Lil Ugly Mane 2013 thread

[Versive]

thanks for the mix btw versive

[sleazy_j]

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[DLG]

this sounds like some atoms family shit

[catfish hunter]

dope

[DLG]

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[Versive]

https://www.facebook.com/snakeaccident" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

LUM PRE-SALE BOX SETS IN AN EDITION OF 200. WILL LOOK LIKE THE BELOW. (NOTE: IMAGE IS A MOCK UP, AND I SUCK AT PHOTOSHOP)

**PRE-ORDER BOX COVER DESIGNED BY CALI THORNHILL-DEWITT

THE LIL UGLY MANE ANTHOLOGY BOX SET (RIP) WILL CONSIST OF:

•4 LP'S

•2 OF THE LPS WILL CONTAIN NEW/UNRELEASED/RARE MATERIAL.

•1 OF SAID RELEASES BEING A BRAND NEW FULL ON UGLY / SHAWN KEMP CRUSHER.

•THE OTHER A SURPRISE COLLABORATION FULL OF SECRET(S)/RARITIES/OTHERWISE GOOD NEW YOU WILL LIKE.

•1 LP COMPILING ALL OF LUM THE SINGLES.

•1 LP EDITION OF PLAYAZ CIRCLE.

AS WELL AS 4 CASSETTES

•1 EDITION OF THE NEW LP ON CASSETTE.

•1 EDITION OF THE OTHER NEW LP ON CASSETTE.

•A CASSETTE EDITION OF PLAYAZ CIRCLE.

•A CASSETTE OF INSTRUMENTALS, ODDITIES, WHATEVER FITS.

ALSO 3 EMBROIDERED PATCHES, DEISIGNS FORTHCOMING.
A LUM/ORM BANDANA
A FULL GATEFOLD WALL SIZED POSTER

XO
ORM/LUM

FOR THE SPECIAL "COLLECTORS" EDITIONS.

AS WE ALL KNOW I AM NOT SUPER DOWN WITH COLLECTOR/HOARDER/RESELLERS. HOWEVER, IN THIS CASE, HERE IS A LABEL AND ARTIST DIRECTLY SELLING SOME MEMORABILIA TO A HANDFUL OF YOU COLLECTORS TO SPECIFICALLY RAISE MONEY TO PRODUCE THE BOX SET EN MASSE FOR ALL WHO WANT IT. DON'T FLIP THESE PLEASE. DON'T TREAT THEM LIKE CURRENCY. BUY THEM IF YOU ARE THE ULTIMATE PURIST WHO LOVES UGLY MANE AND THIS PROJECT WE ALL SUPPORT.

THERE WILL BE 10 BOX SETS CONTAINTING EVERYTHING LISTED BELOW AND:

•A SHORT SLEEVE BLACK T-SHIRT WITH THE CALI THORNHILL-DEWITT EPITAPH ON THE BACK, AND "UGLY" ON THE LEFT FRONT BREAST.

•THE FIRST 5 OF THE 10 WILL CONTAIN TEST PRESSINGS OF THE ANTWON/LUM/DJ DOG DICK FLEXI. AS WELL AS TEST PRESSINGS OF THE "ON DOING AN EVIL DEED BLUES" 7" AND TEST PRESSINGS OF ALL THE NEW VINYL.
--
CUSTOMIZED BY MYSELF FOR YOU INDIVIDUALLY.

•ALL 10 SPECIAL EDITIONS WILL CONTAIN 1ST PRESSINGS OF THE MISTA THUG ISOLATION 2 X LP ON HUDEBISS.

I WILL POST THESE UP AS 1 DAY AUCTIONS EACH ON EBAY AS OF DEC. 31 ENDING 10 DAYS LATER. 24 HOUR AUCTIONS. AGAIN! THIS MONEY GOES DIRECTLY TO THE DOWNPAYMENT FOR THE QUICK MANUFACTURE OF THE STANDARD NON-PRE-ORDER EDITION OF THE LUM BOX SET. THE STARTING BID WILL BE 175$ ON EACH, FUCK IT.

