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drizzle wrote:

ardamus wrote:

Balzac wrote:if you liked that stuff in the 90's, but hate on it now you're fronting.

co-sign

I don't remember anybody in the 90's being mad because Paul Wolfowitz is getting in the way of their righteous left-wing revolutionary cocaine sales

But i do remember that a decent amount of politically-themed music, rap or otherwise, has ALWAYS been reactionary, poorly informed and pandering to generations looking for a cause in an uncertain time. For every Marvin Gaye, Bob Dylan and Chuck D, there's always been dozens of Immortal Techniques.

Also suggesting hypocrisy because I might have enjoyed something similar in the 90s implies that at 27 I should have the mentality of a teenager. For this to hold any water means I have learned NOTHING in the last 14 or 15 years, that my development stopped somewhere around 93-96. Is that how you two feel about yourselves, that your understanding of the world around you hasn't improved since middle school (assuming you're around my age of course)?

I Drive A Lexus wrote:LOL @ Intuition and Y@k.

He also got caught posting under various aliases which he'd come to his own rescue with in threads he'd get sonned in on UGHH.com and he went nutso on a girl from UGHH threatening to rape her after she embarrassed him by posting up aim convos of him tryna holla at her with the most laughable e-game i've ever seen.

D. James wrote:In the tradition of Chuck D, Woody Guthrie, Ian MacKaye, KRS-1, Amiri Baraka, June Jordan, etc.

HellRell'sToiletAdventure wrote:

Balzac wrote:

HellRell'sToiletAdventure wrote:

Balzac wrote:

HellRell'sToiletAdventure wrote: lol or you have grown a brain

you're dismissing political rap from the 90's as childish?

really?

are you a socialist

you're from edmonton right? you and your economy exist because it is expedient for oil companies to allow you to.

socialism is a bad look everywhere but especially when you are posting on a tuesday morning from a computer job in one of the most oil-rich regions of the world

HellRell'sToiletAdventure wrote:it doesn't this is just a good old fashion OWNING

drizzle wrote:

ardamus wrote:

Balzac wrote:if you liked that stuff in the 90's, but hate on it now you're fronting.

co-sign

I don't remember anybody in the 90's being mad because Paul Wolfowitz is getting in the way of their righteous left-wing revolutionary cocaine sales

But i do remember that a decent amount of politically-themed music, rap or otherwise, has ALWAYS been reactionary, poorly informed and pandering to generations looking for a cause in an uncertain time. For every Marvin Gaye, Bob Dylan and Chuck D, there's always been dozens of Immortal Techniques.

Also suggesting hypocrisy because I might have enjoyed something similar in the 90s implies that at 27 I should have the mentality of a teenager. For this to hold any water means I have learned NOTHING in the last 14 or 15 years, that my development stopped somewhere around 93-96. Is that how you two feel about yourselves, that your understanding of the world around you hasn't improved since middle school (assuming you're around my age of course)?

Immortal Technique wrote:See this is what happens when someone expresses their favorite opnion about an MC, then people who dickride their fav artists have to come in here and talk shit.

LOOK FAGGOTS.

You can express your like for your boy over me without talking shit about me. Do you understand that simple concept muthafuckas !??!!?!

And to take a song like Obnoxious the least positive least about anything song and compare it Aceyalones deepest abstract rah rah that you are sucking on doesnt make sense. Or Canibus' 90's classics. That just doesnt make sense, pussies.

Listen to the whole album before you talk shit.

And I would like to make something clear, while I will stomp a rapper the fuck out no matter who you think you are or what screen name you hide behind. I never bring it to people for no reason, I play cool and I am down to build with anyone. I would never compare myself to Canibus, we are from two different times when the stakes were different and labels were trying to being the man down. I have nothing but respect for him for lyrically making the game step up...Getting hated on still making good records and Aceyalone and all the rest of the cats brought up.

I don't need to floss my intelligence like it was a watch or chain I worked to acquire, that defeats the purpose of focusing my energy on things in the first place, faggots. I am honored that people like my music and that I am more independent than all these cats who fly the fuckin flag and have none of those aspects.

People here are very pleased that I got the HipHop quotable in the source this months. They are glad that even with my distribution cut I managed to move the album and more importantly the MESSAGE which is in just about every song except Obnoxious. AHAHahAH



How about I do a song with Canibus, Aceyalone and Sage Francis and all of you calm the fuck down. If not, come holla at me in the streets and we can settle this face to face, pussies.


But for real, next time you like someone better than me you really don't like to come at me to express that, faggots.


Immortal
Technique

Ps. I lived in Harlem since before you were born so I 'settle shit on the block'. Not at the neighborhood 7-11, not in the meadow park, Not afterhomecoming dances, not at skating rinks, and NOT behind bleachers with gym teachers like you. Fuckin' homos.

Philaflava wrote:
also it brings me some sadness to announce that hustle crowe told me he retired from again. at least he won the snowgoons contest during his brief return.

