2011 NFL Draft/Offseason Thread

Gregg Popabitch · Post by **Gregg Popabitch** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:36 pm

Addai is alright. You can do worse at RB. I just don't think he's worth the contract that he got.

On to other news: the Rams, Seahawks, Broncos, Chargers and Ravens have been given permission to speak to Osi Umenyiora and his agent. Giants still want a first round pick for him.

alpha · Post by **alpha** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:41 pm

Zach Miller visited Seattle yesterday.

Gregg Popabitch · Post by **Gregg Popabitch** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:41 pm

The eagles keep signing players. fuck, do they even operate under a salary cap?!?!

Gregg Popabitch · Post by **Gregg Popabitch** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:23 pm

coincidentally, my twitter account was hacked yesterday

an-also · Post by **an-also** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:26 pm

Gregg Popabitch wrote:Addai is alright. You can do worse at RB. I just don't think he's worth the contract that he got.

On to other news: the Rams, Seahawks, Broncos, Chargers and Ravens have been given permission to speak to Osi Umenyiora and his agent. Giants still want a first round pick for him.

High asking price

capable_keL · Post by **capable_keL** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:05 pm

bryant mckinnie was released due to him eating venus & serena williams

Gregg Popabitch · Post by **Gregg Popabitch** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:03 pm

an-also wrote:
Gregg Popabitch wrote:Addai is alright. You can do worse at RB. I just don't think he's worth the contract that he got.

On to other news: the Rams, Seahawks, Broncos, Chargers and Ravens have been given permission to speak to Osi Umenyiora and his agent. Giants still want a first round pick for him.
High asking price

It is.

But I don't think the Giants need to move him. They have depth at DE. And Osi's a premier pass rusher.

Gregg Popabitch · Post by **Gregg Popabitch** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:04 pm

Eagles sign Ronnie Brown

Gregg Popabitch wrote:The eagles keep signing players. fuck, do they even operate under a salary cap?!?!

wheels · Post by **wheels** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:05 pm

What did they get Brown for though? He had to have been cheap

The Rapping Coffin · Post by **The Rapping Coffin** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:24 pm

Haynesworth is saying the right things.

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- Veteran defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth met with reporters for the first time since he was acquired by the Patriots in a trade, and said he is looking forward to the chance to restore his name from a football standpoint.

Albert Haynesworth sees his trade to the Patriots as a chance at a fresh start.
"It's a great chance to be on a great team; it's a chance, I guess, to restore my name or whatever you want to say," Haynesworth said. "Just a great chance to get back on the field and play football."

Asked what he meant by restoring his name, he said, "Just to show that Albert Haynesworth can still play football."

As for his past transgressions, he said, "Everything is in the past. I'm leaving all that stuff back in Washington. Right now, I'm just concentrating on being a great player for this organization. ... Forget about all that stuff. It's all in the past. It's all about now, re-writing my name as Albert Haynesworth the Patriot."

Other Haynesworth soundbites:

On his role on the defense. "Just to kill the quarterback."

The Patriots' scheme. "It's somewhat of an adjustment from what I was doing the last two years, but I'm kind of getting back to things I normally used to do. I just have to get my legs wet again and then I'll be OK."

Teaming up with Vince Wilfork at DT. "It's going to be scary, scary for other teams. ... I went to the Pro Bowl with Vince and the funny thing is, I said 'What if we were on the same team?' He was like, 'That would be crazy, there's no way that's going to happen.' But 2, 3 years later, here we are."

On a fresh start. "Of course. It's a new team, a great organization. I've been a fan of this team for a long time, other than when I was playing them. I always liked the Patriots."

Why he's been a fan of the team. "I always liked Coach Belichick, just the way he did things, the way the team performed. I came to games when I was in the pro's. I came in the AFC Championship when they were playing San Diego [in the 2007 season]. I was sitting up in the stands, freezing my butt off and sat down and watched them play. I've always been a fan of this team." [Rodney Harrison provided the tickets.]

If he feels in good shape. "Yeah, yeah, I feel all right [but] I'm still rusty. I haven't played hardly any, but now I'm getting to a role where I can play, so I have to definitely get my legs back under me."

On playing a 3-4 defense and possibly two-gapping. "I'm willing the attack the quarterback, kill the running back, and knock everything back. ... I don't care what it is. Whatever gap the ball is in, that's the gap I want to be in."

