Did Killer Mike just kill the RTJ cash cow?

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TBH, from the few interviews I've seen with him, I never really thought he was anywhere as smart or sharp as people made him out to be over the years.

Damage is def done and I agree at this point the double down would have shown balls and integrity.

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This probably came out around 3-4 years ago, so it's not surprising.

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Full retraction.

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It's a full 5 part thing on IG.

I don't think it's a retraction at all. I think he's unhappy that the interview got pushed at the same time as this march. And that's a fair assessment but he had to kjownit was a possibility. But maybe he didn't know how big the marches would be.

As an NRA member myself I don't see much of a problem with the whole thing. He was talking about black gun ownership. He was not talking about politics.

But. Leftists can't be reasoned with so he didn't have a choice.

Damage is done. He shared a table with a terrorist organization.

Looking forward to EL-Ps response.

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Oh, it's an absolute retraction and rebuke of the organization he voluntarily sat with for the segment. Given the current climate in the country it is impossible to believe that either he or whoever handles his media affairs would not have had a specific broadcast date. This was filmed an week ago, per Killer Mike, which was on the heels of the march. RTJ is far too savvy an operation to risk such a potentially spectacular backlash. Hence, the apologia.

He's got a living to make so it makes sense that he would issue a statement appeasing the vast contingent of SJW's who contribute to that. But the hypocrisy for a so-called "revolutionary" in the face of a backlash that is exclusively about peoples feelings is ridiculous.

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I care about the movement because I have A,- lost a friend to gun violence in my life, B,- had a coworker lose a niece at Sandy Hook (unimaginable pain to even think about a first grader being shot to death) and C- this country is fucked up beyond words at this point and the fact that mass shootings occur far too often should be enough reason for any human with a brain and heart to care.

However, and I say this knowing I just listened to a Raekwon song, I just find it hypocritical on all our parts to be Hip Hop fans, and artists (for everyone here who is an artist and for every artist out there) to talk about guns, murder, and drug dealing etc; and then be all the sudden talking about gun control. Gun control is not just about the 2nd amendment and who should be able to "buy a gun". I can get a gun in 15 mins with or without bodies if I have the money. Dead ass. It's a joke. I don't need to see Nas, Havoc, Nore, etc talking about gun control on IG when their music talks about guns, and shootings, and murder. You can't have it both ways. It's not only mass and school shootings that matter. The mass murder of young black men in this country is outrageous. And it's more often than not at the hands of other young black men. Call a spade a spade. It's a much bigger issue than Rap music, that is for damn sure, but maybe our guys need to think about the shit they spew on records that without a doubt influences the children, especially, but not limited to in the ghetto with regard to how they live their life. Music is a powerful thing that certainly has an effect on impressionable kids.

Same goes for the drug problem in America. These rappers make songs straight up encouraging the use of drugs and alcohol, especially nowadays with the pill and syrup problems, and yet turn around and say "I'm not a role model". Straight clown bullshit. You're in the public eye, you reach millions of 12-30 years olds. You are most certainly a role model just as an athlete or actor is, and there is no getting around the fact.

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I dig what you're saying but that's where parenting comes into play imo.

Kids playing violent games. Watching violent movies. Watching porn. Listening to gangster shit.

We're all influenced by the things we see and hear to some extent.

Based on my shit I should be REALLY fucked up. Fortunately I'm only semi fucked up.

But I dunno. Trying to change forms of media is not a solution to this shit.

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i like what el-p said so much more than i like what killer mike said.

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. A gun for a gun leaves the whole world scared.

America is still the land of the cowboy, and until the rich and powerful as well as the average citizen in that society see that civilization, justice and peace is not manifested and maintained by everyone owning guns, but by conflict resolution on a completely higher level of philosophy... like sooooo many other countries around the world that don't have nearly as much gun violence & death as America, but have a much bigger population: THERE WILL BE BLOOD.

