asperger's versus a sociopath in a slam poetry contest.

diz is the homie and i have a bunch of other homies in that scene but if this is the highlight of the accapella battle year it has as much to say about the form as it does about canibus.

step one · Post by **step one** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:38 pm

lol @ Bender bouncing off the fucking walls with excitement about this whole thing

dilla7 · Post by **dilla7** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:57 pm

http://www.twitch.tv/ns_xaviz/b/320923835
Go To 6:44:37 For The Canibus vs. Dizaster since it over 8 hours

ackbar · Post by **ackbar** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:59 pm

Employee wrote:LOL @ your faggot-based short-armed ass trying to downplay what will be one of the most talked about rap events of the year (not to mention the subsequent years during which Canibus will morph from man-to-meme).

You are such a fucking Canibus.

come on. you're a fan of these battles i assume. a vast majority of rap fans could not give a shit about any of these organized battle leagues & will completely ignore this like they've been ignoring canibus for 15 years

aeokq · Post by **aeokq** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:14 pm

I don't think Canibus could've made a bigger fool of himself. He failed on so many levels. The fact that he was in a motherfucking sling made it all the more surreal.

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:26 pm

ackbar wrote:
Employee wrote:LOL @ your faggot-based short-armed ass trying to downplay what will be one of the most talked about rap events of the year (not to mention the subsequent years during which Canibus will morph from man-to-meme).

You are such a fucking Canibus.
come on. you're a fan of these battles i assume. a vast majority of rap fans could not give a shit about any of these organized battle leagues & will completely ignore this like they've been ignoring canibus for 15 years

Yet for some reason we're smackdab in the middle of a motherfuckin' three-page banger on a Sunday, blood.

Fuck whether or not you like battling or the relevancy of the scene or battle rap's current state or you've moved on from science and are now exploring sensuality (not a knock @ you, blud; I know you keep it thorough): as a pure rap spectacle this is entertainment. Anyone who thought it was going to be anything beyond what it was is taking things a bit too seriously, sure. But to deny all the hilarity involved or to pretend you are too mature for it now is pretty gay and unbased.

still illiterate · Post by **still illiterate** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:53 pm

aeokq wrote:I don't think Canibus could've made a bigger fool of himself. He failed on so many levels. The fact that he was in a motherfucking sling made it all the more surreal.

Yeah, that was more painful then I ever imagined.

AWAE · Post by **AWAE** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:57 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote:

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:09 pm

I don't understand Canibus' "chokes" or anyone's for that matter. If you can't remember your written, move on and spit some shit off the top. Who gives a fuck if it sounds bad? Freestyle, say anything. It's a fucking battle. The fact that anyone, Bis included, would just stand there offering nothing but awkward silence is very disturbing to me.

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:28 pm

Versive wrote:I don't understand Canibus' "chokes" or anyone's for that matter. If you can't remember your written, move on and spit some shit off the top. Who gives a fuck if it sounds bad? Freestyle, say anything. It's a fucking battle. The fact that anyone, Bis included, would just stand there offering nothing but awkward silence is very disturbing to me.

the fact that some guys haven't figured this out yet is mind-boggling.

motherfucker, silence is your WORST ENEMY in these battles.

saying some wack shit is TRULY better than pulling a 'B. Rabbit in 8 Mile' choke.

cause even the best lines of all time have some stupid dickhead troll writing "I could come up with some shit better than that" in the YouTube comments

some dumb nursery rhyme punchline jokes are sometimes the most impactful lines, just said with the right delivery, you're good.

Canibus just standing there dazed and confused was the double layer of diarrhoea icing on the shitpile cake he just baked and ate in everyone's face. those raps were a lot of

and him flipping thru the book, wasting more time, was the bloody cherry on top. The combined battle minds of Rakim God Nas Allah 50 Cent Saddam couldn't return fire from the attack that Dizaster dropped when Canibus started spitting those basic bars in round 2.

I mean, Germaine Williams actually used the line "mama say mama sah, ma ma koosah", like from Michael Jackson, in this battle.

the last

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:31 pm

Is the cracker from Canada? Im trying to figure out what bender has invested in the shit.

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:35 pm

Yes, the skinny white man front and center is Organik of Toronto. King of the Dot (KOTD), the league that organized this event, is his.

Yo, the faces he and the rest of the crowd are wearing when Canibus admits defeat and explains he is going to begin reading out of his notebook are priceless.

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:45 pm

The battle posted on the last page cuts off with Bis reading "I stick dick to ya moms." Did Dizaster spit a 3rd verse?

dubs · Post by **dubs** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:49 pm

i watched the whole thing. was a dizaster all around.

