Blue Sky Black Death & S.A.S. – Valley Of Death Ft. Cam’ron

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Wed May 08, 2013 12:55 pm

http://bsbd.bandcamp.com/track/valley-o ... a-p-i-nore

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Wed May 08, 2013 1:18 pm

Dap · Post by **Dap** » Wed May 08, 2013 1:24 pm

dope shit

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Wed May 08, 2013 2:21 pm

Dope but the Cam'ron verse is recycled

Maybe now you guys will believe me when I tell you this album is awesome.

...No? It still sucks? OK, I tried.

ANU · Post by **ANU** » Wed May 08, 2013 2:51 pm

was gonna say cam' didn't sound this good in years...

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Wed May 08, 2013 2:56 pm

i figured cam would either mail it in or reuse something, considering the nature of this thing. kinda glad it's the latter - i know bsbd were really cyced for this song so at least they got a good verse, even if it's not brand new. considering that general disappointment with Crime Pays will make the re-use less noticeable (as is obvious from the reaction to the song), it works well all around

ape9 · Post by **ape9** » Wed May 08, 2013 3:27 pm

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Wed May 08, 2013 6:02 pm

Versive wrote:Dope but the Cam'ron verse is recycled

Maybe now you guys will believe me when I tell you this album is awesome.

...No? It still sucks? OK, I tried.

Yeah, i'm counting til young nova comes in here and says somethin'

ScholarWenis · Post by **ScholarWenis** » Wed May 08, 2013 6:46 pm

dope!

young nova · Post by **young nova** » Wed May 08, 2013 8:16 pm

lol i was gonna say this isnt me, the cam verse doesnt fit cuz the og beat is in triplets and this beat isnt.

young god · Post by **young god** » Wed May 08, 2013 8:24 pm

he re rapped it, I guess, cuz that's not the beat he rapped on, bro.

young nova · Post by **young nova** » Wed May 08, 2013 8:30 pm

i dont think so man it has all the original adlibs

young nova · Post by **young nova** » Wed May 08, 2013 8:40 pm

ur the producer of this song right?

GentleJonesReturns · Post by **GentleJonesReturns** » Wed May 08, 2013 9:16 pm

Kid That's Lifeless · Post by **Kid That's Lifeless** » Wed May 08, 2013 9:24 pm

young god · Post by **young god** » Thu May 09, 2013 1:48 am

Yeah. We're a duo, though.

young god · Post by **young god** » Thu May 09, 2013 2:40 am

It was DEFINITELY recorded again. I've listened to our track a millions times, the intonations are totally different. Flow, too. His flow is on beat on our song.

young god · Post by **young god** » Thu May 09, 2013 2:42 am

Also, His verse on this only uses part of that verse on Cookin up.

Harry Hater · Post by **Harry Hater** » Thu May 09, 2013 2:47 am

Good shit young god. when are we gonna see that key nyata album?

lol @ young nova. cmon son, you love to argue dont you? bet you respond with "no I dont."

young nova · Post by **young nova** » Thu May 09, 2013 8:59 am

young god wrote:It was DEFINITELY recorded again. I've listened to our track a millions times, the intonations are totally different. Flow, too. His flow is on beat on our song.

Its not that its off beat per se its just a time signature issue. U really don't notice all the same adlibs?

DLG · Post by **DLG** » Thu May 09, 2013 9:13 am

young nova wrote:
young god wrote:It was DEFINITELY recorded again. I've listened to our track a millions times, the intonations are totally different. Flow, too. His flow is on beat on our song.
Its not that its off beat per se its just a time signature issue.

there's a triplet feel in the original one, but it's not a 3/4 or 6/8 beat or anything. you're reaching god

young nova · Post by **young nova** » Thu May 09, 2013 9:26 am

Lol ok ur right its not

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Thu May 09, 2013 11:25 am

Thread is meta. Remember this from a few days ago?

ardamus wrote:
sleazy_j wrote:^that's what had me confused and googling this dude in the first place. i thought that he was in bsbd.

Blue Sky Black Death.

producers from Seattle. Isn't that where you're originally from???
I knew someone on here was gonna mix them up.

Versive wrote:
Blockhead wrote:
Versive wrote:I don't care about any of this fuckboy bickering but what songs did nova and/or his bsbd affiliates do for cam that came out?

I think you're thinking of Young god, who's is Bsbd.
Correct never mind

Now you two are in the same thread debating whether a Cam verse was rerecorded or simply recycled from a YN song to a YG song. I'm buggin.

young nova · Post by **young nova** » Thu May 09, 2013 12:24 pm

I kno that's funny the odds of this happening seems astronomically low. If their in seattle they prolly live at most 15min away from me too.

GentleJonesReturns · Post by **GentleJonesReturns** » Thu May 09, 2013 12:33 pm

Versive wrote:Thread is meta.

young god · Post by **young god** » Thu May 09, 2013 1:02 pm

Where do you live? I live in Oakland now, but my partner still lives in Seattle.

If you listen to the whole thing in our song it ends entirely different from Cooking Up. Using the same adlibs doesn't prove anything. Rapper's adlibs become just as much a part of the song as their lyrics. For example, if I'm recording with Nacho, he'd literally do that same adlibs on a track if we came back to it a week later. Also His intonations are entirely different, and it only uses about 3/4 of the verse in our track. I could prove this by sending you the materials, but, for obvious reasons I can't do that. I'm not really trying to get into a long winded argument about it, cuz I shouldn't even care haha, but this is pretty damn funny that this is happening.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Thu May 09, 2013 1:15 pm

^^ here's the transcription of Cooking Up, maybe of the lyrics on VoK were re-used if that

http://rapgenius.com/Camron-cookin-up-lyrics

young nova · Post by **young nova** » Thu May 09, 2013 1:22 pm

young god wrote:Where do you live? I live in Oakland now, but my partner still lives in Seattle.

If you listen to the whole thing in our song it ends entirely different from Cooking Up. Using the same adlibs doesn't prove anything. Rapper's adlibs become just as much a part of the song as their lyrics. For example, if I'm recording with Nacho, he'd literally do that same adlibs on a track if we came back to it a week later. Also His intonations are entirely different, and it only uses about 3/4 of the verse in our track. I could prove this by sending you the materials, but, for obvious reasons I can't do that. I'm not really trying to get into a long winded argument about it, cuz I shouldn't even care haha, but this is pretty damn funny that this is happening.

I live in kirkland just outside of seattle
Ur thinking of a rapper that's taking a bunch of time to record not someone like cam. I'm assuming u purchased this verse or was it a feature u got thru sas? I only listened for a second but it really didn't sound like it was recorded to this beat at all.

b.radio · Post by **b.radio** » Thu May 09, 2013 2:56 pm

this young god/nova shit is uncanny

young god · Post by **young god** » Thu May 09, 2013 7:56 pm

We didn't purchase it, SAS had it from a while back. The nore chorus is recent and was recorded on our beat, though. If you "only listened for a second" then you must just really like to argue. The verse ends differently. it's as simple as that. What more proof do you need?

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