1993 or 1994?

Career Over Like Mike(NJJ) · Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:52 am

1994 is the better year overall, but there's no albums from that year I love as much as Doggystyle and Buhloone Mind State.

Plus there's also Akinyele's Vagina Diner and Mac Mall's Illegal Business which both REALLY shoulda been in that 1993 pile.

1993 also has a few of my fave random 12"s (no Conehead22):

KMD - What A N*ggy Know
UGK - Pocket Full Of Stones (Pimp C remix)
Big L - Devil's Son
DJ Jimi & Juvenile - Bounce For The Juvenile
M.O.P - How About Some Hardcore

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:14 am

I own Vagina on tape. Mac I have but felt like it wouldn't resonate like some of the others.

Career Over Like Mike(NJJ) · Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:14 am

Another 1993 fave album: the indie version of Dru Down's first CD with Weak Move, Bigger Than What You Think and Dru Rules on it.

Career Over Like Mike(NJJ) · Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:17 am

Philaflava wrote:Mac I have but felt like it wouldn't resonate like some of the others.

Illegal Business bodies the albums by LOTUG, Pete Nice, LL, and Eric Sermon.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:22 am

I'll give you the LL and E-Dub, but the Lords was fun. It was simple, Das EFXish and had some great K-Def production too. Pete Nice is just a personal fav. I'm a sucker for all things Beatnuts related.

Career Over Like Mike(NJJ) · Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:28 am

LOTUG album had 1 good song to me, and I never wanna hear that song again in my life

1993 also has the first Beatnuts EP, Mac Dre's Young Black Brotha compilation, and 8Ball & MJG's Comin' Out Hard album.

So, yeah, 1994 is still the superior year, but 1993 is way better than that pile of CDs suggests

Rhyme 4 Rhyme · Post by **Rhyme 4 Rhyme** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:44 am

I'll go with '94.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:17 pm

Career Over Like Mike(NJJ) wrote:LOTUG album had 1 good song to me, and I never wanna hear that song again in my life

1993 also has the first Beatnuts EP, Mac Dre's Young Black Brotha compilation, and 8Ball & MJG's Comin' Out Hard album.

So, yeah, 1994 is still the superior year, but 1993 is way better than that pile of CDs suggests

Funky Child
Chief Rocka
Pyscho
Here Come The Lords
Check It

All solid. Even the Flow On (Pete Rock remix) knocks. It's just music that doesn't age well. Agree on the Comin' Out Hard album but On Top Of The World is my fav of theirs. YBB dominated the 93-94 years.

GUCCI CONDOMS · Post by **GUCCI CONDOMS** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:29 pm

This thread is now about #eastcoastbias

Clean Hobo · Post by **Clean Hobo** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:02 pm

Career Over Like Mike(NJJ) wrote:Another 1993 fave album: the indie version of Dru Down's first CD with Weak Move, Bigger Than What You Think and Dru Rules on it.

I need a link for that Dru Down.

Career Over Like Mike(NJJ) · Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:17 pm

Clean Hobo wrote:
Career Over Like Mike(NJJ) wrote:Another 1993 fave album: the indie version of Dru Down's first CD with Weak Move, Bigger Than What You Think and Dru Rules on it.
I need a link for that Dru Down.

It's on Spotify etc. It's called Fools From The Streets although it just says Dru Down on the cover

I assume sample clearance fucked up the 3 songs I mentioned not making it onto Explicit Game.

Weak Move was Jacka's fave Dru Down song apparently

Gloss fux with Weak Move too because he put it on one of the Bay mixes on the :phila:odcast

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:21 pm

Maybe the Nostalgia is dying in me but can you actually put on a Lords of the underground album in 2018 and enjoy it? Like,that whole era and style (Das EFX, shadez of lingo, etc included) is so unlistenable to me now. And I loved it back then.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:52 pm

Blockhead wrote:Maybe the Nostalgia is dying in me but can you actually put on a Lords of the underground album in 2018 and enjoy it? Like,that whole era and style (Das EFX, shadez of lingo, etc included) is so unlistenable to me now. And I loved it back then.

No, it hasn't aged well. I'm well aware of that. Anything with that tongue twisting gibberish isn't flying these days. Hold It Down by Das is still enjoyable tho. The vibe of music these days is similar in the same simplicity as far as lyrics go, but it's much darker I feel.

Clean Hobo · Post by **Clean Hobo** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:07 pm

Career Over Like Mike(NJJ) wrote:
Clean Hobo wrote:
Career Over Like Mike(NJJ) wrote:Another 1993 fave album: the indie version of Dru Down's first CD with Weak Move, Bigger Than What You Think and Dru Rules on it.
I need a link for that Dru Down.
It's on Spotify etc. It's called Fools From The Streets although it just says Dru Down on the cover

I assume sample clearance fucked up the 3 songs I mentioned not making it onto Explicit Game.

Weak Move was Jacka's fave Dru Down song apparently

Gloss fux with Weak Move too because he put it on one of the Bay mixes on the :phila:odcast

Very nice. That’s the track from D-Shot’s original Boss Ballin’ compilation?

WiCkEd22 · Post by **WiCkEd22** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:42 pm

'93 and '94 are the two greatest back-to-back years. I turned 19 in '93 and 20 in '94. I voted '94, but could easily go with '93 on another day.

LOL at listing that Bay Area Rap crap like Dru Down. Mac Mall was OK, but I rarely listened to Rap shit as I was always listening to HipHop.