Illmac was sloppy drunk, i was waiting for a fight to break out.

KOTD needs a lifeline.

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:03 pm

Versive wrote:The battle posted on the last page cuts off with Bis reading "I stick dick to ya moms." Did Dizaster spit a 3rd verse?

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah, does Dizaster EVER spit a third verse.

you NEED to find that. Jesus fucking Hell Rell's Toilet Adventure Christ, you need to get that third verse.

Canibus takes off his glasses, already admits defeat and concedes his loss to Diz... and then it's like "uh, well Dizaster probably has a third verse ready, should we let him spi-"

and before you know it, Dizaster is doing a jig and bootfuck curbstomping an already dead and decomposing body into the broken concrete.

like, it really was over in the first round.
second round, it was just a fatality.
after Diz's third? SMFH.
poor, poor Canibus.
there is not a single rapper on planet earth who is in worse shape right now than Canibus. the money means nothing. the past means nothing. the present is nothing but absoluting fucking DEPRESSING, and the future ain't gotta be looking that bright right about now.

LL Cool J is somewhere in some Hollywood mansion (like Dizaster said): laughing his fucking guts out.

@dsisive Canabis got Magnottaed.. litterally fucked & decapitated on film

"Magnottaed". yup.

mike eagle · Post by **mike eagle** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:05 pm

Versive wrote:I don't understand Canibus' "chokes" or anyone's for that matter. If you can't remember your written, move on and spit some shit off the top. Who gives a fuck if it sounds bad? Freestyle, say anything. It's a fucking battle. The fact that anyone, Bis included, would just stand there offering nothing but awkward silence is very disturbing to me.

some of that was freestyle

problem is, the quality level goes way down real fast if you're freestyling out of desperation. it basically opens the door to choking. its damn near impossible to end a round as strongly with a freestyle. especially for a dude battling in that style for the first time that only prepared three weeks

chiefbombpro · Post by **chiefbombpro** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:13 pm

Somewhere, LL is slightly amused.

iCONtheMicKing · Post by **iCONtheMicKing** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:16 pm

some people need to just keep their mystique.

it would have been far more effective if Canibus just no-showed like he normally does.

He coulda at least said he was busy time traveling through syllables or some shit.

dubs · Post by **dubs** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:16 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote:
like, it really was over in the first round.
second round, it was just a fatality.
after Diz's third? SMFH.
poor, poor Canibus.
there is not a single rapper on planet earth who is in worse shape right now than Canibus. the money means nothing. the past means nothing. the present is nothing but absoluting fucking DEPRESSING, and the future is morbidity.

fixed.

iCONtheMicKing · Post by **iCONtheMicKing** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:17 pm

Also Diz said a lot of awesome shit, too bad that part of the story is getting lost here due to the guy who raps about battling invisible rappers doing a terrible job of battling a visible one

AXEWOUNDFISTER · Post by **AXEWOUNDFISTER** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:19 pm

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/v ... yVOH4dAO91

LameAim · Post by **LameAim** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:38 pm

chiefbombpro wrote:Somewhere, LL is busy shopping for hats and generally not giving a fuck about whose garbage can Canibus is eating out of this week.

maclethal · Post by **maclethal** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:49 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote:
Philaflava wrote:Would any of you listen to either of these rappers on a real song?
that's not the point right now.

the venue being discussed is the gladiator's arena.

some MCs are able to handle the pressure. some aren't.

whether it's freestyle or written, the face-to-face conflict aspect of rap is valid.

I agree with MB.

I wouldn't listen to Isaac Brock and Jeff Tweedy try to rap battle. What's the point of referencing battle rappers' musical abilities? Also, don't front like you didn't at least pump "Beasts From the East", "2nd Round K.O." if not a few other tracks by Canibus. He had some shit in the late 90's.

Dizaster is a top 5 battle rapper in the world. Whether or not his songs are good is moot, because his battles are fantastic, and that's all he really claims to be good at.

aeokq · Post by **aeokq** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:56 pm

I'd also like to add that Organik has to be the biggest wigger in the world. Lush One isn't far behind. I don't watch those battle leagues mainly because I don't like how battling has evolved into a stand up comedy a capella shouting match. Dudes have skill though, no doubt about it. Dizaster spit some lethal shit, sent Canibus home to the grave.

