Hipsters Writing About hip Hop Culture

[ardamus]

Who's gonna take the bait on this first? Let's make some bets......
http://raprehab.com/why-hipsters-need-t ... p-culture/

Waxing poetic spoke about Chief Keef’s brilliance while ignoring the depressing realities the rapper’s music reflects is a luxury only a clueless, disconnected snob can afford. While you arrogant clowns absolve yourselves of any accountability by arguing against the moralizing of art, misguided kids are trying to live out the lyrics to songs you and your grad school homies party to. While you celebrate Gucci Mane’s reckless abandon as the ultimate display of counter-culture cool, the artist known as Radric Davis is spiraling downwards, in and out of jail, and in my estimation, in need of serious therapy. Magically, the average garden-variety trap rapper becomes your personal virtual tour guide through Anyhood, USA wherein you can live your wildest “ghetto” fantasies vicariously, “fuck as many bitches” as you want, make it rain on the baddest chicks, hold heat, sip a little lean (which you’ve probably already tried with your best friend Ethan and some free-spirited blonde named Dakota one boring Saturday night)…all while finally experiencing the liberating sensation of dropping the N word at will. One can only dream, right? And then it’s back to your regular life as an espresso-sipping, greasy combed-over-haired, trust-fund dick head who’d piss your pants if you ever found yourself face to face with the very same hood characters you get hard daydreaming about.

[Larry2times]

This has done the rounds a good bit this past week, which is very impressive considering its from the same dude who wrote 6 Ways to Stop Your Child from Being Brainwashed By Mainstream Rap and it hardly being groundbreaking trolling.

That sites got lulz on lulz, Ive been checking it occasionally since tbh.

[Career Over Like Mike(NJJ)]

Grip Plyaz really picked the right time to re-release Fuck That Hipster Shit

http://www.audiomack.com/song/ballers-e ... -j-padrone

[Jedisdope]

if that was my dad i'd prob hate rap and be a huge metal head or something.

[Versive]

I'm starting to prefer the term yuppie

[EMCEE DARTH MALEK]

if that was my dad i'd prob hate rap and be a huge metal head or something.

hip hop simon pegg is a genius

pop quiz your kids: what was the release date of midnight marauders? if they don't know, punish em

[Blockhead]

Wicked's kid is gonna be troubled.

[zombie]

came into this topic thinking that the discussion was going to be about people on this board.

[unbelievable dickhead]

fhahbh. for hipsters about hipsters by hipsters

[Mindbender Futurama]

Who's gonna take the bait on this first? Let's make some bets......
http://raprehab.com/why-hipsters-need-t ... p-culture/

Waxing poetic spoke about Chief Keef’s brilliance while ignoring the depressing realities the rapper’s music reflects is a luxury only a clueless, disconnected snob can afford. While you arrogant clowns absolve yourselves of any accountability by arguing against the moralizing of art, misguided kids are trying to live out the lyrics to songs you and your grad school homies party to. While you celebrate Gucci Mane’s reckless abandon as the ultimate display of counter-culture cool, the artist known as Radric Davis is spiraling downwards, in and out of jail, and in my estimation, in need of serious therapy. Magically, the average garden-variety trap rapper becomes your personal virtual tour guide through Anyhood, USA wherein you can live your wildest “ghetto” fantasies vicariously, “fuck as many bitches” as you want, make it rain on the baddest chicks, hold heat, sip a little lean (which you’ve probably already tried with your best friend Ethan and some free-spirited blonde named Dakota one boring Saturday night)…all while finally experiencing the liberating sensation of dropping the N word at will. One can only dream, right? And then it’s back to your regular life as an espresso-sipping, greasy combed-over-haired, trust-fund dick head who’d piss your pants if you ever found yourself face to face with the very same hood characters you get hard daydreaming about.

this hits the fucking bullseye, though.

you got motherfuckers who LIVED AND BREATHED this rap culture shit since it was a fad begging to crawl out of the dirt on the fringes of media awareness while some smarmy pseudo-intelligent hack with a fleeting interest in Action Bronson and A$AP Mob again after abandoning hip hop since Anticon became irrelevant to the underground just got drunk on a Saturday night with the right editor from the right blog, and voila! You got your new hip hop writer.

he's white, he's middle-class, he's non-threatening, and he's at all the cool places with all the cool people.

this shit is true in Toronto, where MOST of the most widely read rap journalists are white guys who could easily be considered hipsters. twenty-somethings that wouldn't be caught dead in a rap show actually singing any lyrics, but they certainly will be found at the bar, drinking a Pabst Blue Ribbon.