XO
ORM/LUM

*WHO KNOWS, MAYBE WE WILL HAVE A BBQ IN NYC AND INVITE ADULT MOAN TO PERFOM?

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[Versive]

Pre-orders are gone. Special Collectors' Editions are fetching upwards of $1000 on ebay. Shit's crazy.
Travis Miller.

[DLG]

white people

[Ned Ryerson]

yeah the first ebay bid went for 1450.... the preorders weren't cheap either and they went in a few hours

[Versive]

Last week when I found that facebook post referencing Adult Moan it got me digging. This continued on and off for days. Here is what I found:

-22 previously uploaded but mostly unknown songs by Travis Miller aka Lil Ugly Mane aka Shawn Kemp aka The Complaint Register aka Across aka Adult Moan aka Spook Lo aka Yung Gus (of The Legacy) aka Sex of Distance aka GKRL
-some live performance video and audio
-numerous album covers and other works of art, some digital, some watercolor

For the LUM completists out there, I've ripped and zipped it all along with a document containing links to all of my sources: https://www.mediafire.com/?nvp00g6pwp3udof" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Some background info so you know what you're getting yourself into: The Legacy is a rap duo featuring a very young Travis Miller (then known as Yung Gus) rapping alongside some kid named Comatose. Spook Lo is an even younger Travis Miller rapping as a juggalo. The Complaint Register is an ongoing project collecting all of Miller's current non-LUM shit - http://thecomplaintregister.bandcamp.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. Across is Travis Miller's harsh noise project featured at the start of Mista Thug Isolation. Adult Moan is childish performance art stuff involving Travis and some other dude. Sex of Distance is industrial. GKRL is techno.

Enjoy.

[sleazy_j]

damn, dude.

i didn't know about that The Legacy stuff, and Google brought me no results. Good job.

[Versive]

Thanks! Yeah, The Legacy songs are pretty cool because you can hear Travis (then known as Yung Gus) starting to develop the Ugly sound, and he even uses some of the same lyrics we've heard on Mista Thug Isolation and Uneven Compromise, albeit older, rougher versions of these bars.

I ripped these songs from myspace pages using Audacity. The URLs are in the sources doc.

Don't sleep on the previously unreleased Shawn Kemp song also included in there, which is credited as featuring Lil Ugly Mane, with Travis using his normal voice and some other bars that have since appeared on Ugly tracks.

[seagrams hotsauce]

Damn versive, that's impressive borderlining on scary my dude. Thanks

[Versive]

Hahaha, yes, the word stalker came to mind several times while working on this. But whatever. If I can't afford to pay $1000 for a box set, I'll make one. I do hope somebody bootlegs that though.

[DLG]

the Legacy stuff sounds like he listened to a lot of Nonphixion

[Versive]

Agreed, not surprising either, considering they shared influences of '90s east coast boom-bap and black/death metal.

I actually like some of the GKRL and Sex of Distance stuff a good amount too, weird as it is.

[hellriser]

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lil-Ugly ... 92?fref=ts" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

he is back.....

[jon0h]

My first time hearing of this guy/project/compilation of artists, whatever this/he is, and I'm a bit disappointed. Really just because of the Nickelus dude, just heard some stuff on Bandcamp from him and I wanna hear more, anybody got recommendations on where to look for his material?

[Versive]

My first time hearing of this guy/project/compilation of artists, whatever this/he is, and I'm a bit disappointed. Really just because of the Nickelus dude, just heard some stuff on Bandcamp from him and I wanna hear more, anybody got recommendations on where to look for his material?

Nickelus F is not Lil Ugly Mane. However, the two of them have done a bunch of music together and are supposed to be releasing a full-length album together at some point this year. More Nickelus F talk/uploads here: http://www.philaflava.com/forum/viewtop ... 1&t=137228" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

Lil Ugly Mane is one man(e), a rapper/producer (real name: Travis Miller) from the Richmond area. As far as the larger rap world is concerned, he basically came out of nowhere with the release of his 2012 album Mista Thug Isolation: https://liluglymane.bandcamp.com/album/ ... -isolation" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. Really though, he'd been around for a while releasing rap and non-rap projects online through various identities.