Canibus is such a fuckin bitchmade amateur. It was truly difficult to watch him stand there like a fucking moron, pausing 45 seconds between bars. Then admitting defeat at the start of the third and whipping out his notebook. "I got thirty pages of rhymes in here!" Fucking jesus....

still illiterate · Post by **still illiterate** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:04 pm

that was so bad, Bus would have lost to Conspiracy in the most painful battle of all time.

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Mindbender Futurama · Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:11 pm

mike eagle wrote:
Versive wrote:I don't understand Canibus' "chokes" or anyone's for that matter. If you can't remember your written, move on and spit some shit off the top. Who gives a fuck if it sounds bad? Freestyle, say anything. It's a fucking battle. The fact that anyone, Bis included, would just stand there offering nothing but awkward silence is very disturbing to me.
some of that was freestyle

problem is, the quality level goes way down real fast if you're freestyling out of desperation. it basically opens the door to choking. its damn near impossible to end a round as strongly with a freestyle. especially for a dude battling in that style for the first time that only prepared three weeks

sometimes, this is true, sometimes not.

occasionally, one of these battle rapper's freestyle rebuttals will be 2 or 4 bars of absolute dynamite, that is more of a hard hitting line than some written set-up.

like Dizaster couldn't have known Canibus was going to wear an arm sling. So when he freestyled "you hit yourself in the chest so hard, your shoulders touched" and everyone was like

, it was better than some other great lines he spit, like the one about Wyclef.

if you have prepared your battle mind, your vocabulary and your powers of observation enough, you can come up with a spontaneous rebuttal that's as strong as some of your writtens, and never have a moment of silence in your verse, whether you are freestyling or spitting writtens. but it takes ELEVATED SKILL.

you can see Dizaster at the end, choosing how he wanted to FINISH HIM.

and you can almost see his mind processing the infinite possibilities of the moment, like "what can I say about this vs. what did I plan to say about it? hmmmm... let's go with: I PUT CANIBUS IN A BOX AND LL COOL J IS A FAGGOT, just cause it's completely fun and games now"

Mindbender Futurama · Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:16 pm

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:58 pm

mike eagle wrote:
Versive wrote:I don't understand Canibus' "chokes" or anyone's for that matter. If you can't remember your written, move on and spit some shit off the top. Who gives a fuck if it sounds bad? Freestyle, say anything. It's a fucking battle. The fact that anyone, Bis included, would just stand there offering nothing but awkward silence is very disturbing to me.
some of that was freestyle

problem is, the quality level goes way down real fast if you're freestyling out of desperation. it basically opens the door to choking. its damn near impossible to end a round as strongly with a freestyle. especially for a dude battling in that style for the first time that only prepared three weeks

I know some of Dizaster's was off the top, but it was hard to tell with Canibus since there was so much time in between each of his bars anyway. I understand what you're saying and agree with you, but anything's better than dead air, you know?

mike eagle · Post by **mike eagle** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:12 pm

Mindbender Futurama wrote:
mike eagle wrote:
Versive wrote:I don't understand Canibus' "chokes" or anyone's for that matter. If you can't remember your written, move on and spit some shit off the top. Who gives a fuck if it sounds bad? Freestyle, say anything. It's a fucking battle. The fact that anyone, Bis included, would just stand there offering nothing but awkward silence is very disturbing to me.
some of that was freestyle

problem is, the quality level goes way down real fast if you're freestyling out of desperation. it basically opens the door to choking. its damn near impossible to end a round as strongly with a freestyle. especially for a dude battling in that style for the first time that only prepared three weeks
sometimes, this is true, sometimes not.

occasionally, one of these battle rapper's freestyle rebuttals will be 2 or 4 bars of absolute dynamite, that is more of a hard hitting line than some written set-up.

like Dizaster couldn't have known Canibus was going to wear an arm sling. So when he freestyled "you hit yourself in the chest so hard, your shoulders touched" and everyone was like , it was better than some other great lines he spit, like the one about Wyclef.

if you have prepared your battle mind, your vocabulary and your powers of observation enough, you can come up with a spontaneous rebuttal that's as strong as some of your writtens, and never have a moment of silence in your verse, whether you are freestyling or spitting writtens. but it takes ELEVATED SKILL.

you can see Dizaster at the end, choosing how he wanted to FINISH HIM.

and you can almost see his mind processing the infinite possibilities of the moment, like "what can I say about this vs. what did I plan to say about it? hmmmm... let's go with: I PUT CANIBUS IN A BOX AND LL COOL J IS A FAGGOT, just cause it's completely fun and games now"

it takes preparing for more than three weeks for your first go round to pull that off. thats my entire point