is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:52 am
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Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:56 am
yes
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:15 am
jay zed has 3 classics imoz
Rznable doubt
BP
L'album noir
Rznable doubt
BP
L'album noir
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:05 am
Not my favorite, but yea it's a classic. Huge impact and influence.
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:18 am
yes
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:01 am
Didn't age well to me but there are some classic songs on there.
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:42 am
absolutely.
reasonable doubt, vol. 3, blueprint, and black album are all classics to me.
reasonable doubt, vol. 3, blueprint, and black album are all classics to me.
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:17 pm
Jedisdope wrote:absolutely.
reasonable doubt, vol. 3, blueprint, and black album are all classics to me.
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:36 pm
Really great production, huge influence, but not a classic for me. Rapping wise I think it was a noticeable step down for Jay-Z.
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:37 pm
Black album is trash btw. Really overrated.
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:40 pm
Not picking on Jedi but I was always curious as to why people (and there is a bunch) consider Vol. 3 classic. The bolds are IMO the only decent tracks. Anyone else concur or disagree?
No. Title Producer(s) Length
1. "Hova Song (Intro)" K-Rob 2:21
2. "So Ghetto" DJ Premier 4:01
3. "Do It Again (Put Ya Hands Up)" (featuring Beanie Sigel & Amil) Rockwilder 4:39
4. "Dope Man" (featuring Serena Altschul) DJ Clue?, Darrell Branch, Ken Ifill, Lance Rivera* 4:03
5. "Things That U Do" (featuring Mariah Carey) Swizz Beatz 4:52
6. "It's Hot (Some Like It Hot)" Timbaland 4:16
7. "Snoopy Track" (featuring Juvenile) Timbaland 4:01
8. "S. Carter" (featuring Amil) Russell Howard, Sean Francis, Chauncey Mahan* 4:14
9. "Pop 4 Roc" (featuring Beanie Sigel, Memphis Bleek & Amil) DJ Clue?, Ken Ifill 4:36
10. "Watch Me" (featuring Dr. Dre) Irv Gotti & Lil Rob 4:34
11. "Big Pimpin'" (featuring UGK) Timbaland 4:44
12. "There's Been a Murder" K-Rob 3:40
13. "Come and Get Me" Timbaland 6:09
14. "NYMP" Rockwilder 4:03
15. "Hova Song (Outro)" K-Rob 1:26
16. "Jigga My Nigga" (hidden track) Swizz Beatz 4:34
17. "Girl's Best Friend" (hidden track)
No. Title Producer(s) Length
1. "Hova Song (Intro)" K-Rob 2:21
2. "So Ghetto" DJ Premier 4:01
3. "Do It Again (Put Ya Hands Up)" (featuring Beanie Sigel & Amil) Rockwilder 4:39
4. "Dope Man" (featuring Serena Altschul) DJ Clue?, Darrell Branch, Ken Ifill, Lance Rivera* 4:03
5. "Things That U Do" (featuring Mariah Carey) Swizz Beatz 4:52
6. "It's Hot (Some Like It Hot)" Timbaland 4:16
7. "Snoopy Track" (featuring Juvenile) Timbaland 4:01
8. "S. Carter" (featuring Amil) Russell Howard, Sean Francis, Chauncey Mahan* 4:14
9. "Pop 4 Roc" (featuring Beanie Sigel, Memphis Bleek & Amil) DJ Clue?, Ken Ifill 4:36
10. "Watch Me" (featuring Dr. Dre) Irv Gotti & Lil Rob 4:34
11. "Big Pimpin'" (featuring UGK) Timbaland 4:44
12. "There's Been a Murder" K-Rob 3:40
13. "Come and Get Me" Timbaland 6:09
14. "NYMP" Rockwilder 4:03
15. "Hova Song (Outro)" K-Rob 1:26
16. "Jigga My Nigga" (hidden track) Swizz Beatz 4:34
17. "Girl's Best Friend" (hidden track)
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:43 pm
Personal rank
1. Reasonable Doubt
2. The Blueprint
3. In My Lifetime, Vol. 1
4. The Black Album
5. American Gangsta???
1. Reasonable Doubt
2. The Blueprint
3. In My Lifetime, Vol. 1
4. The Black Album
5. American Gangsta???
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:04 pm
Just because the source rated it a classic dont mean it is a classic.
I think its an aight effort. If you can consciously group an album like Illmatic, Enter The Wu-Tang or Low End Theory in that classic category than its blasphemous to throw the Blueprint in there. Just my humble op.
I think its an aight effort. If you can consciously group an album like Illmatic, Enter The Wu-Tang or Low End Theory in that classic category than its blasphemous to throw the Blueprint in there. Just my humble op.
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:24 pm
Yes, going to listen to that tonight now that you mention it.
1. Reasonable Doubt
2. The Blueprint
3. The Black Album
4. In My Lifetime, Vol. 1
5. American Gangster
I consider Vol.1 overrated. Vol.2 is nearly as good IMO. 5th place is like a three-way tie between AG, V2 and S. Carter Mixtape.