I can still easily listen to that LOTUG album... the production from K-Def and Marley Marl was top notch.

step one · Post by **step one** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:48 pm

step one · Post by **step one** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:11 pm

Music had a longer shelf life back then and those albums that dropped at the tale end of '93 (Snoop, Wu, Tribe etc) were still in heavy rotation with singles/remixes and videos well into 1994 so that kind of gives 94 the edge I think.

Some of that "east coast stomp" stuff from the first part of 93 definitely hasn't aged aswell, whereas 94/95 kind of became the blueprint for all the boombap stuff that would follow for years to come, especially in terms of tempo. The 93 NY stuff tends to be a bit noisier.
No way could I listen to whole LOTUG or even Das EFX album now but listening back to mixtapes and radio show from the era they were getting serious spins, along with Fu-Schnickens. If I hear something of theirs in the middle of a playlist or a mix that's cool but anything more and I'm skipping.

GUCCI CONDOMS · Post by **GUCCI CONDOMS** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:14 pm

WiCkEd22 wrote:'93 and '94 are the two greatest back-to-back years. I turned 19 in '93 and 20 in '94. I voted '94, but could easily go with '93 on another day.

LOL at listing that Bay Area Rap crap like Dru Down. Mac Mall was OK, but I rarely listened to Rap shit as I was always listening to HipHop.

I can still easily listen to that LOTUG album... the production from K-Def and Marley Marl was top notch.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:27 pm

step one wrote:Music had a longer shelf life back then and those albums that dropped at the tale end of '93 (Snoop, Wu, Tribe etc) were still in heavy rotation with singles/remixes and videos well into 1994 so that kind of gives 94 the edge I think.

The digital age ruined a lot of that. Too accessible. Too many releases. Back in the 90s, you had a budget, you worked in a studio on an album and then the label eventually put it out. Usually, a lead-off single, followed by the actual release and a few more singles. An album was properly worked. If Tribe dropped an album, you knew it would be another 2-3 more years before we got another one so you really appreciated it.

Now, anyone can drop anything at any given time. No pressing. No release date. No anticipation. Kanye and all his shit he did with Pusha, Nas and Kid Cudi is a prime example. With the exception of a few Pusha tracks and maybe 1 Nas, do you revisit those albums? They came out less than 2 months ago too. You probably stopped giving a shit about them after the first day or so.

step one · Post by **step one** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:36 pm

WiCkEd22 wrote:'93 and '94 are the two greatest back-to-back years. I turned 19 in '93 and 20 in '94.

clarifying what age he was the year after he was 19 was my favourite part

I didn't want to derail the thread but general consensus says 88-89 has a strong claim for best back to back years. Wicked wouldn't know this because his introduction to hiphop was C&C Music Factory and Gerado. He was bumping Do The Bartman relentlessly in 1990.

step one · Post by **step one** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:36 pm

Voted 93 btw

BIG - Party & Bullshit
Poetic Justice soundtrack
Boss -Progress Of Elimination (remix)
Co Defendants ft Rob Base - Get Cha Weight Up
Das EFX - Kaught In Da Ak (DJ Premier remix)
Digital Underground - Body Hat Syndrome
Dr Dre - Let Me Ride (extended remix)
Fat Joe LP
Funkmaster Flex ft Nine - 6 Million Ways To Die
Jeru - Come Clean
Kam - Neva Again
LONS - What's Next
Naughty By Nature 2nd LP
Nubian Crackers ft Artifacts - Do You Wanna Hear It
Run DMC ft Pete Rock & CL - Down With The King
Threat - Let The Dogs Loose

Neuro · Post by **Neuro** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:39 pm

Whoa my first time hearing that Big L Devils Son track. Super ILL

Clean Hobo · Post by **Clean Hobo** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:20 am

GUCCI CONDOMS wrote:
WiCkEd22 wrote:'93 and '94 are the two greatest back-to-back years. I turned 19 in '93 and 20 in '94. I voted '94, but could easily go with '93 on another day.

LOL at listing that Bay Area Rap crap like Dru Down. Mac Mall was OK, but I rarely listened to Rap shit as I was always listening to HipHop.

I can still easily listen to that LOTUG album... the production from K-Def and Marley Marl was top notch.

Vintage

PTS · Post by **PTS** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:43 am

Tough one...I guess 94 on the strength of Outkast, Scarface and Beatnuts...

Also, music doesn't "age", it is inherently good or bad from the start... You just realize years later that you were influenced by a fad...

GUCCI CONDOMS · Post by **GUCCI CONDOMS** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:30 am

PTS wrote:Tough one...I guess 94 on the strength of Outkast, Scarface and Beatnuts...

Also, music doesn't "age", it is inherently good or bad from the start... You just realize years later that you were influenced by a fad...

Good point, I agree with this...

GUCCI CONDOMS · Post by **GUCCI CONDOMS** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:31 am

Philaflava wrote:

#HOTTAKE

We come strapped is the best album shown in this picture...

Spartan · Post by **Spartan** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:52 am

stype_ones · Post by **stype_ones** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:57 am

Gucci with the outrageous hottake

I'm taking 94 by a slight margin because as far as albums go it really was kinda the best year in Hip Hop History. 93 was amazing in it's own way of course but I mean 94 is just too relentless.

Clean Hobo · Post by **Clean Hobo** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:33 pm

GUCCI CONDOMS wrote:
Philaflava wrote:
#HOTTAKE

We come strapped is the best album shown in this picture...

I listen to Get In Where You Fit In more these days, but MC Eiht and CMW was toward the top of my list for a long time. Still love them but I don’t play their music a ton.

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