Balzac wrote:

HellRell'sToiletAdventure wrote:

Balzac wrote:if you liked that stuff in the 90's, but hate on it now you're fronting.

lol or you have grown a brain

you're dismissing political rap from the 90's as childish?

really?

hired gun wrote:

Balzac wrote:

HellRell'sToiletAdventure wrote:

Balzac wrote:if you liked that stuff in the 90's, but hate on it now you're fronting.

lol or you have grown a brain

you're dismissing political rap from the 90's as childish?

really?

So wait.. you're saying Immortal Technique=Paris? Were you around then?

ardamus wrote:

drizzle wrote:

ardamus wrote:

Balzac wrote:if you liked that stuff in the 90's, but hate on it now you're fronting.

co-sign

I don't remember anybody in the 90's being mad because Paul Wolfowitz is getting in the way of their righteous left-wing revolutionary cocaine sales

But i do remember that a decent amount of politically-themed music, rap or otherwise, has ALWAYS been reactionary, poorly informed and pandering to generations looking for a cause in an uncertain time. For every Marvin Gaye, Bob Dylan and Chuck D, there's always been dozens of Immortal Techniques.

Also suggesting hypocrisy because I might have enjoyed something similar in the 90s implies that at 27 I should have the mentality of a teenager. For this to hold any water means I have learned NOTHING in the last 14 or 15 years, that my development stopped somewhere around 93-96. Is that how you two feel about yourselves, that your understanding of the world around you hasn't improved since middle school (assuming you're around my age of course)?

Nice essay, drizzle.
So from you're saying is that, you have a problem with the artist and not the message, correct? I more so mean the message; not liking artist.....thats always personal preference.

Balzac wrote:

hired gun wrote:

Balzac wrote:

HellRell'sToiletAdventure wrote:

Balzac wrote:if you liked that stuff in the 90's, but hate on it now you're fronting.

lol or you have grown a brain

you're dismissing political rap from the 90's as childish?

really?

So wait.. you're saying Immortal Technique=Paris? Were you around then?

i was

and i own all paris albums, and have heard all immortal techs albums.

u?

drizzle wrote:

ardamus wrote:

drizzle wrote:

ardamus wrote:

Balzac wrote:if you liked that stuff in the 90's, but hate on it now you're fronting.

co-sign

I don't remember anybody in the 90's being mad because Paul Wolfowitz is getting in the way of their righteous left-wing revolutionary cocaine sales

But i do remember that a decent amount of politically-themed music, rap or otherwise, has ALWAYS been reactionary, poorly informed and pandering to generations looking for a cause in an uncertain time. For every Marvin Gaye, Bob Dylan and Chuck D, there's always been dozens of Immortal Techniques.

Also suggesting hypocrisy because I might have enjoyed something similar in the 90s implies that at 27 I should have the mentality of a teenager. For this to hold any water means I have learned NOTHING in the last 14 or 15 years, that my development stopped somewhere around 93-96. Is that how you two feel about yourselves, that your understanding of the world around you hasn't improved since middle school (assuming you're around my age of course)?

Nice essay, drizzle.
So from you're saying is that, you have a problem with the artist and not the message, correct? I more so mean the message; not liking artist.....thats always personal preference.

See what you did here, you steam rolled any subtlety and nuance in what i said to simply call me a hater - very analogous to what IT does with complex political themes. He reduces them to simple easily palpable one dimensional trivialities that suggest that the current mess can be resolved with similarly easy answers and acts of vaguely political violence. Balzac suggested that it's good to have at least somebody like him around, but is that the influence you want passed to the kids who might actually take him seriously? Is this what you want to leave behind, a legacy of poorly informed mediocrity where everybody gets a hug and a gold star for trying?

tehgiftofgab wrote:stfu!

I Drive A Lexus wrote:Man, get all these dullards like Hired Gun, Ardamus and Balzac outta the thread and bring back da god D. James.

tehgiftofgab wrote:All I know is these pics cause long-lasting erections for me.

ardamus wrote:

I Drive A Lexus wrote:Man, get all these dullards like Hired Gun, Ardamus and Balzac outta the thread and bring back da god D. James.

There's a revolution in my softbatch pants.

HomieDontPlayDat wrote: That said, he's pretty big here in England, relatively speaking. Kids here eat that kinda shit up.

hired gun wrote:

Balzac wrote:

hired gun wrote:

Balzac wrote:

HellRell'sToiletAdventure wrote: lol or you have grown a brain

you're dismissing political rap from the 90's as childish?

really?

So wait.. you're saying Immortal Technique=Paris? Were you around then?

i was

and i own all paris albums, and have heard all immortal techs albums.

u?

So you consider immortal a legend? You compared him as well to Cube and PE, i have all of Chuck's albums save for maybe a few in between 96-00 and the most relevant of Cube's. My sampling of IT, I wouldnt rate them as exactly the same thing. no, I don't own all of paris's album...but we're both dealing from a subjective opinion arent we? I just find that interesting....