[Y@k Bollocks]

this shit is true in Toronto, where MOST of the most widely read rap journalists are white guys who could easily be considered hipsters. twenty-somethings that wouldn't be caught dead in a rap show actually singing any lyrics, but they certainly will be found at the bar, drinking a Pabst Blue Ribbon.

I think that says more about Toronto's scene than anything else, no?

[wuk]

PBR was a hipster beer in like 2003.

It's a dangerous line we draw when talking about who can and can't write about or participate in a culture. Ultimately who gives a shit? There is an audience for everyone and everything. Don't like A? Listen to B. Don't agree with X's reviews? Write your own or just read Y or Z.

[wuk]

PBR was a hipster beer in like 2003.

It's a dangerous line we draw when talking about who can and can't write about or participate in a culture. Ultimately who gives a shit? There is an audience for everyone and everything. Don't like A? Listen to B. Don't agree with X's reviews? Write your own or just read Y or Z.

[Mindbender Futurama]

PBR was a hipster beer in like 2003.

It's a dangerous line we draw when talking about who can and can't write about or participate in a culture. Ultimately who gives a shit? There is an audience for everyone and everything. Don't like A? Listen to B. Don't agree with X's reviews? Write your own or just read Y or Z.

yeah, true.

but there IS a thing regarding the phenomenon of white people getting paid to talk about hip hop culture like they know more about it than anyone else. that IS a reality in media, not only in Toronto, but in places across America. I see lots of white writers and non-black writers getting work, and hearing shit about black artists and black people still unemployed or underemployed. lots of the writers at the famous hip hop magazines didn't go on to get more work. not everyone was able to do what Elliott Wilson from XXL did, and make a RapRadar. some of the writers I used to love from Vibe Magazine and The Source and EgoTrip and such magazine are not writing anymore. but there's no end to the amount of white writers I see getting work in online music journalism.

that shit about Kool Herc having to work at the post office a few years ago is EXACTLY the deal.
I bet NO white rock and roller from any major founding group is struggling to eat right now.
meanwhile, Jean Grae was selling verses for $500 and now is creating art in like 3 other genres cause she isn't getting respect in the music industry. black people are struggling on every level to get privileges and paid in the arts.

I know they aren't writers, but their story is not much different than the writers.
Internet comes in, takes jobs from people.
Internet jobs take over non-internet jobs, as in white people connected to certain websites (like Complex or HipHopDX or whatever hot blog been poppin for the last 6 months) can just scoop up the work and the benefits and leave other educated and invested black/latino folks out of work and out of the loop.

In the past 15 years, it happened to the journalism industry and it happened to the music industry, plus others.

doesn't matter if Pabst was a 2003 beer, they're still drinking it to be like "yeah, it's played out. that's what makes it FUNNY that i'm drinking it". Hipsters love to obsess over something played out until it's fucking DEAD, and then talk more shit about it, because they are accomplices in helping to make it die from being lamely overwrought and exploited into extinction.

do you know how long it took for the word 'sw@g' to get played out? jeeeeeeeeeezus christ, no word in rap history ever has so many unnecessary resurrections and ironic extensions. fucking hipsters, SMH LOL

[step one]

LoL at Bender thinking there aren't white musicians struggling.
Fucking racist idiot.

[The Rapping Coffin]

Who's gonna take the bait on this first? Let's make some bets......
http://raprehab.com/why-hipsters-need-t ... p-culture/

Waxing poetic spoke about Chief Keef’s brilliance while ignoring the depressing realities the rapper’s music reflects is a luxury only a clueless, disconnected snob can afford. While you arrogant clowns absolve yourselves of any accountability by arguing against the moralizing of art, misguided kids are trying to live out the lyrics to songs you and your grad school homies party to. While you celebrate Gucci Mane’s reckless abandon as the ultimate display of counter-culture cool, the artist known as Radric Davis is spiraling downwards, in and out of jail, and in my estimation, in need of serious therapy. Magically, the average garden-variety trap rapper becomes your personal virtual tour guide through Anyhood, USA wherein you can live your wildest “ghetto” fantasies vicariously, “fuck as many bitches” as you want, make it rain on the baddest chicks, hold heat, sip a little lean (which you’ve probably already tried with your best friend Ethan and some free-spirited blonde named Dakota one boring Saturday night)…all while finally experiencing the liberating sensation of dropping the N word at will. One can only dream, right? And then it’s back to your regular life as an espresso-sipping, greasy combed-over-haired, trust-fund dick head who’d piss your pants if you ever found yourself face to face with the very same hood characters you get hard daydreaming about.

thankful we have people like this ^^^ french guy to save us from bad raps



this guy should join up with jaz and start the real hip hops bork avengers

[ackbar]

PBR was a hipster beer in like 2003.

