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Philaflava wrote:
Blockhead wrote::larry: at "Inner city Griots" being better than "To whom it may concern".

IDK about that. Yeah 5 O'Clock Follies was dope but this was was more polished in both B&R.
it was definitely more polished but I think that worked against them.
It was full of terrible smooth jazz grooves and had tons of filler tracks. i love some joints on it but can you really listen to "inner city bounderies" nowadays without feeling corny? i don't think anything on that album comes close to five o'clock follies, My fantasy and seventh seal. Those three songs literally changed the game for rapping. At least to me.

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Life After Death for sure. :gyeah:

Get Rich Or Die Tryin' if it qualifies.

Actually, that's arguable.

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Was hoping Id get some fellow 2000 advocates out the woodwork :(

Stet In Full Gear
Kokane Funk Upon A Rhyme
wanna say Above The Law but again its their 3rd album that you could make a case for not the 2nd
Efil4zaggin maybe
Life Is Too Short. hard w him, whos to say what his first album is
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Its harder to do w newer rappers cos their catalogues are so fractured/messy, like how arbitrary you want to get when someones got a dozen tapes and a shelved major label debut

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Beatnuts - Stone Crazy
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Infamous duh

Are people debating what earls second album is? If that is the case let the record state Doris is the first earl 'album'
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Larry2times wrote:Beatnuts - Stone Crazy
:gyeah:

That's their 3rd album and it's not even close to Street Level.

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Nah Intoxicated Demons was an ep. kinda meaningless distinction considering its length I know but it does say EP on it

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Brougham33 wrote: Image
That's his debut

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Blockhead wrote:
Philaflava wrote:
Blockhead wrote::larry: at "Inner city Griots" being better than "To whom it may concern".

IDK about that. Yeah 5 O'Clock Follies was dope but this was was more polished in both B&R.
it was definitely more polished but I think that worked against them.
It was full of terrible smooth jazz grooves and had tons of filler tracks. i love some joints on it but can you really listen to "inner city bounderies" nowadays without feeling corny? i don't think anything on that album comes close to five o'clock follies, My fantasy and seventh seal. Those three songs literally changed the game for rapping. At least to me.
they are pretty closely ranked, IMO. the 1st album was more important/historically significant and the 2nd had more polished sound. both are certainly flawed. it's not a clear case of 2nd > 1st album, but i could see why someone would have that preference and make that argument.

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if Gloss is calling "Liquid Swords" a sophomore release, that is Earl's third album.

Wait, you don't think Liquid Swords is officially his 2nd album?

his first was just Genius and not wu related or sounding

liquid swords he is the GZA and style and sound to go with wustyle

Beneath The Surface is Gza's second album

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So when you sound different on an album, your catalog automatically resets?

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Neuro wrote:
his first was just Genius and not wu related or sounding

liquid swords he is the GZA and style and sound to go with wustyle

Beneath The Surface is Gza's second album
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Mentioning Liquid Swords is the bat signal for retards.

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do people consider eminems slim shady lp his second album?

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They should.

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Neuro wrote:
Philaflava wrote:
sleazy_j wrote:
Employee wrote:Image
if Gloss is calling "Liquid Swords" a sophomore release, that is Earl's third album.

Wait, you don't think Liquid Swords is officially his 2nd album?

his first was just Genius and not wu related or sounding

liquid swords he is the GZA and style and sound to go with wustyle

Beneath The Surface is Gza's second album

is hell on earth mobb deeps second album?

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Blockhead wrote:Here's a hot take: i think "Let the rhythm him'em" is the best Eric b and rakim album.
Word. I especially like all the uncredited Extra P songs
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KhillA wrote:Mentioning Liquid Swords is the bat signal for retards.
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so you guys dont understand that Genius' first album is not Gza? and he was rapping as and in a completely different style /persona? liquid swords was his reset button of sorts of finding his rap idenity

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Neuro wrote:so you guys dont understand that Genius' first album is not Gza? and he was rapping as and in a completely different style /persona? liquid swords was his reset button of sorts of finding his rap idenity

but he's the same person and it was a solo album...soooooo, it's his first album. Doesn't matter if he changed drastically after that. Is Zev love X not MF doom?

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Kool Keith has so many first albums.

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Tribe's debut >>> sophomore.

Same for Del. NNFA's production sounds like shit.

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Thun wrote:Tribe's debut >>> sophomore.

Same for Del. NNFA's production sounds like shit.
i def agree about del. i always felt NNFA was way overrated and i liked his debut a lot.

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Thun wrote:Tribe's debut >>> sophomore.

Same for Del. NNFA's production sounds like shit.

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Blockhead wrote:
Neuro wrote:so you guys dont understand that Genius' first album is not Gza? and he was rapping as and in a completely different style /persona? liquid swords was his reset button of sorts of finding his rap idenity

but he's the same person and it was a solo album...soooooo, it's his first album. Doesn't matter if he changed drastically after that. Is Zev love X not MF doom?
Thank you. I just don't get how this isn't a simple thing to grasp.

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