If he'd consider himself a high-motor player. "High-motor? A high-motor player is like Kyle Vanden Bosch, guys that run around non-stop like they got batteries up their butt. That's not me."

His view of Bill Belichick. "From being outside, I don't know, just the way he handled the team and everything. Now being inside, he's very detail-oriented and he demands perfection every single time. I've been with some really good teams, with a lot of great players, but I've never been in a situation where it's like perfection every time -- not for a person, but for a team."

How that will push him. "It's going to be awesome. I enjoy being here. It's a refresher, I love it, and it kind of revived me, playing football again."

What has surprised him most. "Just being here, how everybody takes you in, like I'm part of the family already. I met with Coach and we had a great conversation. I met with Mr. Kraft and we had a great conversation. Pep [Pepper Johnson]. Everything has been great, from the players, even some of the fans I ran into it. Everybody here has been awesome."

How much responsibility he takes for off-field issues. "I mean, it's all got my name on it, but I'm just going to leave that in the past, leave that in Washington, and have a fresh, new clean start here in New England."

Gregg Popabitch · Post by **Gregg Popabitch** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:31 pm

TE Zach Miller signs with the Seahawks

DT Aubrayo Franklin signs with the Saints

DT Gabe Watson signs with the NY Giants

Reason · Post by **Reason** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:37 pm

like i said in the mlb thread, the rich get richer

i have a lot of non-homer faith in my jets, but i can't front; i like the patriots on paper better right now.

a lot of ppl criticized the ochocinco pick-up b/c they say he's too similar to branch-types they already employ, they say instead they need a bigger guy, both in routes (more vertical) and size

well to that i just say they have hernandez. he's going to get better with more comfort in the system. i have a feeling hernandez is going to have a top 3 tight end season

VideoKilledThe · Post by **VideoKilledThe** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:01 pm

don't forget about Gronkowski, dude is a huge red zone target, caught 10 tds as a rookie.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:25 pm

Gregg Popabitch wrote:Eagles sign Ronnie Brown

Gregg Popabitch wrote:The eagles keep signing players. fuck, do they even operate under a salary cap?!?!

love this move. it may take some TDs away from McCoy but I see the wildcat being used more now. Great buy low move.

unclebengi · Post by **unclebengi** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:07 pm

wheels wrote:Ever think that maybe we're right and you're wrong? You always have this biased, standalone opinion and that generally means you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

passion does not lend itself well to objectivity, no matter how long you've had NFL Sunday Ticket.

You offer me nothing man. I don't know if you get a kick out of ribbing me or what. Ya know there's a lot of opinions outside of this message board. If I really believe something I'm not just gonna change my mind because a few people call me an idiot. Although passion and objectivity can conflict, they can also coexist.

PopeyeJones · Post by **PopeyeJones** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:46 pm

Philaflava wrote:
Gregg Popabitch wrote:Eagles sign Ronnie Brown

Gregg Popabitch wrote:The eagles keep signing players. fuck, do they even operate under a salary cap?!?!
love this move. it may take some TDs away from McCoy but I see the wildcat being used more now. Great buy low move.

Yep. As a #2 this is a great fucking move. I think the last couple days have also shown that (save for the Eagles) sitting out the first few days of free agency might have been an insanely smart play for a lot of teams. There's really good talent signing 1 year deals for a pittance at this point hoping that the market returns next year.

capable_keL · Post by **capable_keL** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:50 pm

the eagles know you can't buy super bowls like you could if you had more picks in fantasy football, right?

go iggs

but

smh

prelude to an anticlimactic finish is what this leads too

imo

Gregg Popabitch · Post by **Gregg Popabitch** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:28 pm

i looked at kel's sig for like 20 seconds

capable_keL · Post by **capable_keL** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:37 pm

i got

saints
iggles
bucs
pack
lions

for the kel NFC top 5

an-also · Post by **an-also** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:20 pm

Bucs eh? I think they slide back a bit this year before they explode next year. They had a pretty easy sked last year and I think they'll kind of come back down to earth this year.

unclebengi · Post by **unclebengi** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:42 pm

Colts sign Jamaal Anderson, Ernie Sims, & Tommie Harris. Some bigger names, but I doubt they paid much, these guys were available for a reason. Harris and Sims could start, though I don't know if I want them to. Good depth either way, Anderson could be really valuable as a run stopping specialist DE.

Dwight Strawberry · Post by **Dwight Strawberry** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:46 pm

Just watched the Ed Sabal special on NFL Network. Recommend it to everyone.