In THEORY, it's cool for citizens to have guns to fight against the possibility of a tyrannical government. But if the government REALLY wants to kill you and you have some kind of stockpile of guns to fight them/start a coup/start a militia/kill a police department/etc. then the government will not just have a shootout with you... THEY WILL JUST FUCKING BOMB YOU. Wipe your ass goodbye with the 2nd Amendment if you think it will defend you against the Army, Navy, Air Force or Marines. Where's your AR-15 now, Killer Mike? Atlanta SWAT team showed up at your door. You REALLY think you got a chance?? N!GGA PLEASE: WOKE YOUR ASS UP :bunk:

And maybe if the entire country of America wasn't a STOLEN LAND ISSUE, then the concept of defending one's "private property" by any means necessary including shooting to kill wouldn't be such a complicated fucking reality for white people and the people they stole from Africa and stole land from.

Guns are out of control. The normalization of high school shootings is a psychological epidemic that is a level ten crucial crisis sign for a society out of control... but muhfuckas don't seem to care enough to try and solve that problem.

Children are marching to beg to not get shot dead in school in America. GAME OVER, MAN. There is not a single human mind nor a collective group of geniuses on earth that can solve this KILLER CHAOS.

Hmmm, I wonder what America will look like after it collapses... :killacam:
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We'll probably have to start bagging our milk.

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riveting stuff. RTJ make terrible music for the most part which is as good reason as any not to listen to them. The 2018 rap audience sucks so on so many levels though.
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I like EL's response. That was good shit. But it's different sitting down and writing out some shit after the fact vs sitting down for an interview with a dude who you're supposedly friends with.

RTJ has made some fantastic music. The last offering left a lot to be desired. I'd say they have a classic albums worth of material between the 3 releases.

I just hope they don't try to go the Eminem route and make some bullshit virtue signaling track to make up for shit.

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Too late as EL-P is complaining about no one rewarding him for or paying attention to his virtue signaling.
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this may be a blessing in disguise.
Monotonous wrote:I like EL's response. That was good shit. But it's different sitting down and writing out some shit after the fact vs sitting down for an interview with a dude who you're supposedly friends with.

RTJ has made some fantastic music. The last offering left a lot to be desired. I'd say they have a classic albums worth of material between the 3 releases.

I just hope they don't try to go the Eminem route and make some bullshit virtue signaling track to make up for shit.

is an understatement. terrible album. time for them to go solo. (the first two were tuff).



I watched mike's NRA vid, it sounded pretty normal. typical shit you hear. the problem is puss ass progressive newjacks expect every artist to be as woke as them. this is almost as dumb as when rolling stone tried to make the migos sound like homophobes.
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Dr. Umar Johnson on the next RTJ album?

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There will be at least one dreadfully awkward "concept" track that is robustly anti-gun. EL-P will play the role of a home invader or something, but it will turn out in the end he only broke into the home for food. Mike will be standing over him with an AR-15 and right before he pulls the trigger, he'll hand him a sandwich instead.

The end will be EL-P trying to hauntingly chant: "Anytime...Anywhere" or some other nonsensical, slightly metaphysical shit.

Lots of synths too.

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Employee wrote:There will be at least one dreadfully awkward "concept" track that is robustly anti-gun.

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Looks like i was late by a couple hours for EL's virtue signaling. Lol.

They should do a RTJ vs Prhyme mashup. That could potentially suck less than their last releases.

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Monotonous wrote:Looks like i was late by a couple hours for EL's virtue signaling. Lol.
It's inevitable with that guy, really; it aligns with his politics as he's expressed them so that's not what is stomach churning. It's more of the way that whole political slant has become so controlling, so dictatorial, so deformed and really fly in the face of his catalog as it is very much a screed against the kind of Orwellian governmental control and socio-cultural control he rallies in favor of today. Virtue Signaling in the form of thinly-veiled Twitter Begging doesn't help any.
Monotonous wrote:They should do a RTJ vs Prhyme mashup. That could potentially suck less than their last releases.
Don't give that one guy who is constantly posting blends any ideas.

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His Twitter begging wasn't veiled...let alone thinly.

Its sad really.

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Solid move to purge what has become one of the worst and most annoying fan bases in all of music. Maybe I’ll come to a show now.

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Killer Mike's full NRATV interview:



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The New Yorker reads Killer Mike's disingenuous steezo from a mile away.

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I remember him saying he was a libertarian a while ago and mentioned voting for Jill Stein. None of this surprises me. However, I did want to know what he meant by his version of libertarianism some more though.


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