Beanie Sigel vs. Styles P

Seiko Flossberg · Post by **Seiko Flossberg** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:59 am

Sigel Sigel in the house!

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:00 am

Sigel, only because he's a more dependable artist I feel like. Styles might be nicer at times, but Time Is Money definitely hurt him in my eyes. If his Koch album is crazy though, and Beanie doesn't drop or drops a brick, I could change my mind about this one by the end of the year.

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:06 am

This poll is basically voted on by people, who don't even own/haven't heard 1/10th of Styles P/Lox material. Most people here didn't even listen to a Lox song until 2001, and I'm being generous. I bet no one on here who voted could name ten Styles P joints before his first LP. They probably couldn't list 10 Lox tracks not on LPs.

Seiko Flossberg · Post by **Seiko Flossberg** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:10 am

Magneto wrote:This poll is basically voted on by people, who don't even own/haven't heard 1/10th of Styles P/Lox material.

It's not like we're talking about Stack Bundles.

ALASKA · Post by **ALASKA** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:13 am

beanie. never liked much of what i heard from styles, but he does have good productionf for the most part.

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:13 am

Seiko Flossberg wrote:
Magneto wrote:This poll is basically voted on by people, who don't even own/haven't heard 1/10th of Styles P/Lox material.

It's not like we're talking about Stack Bundles.

Yeah, but look at the demographic of the people voted on this board, my nigga. I highly doubt 99% of these kids were copping mixtapes in the mid 90s where the Lox made their legacy. I'm talking about tapes you can't find on albumbase.com or Ares. I mean, shit you had either have it, or you don't. They are basically voting on something, and they don't really have a knowledge of what they are discussing.

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:13 am

ALASKA wrote:beanie. never liked much of what i heard from styles, but he does have good productionf for the most part.

See what I'm talking about. lol...

Seiko Flossberg · Post by **Seiko Flossberg** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:16 am

Ok, I see what you're saying, Mag.

Vlad Analogue · Post by **Vlad Analogue** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:23 am

styles. only me and mag so far?

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:57 am

Iגve heard Styles before he got popular. I canגt say I heard all their mixtapes or street tracks while they weren't really available and Iגm a snob to any tape that isnגt good quality so I probably didnגt give many tracks a listen. The stuff heגs done with Main Source, CRU and early Ruff Ryders stuff Iגve been a fan of.

To me he isnגt better than Jada and Jada and Beans are kinda in the same league. Iגd say Beans is better because his track record is, whether its because of his affiliation, budget, whatever, he is just is better rapper now. I rather listen to Beans than Style P albums.

Pizon · Post by **Pizon** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:09 am

Magneto wrote:
Seiko Flossberg wrote:
Magneto wrote:This poll is basically voted on by people, who don't even own/haven't heard 1/10th of Styles P/Lox material.

It's not like we're talking about Stack Bundles.
Yeah, but look at the demographic of the people voted on this board, my nigga. I highly doubt 99% of these kids were copping mixtapes in the mid 90s where the Lox made their legacy. I'm talking about tapes you can't find on albumbase.com or Ares. I mean, shit you had either have it, or you don't. They are basically voting on something, and they don't really have a knowledge of what they are discussing.

Mixtapes/unreleased tracks don't count.

(I still voted Styles.)

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:15 am

Magneto wrote:
Seiko Flossberg wrote:
Magneto wrote:This poll is basically voted on by people, who don't even own/haven't heard 1/10th of Styles P/Lox material.

It's not like we're talking about Stack Bundles.
Yeah, but look at the demographic of the people voted on this board, my nigga. I highly doubt 99% of these kids were copping mixtapes in the mid 90s where the Lox made their legacy. I'm talking about tapes you can't find on albumbase.com or Ares. I mean, shit you had either have it, or you don't. They are basically voting on something, and they don't really have a knowledge of what they are discussing.

Sure, but how many of these same people know about Beanie's mixtapes (and I don't mean the Public Enemy ones or the State Property ones). How many own the mixtapes Beanie was droppin' in Philly before he caught Jigga's attention?

Styles is a beast and for my money a better lyricist than Beanie. But Beanie has a consistent major label track record and is a better song writer (not a better straight spitter, but better at writing more conceptual shit). Bringing up the fact that most of this board wasn't up on the Warlox, his appearances on mid-nineties mixtapes, or even the Bad Boy era Lox (minus Benjamins) just comes off a little snobbish Mag. I agree that Styles is very underrated on this board in general, but it's not like Beanie is any type of slouch either. There's really no wrong answer to this poll as I see it.