For me it's:Philaflava wrote:Personal rank
1. Reasonable Doubt
2. The Blueprint
3. In My Lifetime, Vol. 1
4. The Black Album
5. American Gangsta???
1. Reasonable Doubt
2. The Blueprint
3. The Black Album
4. In My Lifetime, Vol. 1
5. American Gangster
I consider Vol.1 overrated. Vol.2 is nearly as good IMO. 5th place is like a three-way tie between AG, V2 and S. Carter Mixtape.
Right, but the overall impact it had on music pretty much does solidify it as a classic. Regardless of how you feel about Kanye, Jus Blaze and the whole chipmunk soul sound, it laid out the blueprint for hip-hop music for years to come. RZA did that production better earlier, KRS-One already did an album called Blueprint, and they both have classics too, but that doesn't change the fact that this album is also a classic.JaH BLaZe wrote:Just because the source rated it a classic dont mean it is a classic.
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:52 pm
bp2 is better
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:07 pm
Yes. Reasonable Doubt too - but thats it, IMO.
1) RD
2) BP
3) V 1
4) Black Album
5) V 3
6) BP 2
7) Dynasty
1) RD
2) BP
3) V 1
4) Black Album
5) V 3
6) BP 2
7) Dynasty
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:11 pm
People actually liked American Gangster?
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:11 pm
You dont like Dopeman and Snoopy Track? Those are my two favorites on the entire album.Philaflava wrote:Not picking on Jedi but I was always curious as to why people (and there is a bunch) consider Vol. 3 classic. The bolds are IMO the only decent tracks. Anyone else concur or disagree?
No. Title Producer(s) Length
1. "Hova Song (Intro)" K-Rob 2:21
2. "So Ghetto" DJ Premier 4:01
3. "Do It Again (Put Ya Hands Up)" (featuring Beanie Sigel & Amil) Rockwilder 4:39
4. "Dope Man" (featuring Serena Altschul) DJ Clue?, Darrell Branch, Ken Ifill, Lance Rivera* 4:03
5. "Things That U Do" (featuring Mariah Carey) Swizz Beatz 4:52
6. "It's Hot (Some Like It Hot)" Timbaland 4:16
7. "Snoopy Track" (featuring Juvenile) Timbaland 4:01
8. "S. Carter" (featuring Amil) Russell Howard, Sean Francis, Chauncey Mahan* 4:14
9. "Pop 4 Roc" (featuring Beanie Sigel, Memphis Bleek & Amil) DJ Clue?, Ken Ifill 4:36
10. "Watch Me" (featuring Dr. Dre) Irv Gotti & Lil Rob 4:34
11. "Big Pimpin'" (featuring UGK) Timbaland 4:44
12. "There's Been a Murder" K-Rob 3:40
13. "Come and Get Me" Timbaland 6:09
14. "NYMP" Rockwilder 4:03
15. "Hova Song (Outro)" K-Rob 1:26
16. "Jigga My Nigga" (hidden track) Swizz Beatz 4:34
17. "Girl's Best Friend" (hidden track)
I also think Things That U Do is great for what it is.
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:30 pm
Same, big fan of "Dope Man", "Snoopy Track", and "S. Carter".
Surprised to see the love for Vol. 1. Some strong tracks but was always too poppy and jiggy for me.
I like these songs:
1. "Intro: A Million & One Questions / Rhyme No More" DJ Premier 3:21
2. "The City Is Mine" (featuring Blackstreet) Teddy Riley, Chad Hugo 4:02
3. "I Know What Girls Like" (featuring Lil' Kim & Puff Daddy) Sean "Puffy" Combs, Ron "Amen-Ra" Lawrence for The Hitmen 4:50
4. "Imaginary Player" Daven "Prestige" Vanderpool for The Hitmen 3:57
5. "Streets Is Watching" Ski 3:58
6. "Friend or Foe '98" DJ Premier 2:09
7. "Lucky Me" Steven "Stevie J" Jordan for The Hitmen, Buckwild for D.I.T.C. 5:00
8. "(Always Be My) Sunshine" (featuring Foxy Brown & Babyface) Daven "Prestige" Vanderpool for The Hitmen 4:43
9. "Who You Wit II" Ski 4:29
10. "Face Off" (featuring Sauce Money) Poke and Tone for Trackmasters 3:31
11. "Real Niggaz" (featuring Too $hort) Anthony Dent 5:07
12. "Rap Game / Crack Game" Big Jaz 2:40
13. "Where I'm From" Deric "D-Dot" Angelettie, Ron "Amen-Ra" Lawrence for The Hitmen 4:26
14. "You Must Love Me" (featuring Kelly Price) Nashiem Myrick for The Hitmen 5:47
Surprised to see the love for Vol. 1. Some strong tracks but was always too poppy and jiggy for me.