[hellriser]

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[Versive]

Soundcloud tracks are public again too

[ackbar]

the new tape is pretty dope. all over the place, mostly instrumental.. samples freaked at different tempos & diff genres

[sleazy_j]

so this is another odd ugly mane side project from way back



only recently came across this one too. he raps on this.

[Versive]

I was put on to that Twance Cop bullshit after posting my Always Been Here compilation on the Ormolycka FB page. Ridiculous.

Did a news story on the new release this morning: http://www.tinymixtapes.com/news/lil-ug ... stratfordi" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I've basically been trying to troll this dude into granting me an interview. We'll see...

[TheTed]

The album is seemingly coming in June:

after the oblivion gets accessed in june

[jon0h]

i had never heard of dude until yesterday on this thread, listened to the three sided tape today. as of today i'm a fan, eager to hear some of his older shyt, any suggs?

[B. Ware tha Siniq]

definitely start with Mista Thug Isolation and check out other stuff from there. To me, that's by far his best project.

[Money Daniels]

The album is seemingly coming in June:

after the oblivion gets accessed in june

The snippets from the new album sound great.

[Money Daniels]

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Why Did One Of The Internet’s Most Creative Rappers Quit?

Lil Ugly Mane surprise-released a mixtape of old songs yesterday, but he hasn’t put out any new music since retiring in 2013. Here’s what his drawn-out exodus says about rap.

I was worrying about how good things are fleeting the other afternoon when I thought of Lil Ugly Mane. He was a rapper and producer from Richmond, Virginia, though he doesn’t do either of those things anymore, at least publicly. Before rap, he made noise and hardcore music. Now, after rap, who knows? But from 2011 to 2013, he was one of the genre’s most aesthetically refined artists. His lyrics were morbid and aggressive, sometimes to a comic degree; his voice was almost always pitched-down, so his tongue sounded swollen. As a producer, he possessed an uncanny ability to make samples or synths sound deranged, like Three 6 Mafia did in the ’90s but also like Arca does today. (His beats were often credited to Shawn Kemp, another alias; his real name is Travis Miller.) Together, the style and substance of his music conjures something like a wounded predator that still wants to kill you even though it’s about to die itself.

My favorite Lil Ugly Mane track was his last single, “On Doing an Evil Deed Blues,” a seven-minute swan song that explained his decision to retire the project. In 2013, he was at a sort of tipping point—acclaimed by enough fans of the avant-garde that major publications, show bookers, and labels would soon be forced to acknowledge him—though he seemed actively opposed to the music business, beyond always charging a few dollars for his tunes. (I wrote about him once, but my pitches for bigger features were always rejected. The lack of coverage elsewhere can perhaps be attributed to some combination of his being a white rapper, not employing a PR, and just being so out-there.) In a Facebook post at the time, he talked about the meaning behind “Evil Deed” and outlined meta-storylines inscribed by its beat, but you can get the basic gist from the hook: I got some records, cut some samples, made em mine/ I wrote some raps, I had a couple fire lines/ A couple labels asked me if I want to sign/ But rapping ain't my grind, I just used to like to rhyme. Like the last voicemail from an ex, or something, it’s the sort of goodbye I’ve always wanted to keep saved on my phone.

