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^^^album stream.

Disc 1:
Ramona Park Legend, Pt. 1 [produced by No I.D.] [0:36]
Lift Me Up [produced by No I.D. and DJ Dahi][4:31]
Norf Norf [produced by Clams Casino] [3:03]
Birds and Bees (ft. Daley) [produced by DJ Dahi] [2:41]
Loca [produced by No I.D.] [2:41]
Lemme Know (ft. Jhene Aiko, and DJ Dahi)[produced by DJ Dahi, No I.D., and Brian Kidd][3:41]
Dopeman (ft. Joey Fatts, and Kilo Kish) [produced by No I.D.] [1:53]
Jump off the Roof (ft. Snoh Aalegra)[produced by No I.D.] [3:44]
Señorita[produced by Christian Rich][3:07]
Summertime [produced by Clams Casino][4:19]
Disc 2:
Ramona Park Legend, Pt. 2 [produced by No I.D.] [1:27]
3230 [produced by No I.D.] [2:52]
Surf (ft. Kilo Kish) [produced by Clams Casino] [2:31]
Might Be Wrong (ft. Haneef Talib aka GeNNo) [produced by No I.D.] [3:59]
Get Paid (ft. Desi Mo) [produced by No I.D.] [3:12]
Street Punks [produced by No I.D.] [3:06]
Hang N' Bang (ft. A$ton Matthews)[produced by No I.D.] [2:06]
C.N.B. [produced by No I.D., DJ Dahi, Kevin Randolph, and Brian Kidd] [4:13]
Like It Is [produced by No I.D., DJ Dahi, and Brian Kidd] [4:36]
'06 [produced by No I.D.] [0:47]


not even an hour, short for a double album that isn't a "double EP".

when did that "double EP" become a thing? did Necro invent that?

i first thought, "Wow! a debut album that's a double LP? that hasn't done before."
turns out Kurupt already did it.

I can't believe this has already leaked. I've been waiting for it for so long - I actually had it marked out on my calendar. So it's not even an hour long? Honestly, I'm glad to hear that because 1 hr+ projects get too tiresome.

woah ... the beats and lyrics on this thing are bananas. vince is really underrated. holy shit.

Only peeped the first half but it's sounding pretty fucking awesome so far.

Fantastic debut, for this day in age. Cohesive, realized, no filler.

But that "double album" tag is just an expression, right? Has anyone seen the physical media?

stems wrote:Fantastic debut, for this day in age. Cohesive, realized, no filler.

But that "double album" tag is just an expression, right? Has anyone seen the physical media?

Album is not supposed to be out yet - it leaked. So to answer your question - NO.

http://www.amazon.com/Summertime-06-2-C ... B00XZZLS2G" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Amazon saying 2CD but who knows

advantages of a double album:

-i think more royalty payouts, since when an album is made, the label only plays for 10 tracks even if your album has 15 on it.


i still don't understand how that works. hell, master p had lots of single disc albums with 20+ tracks on them, so does he never see any of the money from some of the songs? say if someone put an obscure album cut off ghetto d in a movie and it wasnt one of the 10 tracks the label paid for, does master p get royalties for that usage? i mean, surely a dmca claim will take the same song off youtube. or even mannie fresh's "mind of mannie fresh" album that had 31 tracks, and if you take out the skits, it is still over 15 actual songs.



-album sales are listed as two album sales.

that gives an inflated soundscan number, even though youre still only buying one physical jewel case with music in it.
you can't run up in best buy and bargain only the second cd into a upc scan. so i pretty much consider those sales numbers fraudulent.


also on the business side of this, how the hell did vince go from being an odd future guest feature to being on def jam without any major press? the first time people found out was in the doris liner notes. and nowadays i see "blacksmith" advertised as part of his label deal? you're telling me talib kweli is making money off this kid, too?

master p owned no limit records bro. he had a distribution deal
the 10 songs thing refers to the points or percentage a lot of major label artists get paid for sales royalties with a typical deal. it's not the same as publishing or licensing

this shit is pretty fucking awesome. kid is underrated. Hopefully this rectifies that.

He's been a favorite of mine since I first heard Shyne Coldchain. His no frills approach to songwriting is refreshing.

sleazy_j wrote:also on the business side of this, how the hell did vince go from being an odd future guest feature to being on def jam without any major press? the first time people found out was in the doris liner notes. and nowadays i see "blacksmith" advertised as part of his label deal? you're telling me talib kweli is making money off this kid, too?

he has released a lot of mixtapes. sure, he wasn't hyped to stratospheric heights like the rest of the OF crew but aside from the OF superstars (Tyler, Earl, Frank) I'd say he's doing much better than the rest career wise.

