2015 Baseball HoF Voting

[Philaflava]

Assuming Lebatard doesn't help change the way things are. Pick the 10 you are voting in the HoF next year.

Randy Johnson
Moises Alou
Jeff Bagwell
Craig Biggio
Barry Bonds
Roger Clemens
Ray Durham
Luis Gonzalez
Jeff Kent
Edgar Martinez
Don Mattingly
Fred McGriff
Mark McGwire
Mike Mussina
Rafael Palmeiro
Mike Piazza
Tim Raines
Curt Schilling
Lee Smith
Sammy Sosa
Allan Trammell
Larry Walker
Pedro Martinez
John Smoltz
Carlos Delgado
Nomar Garciaparra
Gary Sheffield

[Philaflava]

1 Pedro
2 Randy Johnson
3 Craig Biggio
4 Mike Piazza
5 Barry Bonds
6 Roger Clemens
7 Jeff Bagwell
8 Gary Sheffield
9 Tim Raines
10 Mark McGwire

[peanut butter]

Assuming Lebatard doesn't help change the way things are.

I doubt they will. His vote will probably be taken away, but there wont be any big changes to the process. They of course could/should expand how many candidates voters are allowed to have on their ballot, but that has nothing to do DLB.

Randy Johnson
Jeff Bagwell
Craig Biggio
Barry Bonds
Roger Clemens
Mike Mussina
Mike Piazza
Tim Raines
Curt Schilling
Pedro Martinez



PEACE

[alpha]

I guess the better question is: John Smoltz. Without looking it up, I'd say yes. But I also think Big Mac is in the HOF too.

[Tommy Bunz]

Randy Johnson
Jeff Bagwell
Craig Biggio
Barry Bonds
Roger Clemens
Edgar Martinez
Mark McGwire
Mike Mussina
Mike Piazza
Tim Raines
Curt Schilling
Alan Trammell
Pedro Martinez
John Smoltz
Gary Sheffield

There's 15 I'd vote for. Have come around on Edgar.

[Joe Pesci]

Randy Johnson
Jeff Bagwell
Craig Biggio
Barry Bonds
Roger Clemens
Jeff Kent
Mike Mussina
Mike Piazza
Pedro Martinez
John Smoltz

[Roy Johnson]

Have come around on Edgar.

He's top 35 of all time in wRC+ and top 60 in wOBA.

I blame the baseball card market for ruining my perception of him. Being a compulsive collector from the mid 80s through the late 90s and constantly checking Beckett prices like I was wicked22 really fucked with my head.



His rookie card was fit for bicycle spokes. Shit, I held Buhner in a higher regard.

But then you check his career stats, and he had a wRC+ of 147 and a wOBA of .405 in nearly 9000 plate appearances. Fucking no-brain hall of famer.

Career 65 WAR. 60 is usually a good place to start if we're trying to determine whether or not a position player is worthy of hall of fame status. Trammell also qualifies at 64.

[peanut butter]

Fucked up that Edgar had to wait til he was 27 to get his shot



PEACE

[Philaflava]

Edgar is a HOF but that DH thing will always handicap some votes. If he won rings like Ortiz or had some memorable post seasons he wouldn't have had the issue. Ortiz will have little problem getting into the HOF where as Edgar who is more deserving, will continue to experience this shit.

[Tommy Bunz]

Ortiz could be the straw that breaks the PED Camel's back.
He's loved and revered and respected and has great numbers, widely regarded for clutch hitting....its going to be interested to see how he fares since he failed a drug test.

[Philaflava]

If Bonds and Clemens were well liked, which they weren't, they would be getting a lot more support. I don't know of another player who is more beloved in baseball these days than Big Papi.

[alpha]

It's all come down to steroids why they're not in, imo.

[Kid That's Lifeless]

I was surprised nobody said Nomar, but then I checked the ol' Fangraphs and turns out he only had like 3/4 awesome years that I guess felt like 12 because I was 9 during his first 7 win season.

I have the same list as Tommy + Fred McGriff even though I never got his autograph when he played here because he would never sign like a faggot. I was usually the only kid there, bro.

[jamrage]

Randy Johnson
Jeff Bagwell
Craig Biggio
Barry Bonds
Roger Clemens
Jeff Kent
Rafael Palmeiro
Mike Piazza
Tim Raines
Sammy Sosa
Pedro Martinez
John Smoltz
Gary Sheffield

Delgado, Schilling, and McGriff are bubble guys that I wouldn't vote in, but wouldn't be disgusted if they made it in eventually.

[eternalreflection]

It's all come down to steroids why they're not in, imo.

no its a bunch of old white guys from a dead medium being idiots

the HoF is full of people that did shit as bad or in many cases far worse than Steroids

[peanut butter]

It's all come down to steroids why they're not in, imo.

no its a bunch of old white guys from a dead medium being idiots

anyone who feels that way, should read this:
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/102 ... teroid-era



PEACE