I knew who Styles was, years before I'd ever heard of Beanie, but Beanie has improved leaps and bounds over the years whereas Styles has only really gotten better at being very one-dimensional. That's just my two though.

mud · Post by **mud** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:19 am

Pizon wrote:
Mixtapes/unreleased tracks don't count.

Yes they do.

Funk Docta Bombay · Post by **Funk Docta Bombay** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:07 am

mud wrote:
Pizon wrote:
Mixtapes/unreleased tracks don't count.
Yes they do.

but they still count for less than album material.

chump change · Post by **chump change** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:10 am

Funk Docta Bombay wrote:
mud wrote:
Pizon wrote:
Mixtapes/unreleased tracks don't count.
Yes they do.
but they still count for less than album material.

jesus christ

samdoom · Post by **samdoom** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:12 am

Styles.

Gangster and a Gentleman>>>The Truth>>the B.Coming>>>>>The Reason

Time is Money was weak, but Styles is still nicer than Beanie.

hessbz12 · Post by **hessbz12** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:33 am

samdoom wrote: Gangster and a Gentleman>>>The Truth>>the B.Coming>>>>>The Reason

I disagree. While Gangster and a Gentleman is dope, it's not seeing any of Sigel's albums. I like Styles, but like Gloss said Jada > Styles and Beanie and Jada are on the same level.

My vote is Sigel. And I heard of Styles way before Sigel.

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:44 am

Funk Docta Bombay wrote:
mud wrote:
Pizon wrote:
Mixtapes/unreleased tracks don't count.
Yes they do.
but they still count for less than album material.

No.

Magneto · Post by **Magneto** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:45 am

Album rankings

The Reason >>>>>>>>>> Any Styles P LP.

The Truth is pretty much ass, minus 5 songs. B.Coming is dope, but the production could've been better.

Catalog as a whole Styles P >>>>>>> Roc-A-Fella Records minus A few Jay-Z Lps, basically.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:49 am

Magneto wrote:
The Truth is pretty much ass, minus 5 songs. B.Coming is dope, but the production could've been better.

5 songs is a lot these days when you're talking about a 12-13 track album. 5 songs is actually more than what you'll usually find on a Jada or Styles LP.

What's important is how good are those 5 songs. And I count at least 6 bangin tracks off his debut.

Who Want Want
Raw & Uncut
Pac Man
Stop, Chill
Mac & Brad
What Ya Life Like

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:59 am

Philaflava wrote:
Magneto wrote:
The Truth is pretty much ass, minus 5 songs. B.Coming is dope, but the production could've been better.
5 songs is a lot these days when you're talking about a 12-13 track album. 5 songs is actually more than what you'll usually find on a Jada or Styles LP.

What's important is how good are those 5 songs. And I count at least 6 bangin tracks off his debut.

Who Want Want
Raw & Uncut
Pac Man
Stop, Chill
Mac & Brad
What Ya Life Like

You don't consider the title track a banger? I do.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:00 pm

^ I do and I forgot.

Shit I even like the jawn with Eve.

Funk Docta Bombay · Post by **Funk Docta Bombay** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:14 pm

chump change wrote:
Funk Docta Bombay wrote:
mud wrote:
Pizon wrote:
Mixtapes/unreleased tracks don't count.
Yes they do.
but they still count for less than album material.
jesus christ

HopeLess · Post by **HopeLess** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:53 pm

Holiday(check the sig

)
My Brother
Gangster And A Gentleman
Nobody Believes Me
Listen

All hold up to any of Beanie's stuff too.

I like Beanie a lot, but I also find my favorite tracks of his usually involve him with other rappers "This Can't Be Life", "Guess Who's Back", "What We Do" etc. Which makes me automatically compare his shit with Style's Lox material as well.

And The Reason is a really dope album, and I enjoyed The Truth and B.Coming a lot...but overall, I'd give the edge to Styles.

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:20 pm

Magneto wrote: B.Coming is dope, but the production could've been better.

AXEWOUNDFISTER · Post by **AXEWOUNDFISTER** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:35 pm

i voted on p, duke just flips words nice..

sigel is nice too don't get me wrong.lol jada riped him somethin vicious tho

AXEWOUNDFISTER · Post by **AXEWOUNDFISTER** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:38 pm

hessbz12 wrote: Jada are on the same level.

ol boy is NOT on the same level as jada homie...reachin

ackbar · Post by **ackbar** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:42 pm

Magneto wrote:Catalog as a whole Styles P >>>>>>> Roc-A-Fella Records minus A few Jay-Z Lps, basically.

RacquetballGangsta · Post by **RacquetballGangsta** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:44 pm

pinero.

sigel gets too much shine just from being Jigga's number 2 for so long.