I like these songs:
1. "Intro: A Million & One Questions / Rhyme No More" DJ Premier 3:21
2. "The City Is Mine" (featuring Blackstreet) Teddy Riley, Chad Hugo 4:02
3. "I Know What Girls Like" (featuring Lil' Kim & Puff Daddy) Sean "Puffy" Combs, Ron "Amen-Ra" Lawrence for The Hitmen 4:50
4. "Imaginary Player" Daven "Prestige" Vanderpool for The Hitmen 3:57
5. "Streets Is Watching" Ski 3:58
6. "Friend or Foe '98" DJ Premier 2:09
7. "Lucky Me" Steven "Stevie J" Jordan for The Hitmen, Buckwild for D.I.T.C. 5:00
8. "(Always Be My) Sunshine" (featuring Foxy Brown & Babyface) Daven "Prestige" Vanderpool for The Hitmen 4:43
9. "Who You Wit II" Ski 4:29
10. "Face Off" (featuring Sauce Money) Poke and Tone for Trackmasters 3:31
11. "Real Niggaz" (featuring Too $hort) Anthony Dent 5:07
12. "Rap Game / Crack Game" Big Jaz 2:40
13. "Where I'm From" Deric "D-Dot" Angelettie, Ron "Amen-Ra" Lawrence for The Hitmen 4:26
14. "You Must Love Me" (featuring Kelly Price) Nashiem Myrick for The Hitmen 5:47
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:34 pm
Nah Right rank BP tracks
Never Change is one of the weaker tracks on the album IMO but I get it. You don't sound cool unless you list a deep cut.
http://nahright.com/news/2014/09/11/the ... nt-ranked/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;1. “Never Change”
2. “U Don’t Know”
3. “Song Cry”
4. “Heart of the City (Ain’t No Love)”
5. “Renegade”
6. “Takeover”
7. “Blueprint (Momma Loves Me)”
8. “Lyrical Excercise”
9. “The Ruler’s Back”
10. “Girls, Girls, Girls Pt. 2″
11. “Girls, Girls, Girls”
12. “Izzo (H.O.V.A.)”
13. “All I Need”
14. “Jigga That Nigga”
15. “Hola’ Hovito”
Never Change is one of the weaker tracks on the album IMO but I get it. You don't sound cool unless you list a deep cut.
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:40 pm
I thought everyone liked Who U Wit and Lucky Me. Some of the singles and poppy songs were wack to me as a kid but I like them today.Jedisdope wrote:Same, big fan of "Dope Man", "Snoopy Track", and "S. Carter".
Surprised to see the love for Vol. 1. Some strong tracks but was always too poppy and jiggy for me.
I like these songs:
1. "Intro: A Million & One Questions / Rhyme No More" DJ Premier 3:21
2. "The City Is Mine" (featuring Blackstreet) Teddy Riley, Chad Hugo 4:02
3. "I Know What Girls Like" (featuring Lil' Kim & Puff Daddy) Sean "Puffy" Combs, Ron "Amen-Ra" Lawrence for The Hitmen 4:50
4. "Imaginary Player" Daven "Prestige" Vanderpool for The Hitmen 3:57
5. "Streets Is Watching" Ski 3:58
6. "Friend or Foe '98" DJ Premier 2:09
7. "Lucky Me" Steven "Stevie J" Jordan for The Hitmen, Buckwild for D.I.T.C. 5:00
8. "(Always Be My) Sunshine" (featuring Foxy Brown & Babyface) Daven "Prestige" Vanderpool for The Hitmen 4:43
9. "Who You Wit II" Ski 4:29
10. "Face Off" (featuring Sauce Money) Poke and Tone for Trackmasters 3:31
11. "Real Niggaz" (featuring Too $hort) Anthony Dent 5:07
12. "Rap Game / Crack Game" Big Jaz 2:40
13. "Where I'm From" Deric "D-Dot" Angelettie, Ron "Amen-Ra" Lawrence for The Hitmen 4:26
14. "You Must Love Me" (featuring Kelly Price) Nashiem Myrick for The Hitmen 5:47
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:47 pm
[/quote]Comedy Quaddafi wrote:
I thought everyone liked Who U Wit and Lucky Me. Some of the singles and poppy songs were wack to me as a kid but I like them today.
Song is great but the hook ruins it for me.
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:29 pm
Correct.CarlosDelgothoes wrote:jay zed has 3 classics imoz
Rznable doubt
BP
L'album noir
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:33 pm
Much better than ppl give it credit for. Puffy brought the hits.Race Car Bed Sleeping Rapist Virgin wrote:People actually liked American Gangster?
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:59 pm
Interesting. Might have to give it a re-listenPhilaflava wrote:Much better than ppl give it credit for. Puffy brought the hits.Race Car Bed Sleeping Rapist Virgin wrote:People actually liked American Gangster?
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:36 pm
American Gangster is dull as fuck. Every Jay album since Black Album has been terrible.
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:18 pm
one of the best albums of all time
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:51 pm
no. It's not even one of his top 3 albums
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:55 pm
People forget how good the Dynasty album is too.
Re: is Jay-Z - The Blueprint, a classic?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:56 pm
co-signed.Jedisdope wrote:absolutely.
reasonable doubt, vol. 3, blueprint, and black album are all classics to me.