sophomore albums better than debut

[Philaflava]

add on.

[Employee]

[Blockhead]

Jungle brothers-DOne by the forces of nature
Fugees
KMD-Black bastards

Disagree about Del and Tupac though.

[Jedisdope]

de la could go either way. first 3 are kind of up for grabs.

i'll add supreme clientele.

[Employee]

Disagree about Del

Oh: Fuck nah, bruv.

No Need For Alarm is arguably an flawless West Coast classic.

[Blockhead]

Disagree about Del

Oh: Fuck nah, bruv.

No Need For Alarm is arguably an flawless West Coast classic.

I loved it when it dropped but it didn't age well, imo. Where as IWMBGWH has somehow gotten better.
early 90's me would agree with you but I can't listen to that "style" of rapping in 2016.

[step one]

Ice T 'Power'
Public Enemy 'Nation Of Millions...'
EPMD 'Unfinished Business'

[Philaflava]

Disagree about Del

Oh: Fuck nah, bruv.

No Need For Alarm is arguably an flawless West Coast classic.

I loved it when it dropped but it didn't age well, imo. Where as IWMBGWH has somehow gotten better.
early 90's me would agree with you but I can't listen to that "style" of rapping in 2016.

Neither probably aged well but NNFA is my shit.

[Employee]

One of the reasons NNFA is so striking, even then as it is now, is it lacks skits. It was one of the first records I remember listening to without a single skit or bit of wasted space.

[Brougham33]

[hessbz12]

Lox- We are the Streets

[Blockhead]

Disagree about Del

Oh: Fuck nah, bruv.

No Need For Alarm is arguably an flawless West Coast classic.

I loved it when it dropped but it didn't age well, imo. Where as IWMBGWH has somehow gotten better.
early 90's me would agree with you but I can't listen to that "style" of rapping in 2016.

Neither probably aged well but NNFA is my shit.

I would argue that IWMBGWH has aged extremely well cause , aside from a few songs, his rapping style is more conventional which tends to age better in general. It's the reason I'd rather listen to The beatnuts than freestyle fellowship in 2016. Also, The production is pretty timeless funk shit.

[sleazy_j]

if Gloss is calling "Liquid Swords" a sophomore release, that is Earl's third album.

[Philaflava]

if Gloss is calling "Liquid Swords" a sophomore release, that is Earl's third album.

Wait, you don't think Liquid Swords is officially his 2nd album?

[sleazy_j]

you're lookin at it wrong. not about GZA album. Earl's self titled was his first album.

[TheBigSleep]

List compiled from when we did this five years ago:

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Aceyalone – A Book of Human Language
Tha Alkaholiks – Coast II Coast
Beanie Sigel – The Reason
The Beastie Boys – Paul's Boutique
The Beatnuts – Stone Crazy
Bone Thugs N Harmony – Creepin' On Ah Come Up
Da Bush Babees – Gravity
Cam'Ron – S.D.E.
Clipse – Hell Hath No Fury
Common – Resurrection
Cypress Hill – Black Sunday
Das-EFX – Straight Up Sewaside
De La Soul – De La Soul is Dead
Del Tha Funkee Homosapien – No Need For Alarm
Devin the Dude – Just Tryin' ta Live
Digable Planets – Blowout Comb
DJ Honda – H II
Dr. Dre – 2001
El-P – I'll Sleep When You're Dead
EPMD – Unfinished Business
Eminem – The Slim Shady LP
Eric B. & Rakim – Follow the Leader
Freestyle Fellowship – Innercity Griots
Ice Cube – Death Certificate
Ice-T – Power
The Fugees – The Score
Gang Starr – Step In the Arena
Ghostface Killah – Supreme Clientele
GZA – Liquid Swords
The Jacka – The Jack Artist
The Jungle Brothers – Done By the Forces of Nature
Keith Murray – Enigma
KMD – Black Bastards
Kool G. Rap & DJ Polo – Wanted: Dead or Alive
KRS-One – KRS-One
Leaders of the New School – T.I.M.E.
LL Cool J – Bigger and Deffer
Masta Ace – SlaughtaHouse
M.O.P. – Firing Squad
Mobb Deep – The Infamous
N.W.A. – Straight Outta Compton
Onyx – All We Got Iz Us
Organized Konfusion – Stress: The Extinction Agenda
OutKast – ATLiens
Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth – The Main Ingredient
Public Enemy – It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Redman – Dare Iz a Darkside
The Roots – Do You Want More?!!!??
Schoolly D – Smoke Some Kill
Tragedy Khadafi – Saga of a Hoodlum
A Tribe Called Quest – The Low End Theory
2Pac – Strictly For My Niggaz

And then people argued about Artifacts, Biggie, NaS, Pharcyde, Slick Rick, and Wu-Tang's debuts versus follow-ups and / or talked about shit.

[CarlosDelgothoes]

De La Soul – De La Soul is Dead
Dr. Dre – 2001
Eric B. & Rakim – Follow the Leader
Ghostface Killah – Supreme Clientele
N.W.A. – Straight Outta Compton (doesn't count)

nah

[TheBigSleep]

Not my choices. I like the debuts from De La, Dre, and Ra more though.

[Blockhead]

Here's a hot take: i think "Let the rhythm him'em" is the best Eric b and rakim album.

[blastmaster]

Flesh of My Flesh? Nah?

[CarlosDelgothoes]

Flesh of My Flesh? Nah?

i think "Let the rhythm him'em" is the best Eric b and rakim album.

[step one]

Listened to Let The Rhythm Hit Em recently. It's more even than Paid or Leader but doesn't have the high points those have, but it also doesn't have the filler. DSTT is more polished and has Juice on it ( at that whole sentence). Tough call really.

Also, technically HHNF is Clipse 3rd album.

[Larry2times]

Liquid swords is half a remake too

Maybe its from only listening to them in retrospect but yeh let the rythym hit ems the best one to me too.

life after death
UGK- super tight
its a big daddy thing
my fav epmd albums the 3rd one I can never remember which title is which
same w run dmc jeezy trick daddy krs outkast 8ball & mjg three six theres a few late bloomers
grand puba 2000
atliens

come home w me
wanted dead or alive

[Larry2times]

bubba deliverance
I like when theres someone who maintains a consistent 8/10 for yrs like lito or bg you can throw on an album at random and know what youre getting its cool

[step one]

Cam'ron definitely. Wouldn't say Puba's second was better though

[Philaflava]

[Blockhead]

at "Inner city Griots" being better than "To whom it may concern".

[Blockhead]

Cam'ron definitely. Wouldn't say Puba's second was better though

It's not even close. The debut shits all over the mediocre second album. "Lickshot">>>>>> all of his second album.

[Philaflava]

at "Inner city Griots" being better than "To whom it may concern".

IDK about that. Yeah 5 O'Clock Follies was dope but this was was more polished in both B&R.

[Philaflava]

Cam'ron definitely. Wouldn't say Puba's second was better though

It's not even close. The debut shits all over the mediocre second album. "Lickshot">>>>>> all of his second album.

Agreed Reel To Reel is significantly better. Save Play It Cool, 2000, I Like It and maybe Backstabbers, the rest was forgettable for me.