94 years old and he is still sharp as a tack. God Bless em!

GLUS · Post by **GLUS** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:10 am

capable_keL wrote:i got

saints
iggles
bucs
pack
lions

for the kel NFC top 5

South Saints
North Packers
West Rams
East Eagles
WC Lions
WC Falcons

GLUS · Post by **GLUS** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:11 am

unclebengi wrote:Colts sign Jamaal Anderson, Ernie Sims, & Tommie Harris. Some bigger names, but I doubt they paid much, these guys were available for a reason. Harris and Sims could start, though I don't know if I want them to. Good depth either way, Anderson could be really valuable as a run stopping specialist DE.

jamaal anderson is a dickhead

still illiterate · Post by **still illiterate** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:53 am

Detroit? really guys? Fairly and CB Eazy E put this team over the top? They still don't have a good RB, their QB is Mr Glass, the oline, lb's and safety's are still utter shit.

As far as wildcards go, Chicago, Giants, Falcons, and Bucs are clearly better.

binary · Post by **binary** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:04 am

still illiterate wrote:Detroit? really guys? Fairly and CB Eazy E put this team over the top? They still don't have a good RB, their QB is Mr Glass, the oline, lb's and safety's are still utter shit.

As far as wildcards go, Chicago, Giants, Falcons, and Bucs are clearly better.

Best is good, very explosive player.

an-also · Post by **an-also** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:08 am

capable_keL wrote:bryant mckinnie was released due to him eating venus & serena williams

read he came into camp at nearly 400 lbs.

Dwight Strawberry · Post by **Dwight Strawberry** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:26 am

Randy Moss has filed his retirement papers with the league, according to the Boston Herald.
Moss apparently was serious about this whole retirement thing. While players can file "unretirement papers," it would seem silly to make the retirement official if he really wanted to keep playing. And just to add intrigue, the Herald is reporting that the Eagles offered Moss a contract after Moss filed his papers. We still suspect that we haven't heard the end of this.

Fucking Eagles man.

Gregg Popabitch · Post by **Gregg Popabitch** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:38 am

ThaJim2 wrote:I know there is a gambling thread but this also goes to general intrest into the sport. The released Hilton Win Totals

Total wins, plus the over and under, courtesy of the Hilton.

TEAM

WINS

OVER

UNDER

CARDINALS

7

OVER -110

UNDER -110

FALCONS

10

OVER -110

UNDER -110

RAVENS

10.5

OVER -110

UNDER -110

BILLS

5.5

OVER -120

UNDER EVEN

PANTHERS

4.5

OVER -125

UNDER +105

BEARS

8.5

OVER +130

UNDER -150

BENGALS

5.5

OVER -120

UNDER EVEN

BROWNS

6.5

OVER -150

UNDER +130

COWBOYS

9

OVER -110

UNDER -110

BRONCOS

5.5

OVER -120

UNDER EVEN

LIONS

8

OVER +130

UNDER -150

PACKERS

11.5

OVER +105

UNDER -125

TEXANS

8.5

OVER -110

UNDER -110

COLTS

9.5

OVER -140

UNDER +120

JAGUARS

6.5

OVER EVEN

UNDER -120

CHIEFS

8

OVER +135

UNDER -155

DOLPHINS

7.5

OVER +110

UNDER -130

VIKINGS

7

OVER +110

UNDER -130

PATRIOTS

11.5

OVER +110

UNDER -130

SAINTS

10

OVER -110

UNDER -110

GIANTS

9.5

OVER +150

UNDER -170

JETS

10

OVER +105

UNDER -125

RAIDERS

7

OVER -110

UNDER -110

EAGLES

10.5

OVER -130

UNDER +110

STEELERS

10.5

OVER -130

UNDER +110

CHARGERS

10

OVER +115

UNDER -135

49ERS

7.5

OVER -110

UNDER -110

SEAHAWKS

6

OVER -105

UNDER -115

RAMS

7.5

OVER +130

UNDER -150

BUCS

8

OVER +135

UNDER -155

TITANS

7

OVER +120

UNDER -140

REDSKINS

6

OVER -120

UNDER EVEN

capable_keL · Post by **capable_keL** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:58 am

an-also wrote:
capable_keL wrote:bryant mckinnie was released due to him eating venus & serena williams
read he came into camp at nearly 400 lbs.

saw that right next to the Barber to the Bears piece