It's a dangerous line we draw when talking about who can and can't write about or participate in a culture. Ultimately who gives a shit? There is an audience for everyone and everything. Don't like A? Listen to B. Don't agree with X's reviews? Write your own or just read Y or Z.

yeah, true.

but there IS a thing regarding the phenomenon of white people getting paid to talk about hip hop culture like they know more about it than anyone else. that IS a reality in media, not only in Toronto, but in places across America. I see lots of white writers and non-black writers getting work, and hearing shit about black artists and black people still unemployed or underemployed. lots of the writers at the famous hip hop magazines didn't go on to get more work. not everyone was able to do what Elliott Wilson from XXL did, and make a RapRadar. some of the writers I used to love from Vibe Magazine and The Source and EgoTrip and such magazine are not writing anymore. but there's no end to the amount of white writers I see getting work in online music journalism.

that shit about Kool Herc having to work at the post office a few years ago is EXACTLY the deal.
I bet NO white rock and roller from any major founding group is struggling to eat right now.
meanwhile, Jean Grae was selling verses for $500 and now is creating art in like 3 other genres cause she isn't getting respect in the music industry. black people are struggling on every level to get privileges and paid in the arts.

I know they aren't writers, but their story is not much different than the writers.
Internet comes in, takes jobs from people.
Internet jobs take over non-internet jobs, as in white people connected to certain websites (like Complex or HipHopDX or whatever hot blog been poppin for the last 6 months) can just scoop up the work and the benefits and leave other educated and invested black/latino folks out of work and out of the loop.

In the past 15 years, it happened to the journalism industry and it happened to the music industry, plus others.

doesn't matter if Pabst was a 2003 beer, they're still drinking it to be like "yeah, it's played out. that's what makes it FUNNY that i'm drinking it". Hipsters love to obsess over something played out until it's fucking DEAD, and then talk more shit about it, because they are accomplices in helping to make it die from being lamely overwrought and exploited into extinction.

do you know how long it took for the word 'sw@g' to get played out? jeeeeeeeeeezus christ, no word in rap history ever has so many unnecessary resurrections and ironic extensions. fucking hipsters, SMH LOL

a. You are aware that all of the "golden era" publications you name dropped (The Source, Vibe, egotrip, XXL) employed white people right? Many of them even had white editors and some of them where founded by white people.

b. Jean Grae doesn't make good music.

c. Don't worry about Complex or Pitchfork. What are your favourite rap blogs? Who are your favourite unsung black rap writers? Surely if they're not being employed in the evil industry they must be out there doing their own thing on the worldwide web?

[Larry2times]

If Mindbender was interested in solutions hed of sacrificed himself to Xenu years ago

[Mindbender Futurama]

^^ that's funny to me

in other news:

ackbar, there's LOTS of black journalists, graphic designers, musicians, videographers and artists that i know that aren't as employed as the white people i know. i'm not saying i also don't know white people who are poor and unjustly underemployed... but I AGREE WITH THE ORIGINAL POINT OF THIS THREAD: WHICH IS HIPSTERS WRITING ABOUT HIP HOP WHEN BLACK JOURNALISTS NO LONGER ARE. And the fact that some of the people writing about hip hop REALLY have not much actual fucking interactive experience with the grimy realities that they hear about on record.

I won't make a fucking trap record. I'm not about that life. And I will NEVER PRETEND TO BE. A hipster douchebag will.
FUCK YOUR LAMENESS AT PARTIES AND FUCK YOUR WRITING ON THE INTERNET, HIPSTER SLIME.

if you guys want to pretend white favortism/nepotism and disproportionate black employment (inside and outside the entertainment industry) in the job market doesn't exist... you can carry on this thread without me.

[ackbar]

it was a really just a question. who are the black writers doing it well that you think aren't getting a fair shake?