Shortly after “Evil Deed,” he made some last posts to his Facebook page, including one connecting graffiti’s disappearance as an element of hip-hop to what he perceived as destructive egotism among artists of the genre’s present. “You forgot about the concept of taking a name, throwing it on a wall, and walking away and letting that piece speak entirely for itself,” he wrote. That’d be his strategy. For two years, he said nothing. There were some quiet releases—a collection of instrumentals and a “secret B-side”—and some beats for other people, but nothing substantial. On his Bandcamp, the bio called Lil Ugly Mane “defunct” and promised a final release and boxset with the Ormolycka label. As the years passed, that idea, too, seemed abandoned.
Then Lil Ugly Mane did something unexpected: this week he dropped a two-hour-long mixtape called Third Side of Tape, the final part of a trilogy that he had begun and left hanging in 2013. This installment compiles recordings from 1999-2012, according to its album art, in a varied mix of original productions and hard-to-trace songs by others waiting to be flipped anew. He raps for, like, five minutes on the whole thing; in its place, there are referential samples. One of the biggest gut-punches arrives shortly into “Side Two-A,” involving a sampled line from a 1999 release from Sunz of Man, a group signed to Wu-Tang’s label in the late ’90s. It’s typically heady and sad—Hate to go to the sleep because of the dread that’s in my head—repeated for minutes in Shabazz The Disciple’s squirrely voice as the beat mutations move from turntable jazz to jungle. Next, there’s a punk song, then an old a cappella version of someone covering Harry Belafonte's "Jamaica Farewell.”

As much as the surprise-release is exciting, Third Side of Tape is also bittersweet, since its liner notes finally name and give a release date to the boxset that will likely mark the actual end of Lil Ugly Mane’s career: Oblivion Access, out this June. You want to look forward to it, but you also don’t.

Before he went even more underground, in 2013, Lil Ugly Mane only ever gave a handful of interviews. One was to Mishka, who he told, “Making the cover is the best part of making music. I feel like I've started projects in the past just cause I had made a cover and wanted to use it for something.” It’s understandable, then, that during his quiet period, he continued releasing installments of a clothing collaboration with Thunder Zone, the label run by the Milwaukee rap-rocker Juiceboxxx. Their takes on hip-hop couldn’t be further apart, but they’re an illuminating pairing: Juice is another guy with a deep catalogue of idiosyncratic music, and interest in noise music, and he partakes in a similarly doomed kind of introspection. On the outro to a Juiceboxxx tape released the same year as Lil Ugly Mane’s “Evil Deed,” Juiceboxxx shouted over the horns from an SNL credit sequence, “I don’t know what the fuck I’m going to do next, man. Maybe go to college, start calling myself John… Rewind the tape, start over.” He’s still releasing music, but not without sprinkling in songs like this spring’s “Might Stop Rapping (Might Get a Real Job).”

For both of these guys, it’s easy to see how the business of art can feel like a dead end. For every year that passes, being a 30-year-old rapper seems less appealing; it’s unfortunate and backwards, but an artist is rarely more commercially valuable than when they’re new. At times, the whole economy of new music feels like planned obsolescence. And so it is that, like the cult electronic pop duo Air France, who published a letter of retirement after collapsing under the weight of the pressure to make an album that felt original, or the blog Hipster Runoff, which self-combusted after too much self-analysis, Lil Ugly Mane is making the winding-down of his career a commentary about its own non-viability. Listening to the disparate Third Side of Tape, you’re sort of forced to compare your own rolodex of reference points to Lil Ugly Mane’s. In my case, it makes me feel like I know nothing. It’s hard to imagine him going creatively bankrupt. So maybe I’m being crazy, and overlooking the lamer and self-satisfied aspects of his whole drawn-out exodus, but I really like to think that Lil Ugly Mane’s quitting is about what he says: how incompatible his arty vision of rap was with the reality of releasing music, even if that’s just personal stress when a few thousand strangers start having expectations of you.

Beyond the announcement of Oblivion Access, the liner notes to Third Side of Tape call back to “Evil Deed.” He says that “I Quit” by The Descendents is a better song, and that had he listened to it first, he “would have probably just posted a YouTube version of that song and a link to the Google image results for ‘Dalai Lama laughing’ rather than spending any time whatsoever making my own song.” Like a lot of Lil Ugly Mane’s stuff, that's funny and sad, and it’s a joke I'm still glad he made.

[hellriser]

his album would be out somewhere this month