Re: Eminem signs WSG/Conway to Shady/Interscope Records
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:53 pm
I'm watching that shit right now, Benny's first verse in that freestyle >>>>>>>>>
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Agree on almost everything here. Add Daringer and Benny to that as well. Think you're selling Westside short a little bit though. Conways the better rapper, and I like him more overall, but I think Mr. T, Gustavo, and Hall are probably better than anything solo song Conway has put out to this point. Although, his verses on The Cow and Andre Drummond are on another level.unclebengi wrote:I can only base all of this on my own perspective. Conway and Westside are completely different as rappers, artists, whatever way you want to look at it. Westside was doing his thing for over a year solid and getting a decent buzz with a largely derivative rap style. I never heard Conway's name mentioned until fall of 2015. I largely ignored Westside to this point because despite a great ear for beats and nailing an aesthetic, he's average as fuck as a rapper.
As soon as I saw a couple Conway videos though from his Reject 2 album as well as his first Shade 45 freestyle I was hooked (as were a LOT of other heads). Conway is a technician with the bars and has been amazingly consistent with each and every verse over the last year and a half. The partnership with Westside works perfect because Westside is like a 2017 Puffy. He's made great marketing decisions from the start and capitalized on CONWAY's buzz (not his own) in way that I haven't seen before in that particular lane of gangster rap.
I don't care if I ever hear another Westside verse again, but he's been great for Conway and rap in general really just for giving guys like Conway and Mach-Hommy a true platform. He's a had a plan from the start and stuck to it and Conway has rapped his ass off from the second he got his chance.
My main point in all this is they don't deserve to be lumped in together as a group or with past New York groups like Mobb Deep. Westside Gunn is not a good rapper, Conway is an amazing one.
Didn't see this initially. 100% on this too.unclebengi wrote:Yeah, I don't think I've heard a bad beat yet, he's ALC jr. in my book
Versive wrote:Little known tape produced by him, with a totally different style of rapping: https://thricethird.bandcamp.com/album/ ... -the-queen" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Philaflava wrote:I don't know how anyone could choose WSG over Conway at this point. Conway is Prodigy and WSG is like Big Twins.
Dudes have rapping like this for 20 years. I'm still not getting the excitement around it - is it people that never really checked for thugged out NY street rap who are all over it? Can't see what he's bringing to the table that you can't find on a thousand other mixtapes from the last 2 decades.unclebengi wrote:These appearances are always impressive from Conway, but he really goes IN the last couple verses here, something to see for sure-
step one wrote:Dudes have rapping like this for 20 years. I'm still not getting the excitement around it - is it people that never really checked for thugged out NY street rap who are all over it? Can't see what he's bringing to the table that you can't find on a thousand other mixtapes from the last 2 decades.unclebengi wrote:These appearances are always impressive from Conway, but he really goes IN the last couple verses here, something to see for sure-
I mean, it's alright and everything but Eminem may aswell have signed Grafh, Cormega or Ali Vegas.
I understand what you're saying, but he's relevant right now to this era and the production he has at his disposal ranges from consistent at the very least to outstanding. The guy is talented and he's making good new music, what's there not to like?step one wrote:Dudes have rapping like this for 20 years. I'm still not getting the excitement around it - is it people that never really checked for thugged out NY street rap who are all over it? Can't see what he's bringing to the table that you can't find on a thousand other mixtapes from the last 2 decades.unclebengi wrote:These appearances are always impressive from Conway, but he really goes IN the last couple verses here, something to see for sure-
I mean, it's alright and everything but Eminem may aswell have signed Grafh, Cormega or Ali Vegas.
judging by the droog show i saw 3 years ago when he opened for royce, no kind of new generation is fucking w dude. it's old heads stuck in the 90s (same people who were stoked for "pryme").Sebastion Shaw wrote: New generation. I mean people who didn't grow up on Nas or Ghost now have Droog and Bronson.
These cats are actually rapping. It's new to a lot of people in this generation. Actually rapping. Not mumble, marble, garble mouths saying "yeah" or "uh" 30 times in a song.
so before that you thought he was pretending or something ?EMCEE DARTH MALEK wrote:
btw. i recently heard an interview and it turns out dude's face is really like that, he had a stroke or something.
It's probably harder to imitate Ozzy Osbourne than Marvin Gaye...I mean..what the fuck are you on about?EMCEE DARTH MALEK wrote: rappers these days are more technically able than 90s rappers imo. it's harder to do a young thug vocal performance than raekwon. .
step one wrote:so before that you thought he was pretending or something ?EMCEE DARTH MALEK wrote:
btw. i recently heard an interview and it turns out dude's face is really like that, he had a stroke or something.