[Mindbender Futurama]

it's been so long since the great black journalist exodus... i don't even care anymore

fuck, i barely care about hip hop culture.

i do porn and make love almost every day.

i have all the answers i need. i'm just discussing some things i've observed. i know i see LOTS of white people getting paid for writing about hip hop and i don't see a lot of black people getting paid to write about hip hop.

and these are NOT the white people who founded all the golden era magazines you are talking about. NONE of them have blogs.

Oh, for the record: I, Addi Stewart, am one Black writer doing it well who isn't getting a fair shake... but whatever. There's lots more. Especially Black women. But journalism has to do with mass media and mass media has to do with mind control and mind control has to do with white supremacy. So that's why there's not a lot of dominant Black ANYTHING in publishing.

No Black distribution networks of marketable capitalist product, no Black ownership of any national media institutions, no Black multinational corporations. Black people barely own their own modern minds, much less their history, and MUCH LESS, anything of genuine historical value.

Ackbar, you're Canadian. You remember the magazine 'Sway'? The "Black-owned" magazine distributed by the Toronto Star? It lasted about what, 3 years before it got the plug pulled? Just like WORD Magazine. That shit lasted a good decade before it got shut down. Just like all the other Black-owned media in Canada. I've seen probably a DOZEN of them come and go. I've written for a few. I still talk to the editors of some of them.

sorry, I digress.
I haven't cared about journalism in years, really. Too many smarmy stupid motherfuckers on the internet that ruin the vast potential to evolve and educate each other communally and creatively. Too many hate-filled trolls and fake fucks to make me want to keep writing articles often. I barely want to rap these days, much less write. So I could list a couple Black writers I haven't seen do anything in years, but they might be doing shit that I don't know about.

[step one]

Your writing is average at best though, be honest.

[EMCEE DARTH MALEK]

pros aren't just about prose. you need knowledge and background to write on a subject. you wanna hear a hip hop fan's perspective, or you wanna hear someone who doesn't even like hip hop struggle to come up with something pertinent to say?

[Mindbender Futurama]

pros aren't just about prose. you need knowledge and background to write on a subject. you wanna hear a hip hop fan's perspective, or you wanna hear someone who doesn't even like hip hop struggle to come up with something pertinent to say?

this.

I'm a fucking HARDCORE HEAD. I've seen the Roots 19 times. With MOST artists, especially artists with legacy and meaning and history: the concert review/interview shouldn't be done by the cute white girl with the surface level questions and trite fucking obvious talking points. You want someone who's fucking like Nardwuar.

Step One, you can't say my shit is average at best, and not back your claim up.

I wrote a review of Drake's OVOFest from last August that is still being retweeted, to this day. I ostensibly don't give a fuck what you think, because I don't think you are objectively pseudo-neutral enough to give due props to my "best" piece of writing, whatever you thought it was.

[Hayzoos]

ackbar asks Mindbender which black hip hop journalists aren't getting a fair shake and instead of answering the question he tells him that he does porn and has sex every day. So ridiculous.

[hustler]

You thought you could post your racist filth in m2c and I wouldnt see it? You thought wrong, bitch.


#MODS #MINDBENDERHATESWHITES #DESPICABLERACIST

[ackbar]

from what i've read, your writing can be engaging at times but it's a also fairly myopic in scope
probably b/c you're an artist yourself & you have the natural ego that goes along with that.. but you interject yourself into lots of your writing. additionally, you frequently use toronto as a focal point. it's ok to have niche appeal but i don't know if you realize those things are really not that compelling to ppl outside of toronto. no malice just my opinion

[ackbar]

employee's writing is the worst tho. it's borderline difficult to read

[battlecatmeowstab212]

pros aren't just about prose. you need knowledge and background to write on a subject. you wanna hear a hip hop fan's perspective, or you wanna hear someone who doesn't even like hip hop struggle to come up with something pertinent to say?

this.

I'm a fucking HARDCORE HEAD. I've seen the Roots 19 times. With MOST artists, especially artists with legacy and meaning and history: the concert review/interview shouldn't be done by the cute white girl with the surface level questions and trite fucking obvious talking points. You want someone who's fucking like Nardwuar.

Step One, you can't say my shit is average at best, and not back your claim up.

I wrote a review of Drake's OVOFest from last August that is still being retweeted, to this day. I ostensibly don't give a fuck what you think, because I don't think you are objectively pseudo-neutral enough to give due props to my "best" piece of writing, whatever you thought it was.

Am I misreading this, or are you dissing Nardwuar?

[zombie]

Yeah I wasn't sure What he was saying either.