Pretty decent release. When I first read that it was going to be a double-disc I thought that Vince might have overextended himself but since the total album length is just short of an hour, it works well.

sleazy_j wrote: also on the business side of this, how the hell did vince go from being an odd future guest feature to being on def jam without any major press? the first time people found out was in the doris liner notes. and nowadays i see "blacksmith" advertised as part of his label deal? you're telling me talib kweli is making money off this kid, too?

blacksmith was named in those liner notes too... maybe he got picked up at the time when labels were trying to snatch up anybody who was young and getting a good response on the internet... seems like they took time with him though and actually did what a&r is supposed to do, instead of just rushing to capitalize on whatever sliver of internet buzz caught their attention at first

hell cant wait ep was better to me

Blacksmith is Kweli's former partner whom Kweli is now beefing with (along with most people online lol, clown) but I think that dude manages Vince.

That lift me up joint is fucking incredible.

hellriser wrote:hell cant wait ep was better to me

LOL ... this guy. Somebody get this troll outta here. saying hell cant wait was better is tantamount to claiming that less than half of summertime is of a lower quality. You can't identify at least 8 songs on the album that are decent?

sometimes i can't believe the stuff i read heere.

ChaMerZ wrote:

hellriser wrote:hell cant wait ep was better to me

LOL ... this guy. Somebody get this troll outta here. saying hell cant wait was better is tantamount to claiming that Liquid Swords had shitty beats.

You can't identify at least 8 songs on the album that are decent?

8 decent songs beats a great ep? Haven't heard the new album, but that was a terribly dumb argument on your side.

Cleanhobo wrote:

ChaMerZ wrote:

hellriser wrote:hell cant wait ep was better to me

LOL ... this guy. Somebody get this troll outta here. saying hell cant wait was better is tantamount to claiming that Liquid Swords had shitty beats.

You can't identify at least 8 songs on the album that are decent?

8 decent songs beats a great ep? Haven't heard the new album, but that was a terribly dumb argument on your side.

EP contained 7 songs. If you can identify at least 8 songs on the album that you like, then the album is automatically better than Hell Can Wait.

Still bumping this like crazy. FWIW first half of album > second half

Just noticed that sneaky little edit you made to my post. It's only on that Liquid Swords can be brought up in a Vince Staples thread. Let it go bro.

ChaMerZ wrote:

Cleanhobo wrote:

ChaMerZ wrote:

hellriser wrote:hell cant wait ep was better to me

LOL ... this guy. Somebody get this troll outta here. saying hell cant wait was better is tantamount to claiming that Liquid Swords had shitty beats.

You can't identify at least 8 songs on the album that are decent?

8 decent songs beats a great ep? Haven't heard the new album, but that was a terribly dumb argument on your side.

EP contained 7 songs. If you can identify at least 8 songs on the album that you like, then the album is automatically better than Hell Can Wait.

Still bumping this like crazy. FWIW first half of album > second half

You and Wicked would probably get along swimmingly

Worst Poster of the Year is locked up early.

This is decent. Don't get the hype.

I don't see the appeal to this. Seems boring to me. Am I missing something?

Race Car Bed Sleeping Rapist Virgin wrote:I don't see the appeal to this. Seems boring to me. Am I missing something?

the feels the same way about 99% of your posts

step one wrote:

Race Car Bed Sleeping Rapist Virgin wrote:I don't see the appeal to this. Seems boring to me. Am I missing something?

the feels the same way about 99% of your posts

im digging this album so far, it doesnt seem boring at all IMO, but its not in your face either.

step one wrote:

Race Car Bed Sleeping Rapist Virgin wrote:I don't see the appeal to this. Seems boring to me. Am I missing something?

the feels the same way about 99% of your posts

I'm completely avoiding this album based solely on Chamerz posts in this thread.

KhillA wrote:I'm completely avoiding this album based solely on Chamerz posts in this thread.

that is unfortunate to hear. your loss though. i can't imagine how anybody can dislike this track.

blastmaster wrote:This is decent. Don't get the hype.

I've seen a few people who were driven to it by the hype be disappointed and rank it about 6.5ish initially, but it grew on them with replay. That makes sense imo, it does really have much that grabs you with immediacy unless you're already a fan of Vince to begin with. In that regard hellriser has a point re: Hell Can Wait, that was an ep where several songs were more obvious bangers that could've been strong leading singles from a full length album. The new album is more of a quiet storm thing, there's not much like Blue Suede or Hands Up on here. If you accept that it's more of a simmer than a boil then it lands nicely.

And the hype is overbearing as usual, it's not a perfect album and could use a few trims too. But I like a good 90% of it, which is very strong ratio in this day and age.

Yea Blue Suede is the only thing that's ever grabbed me.