Keeper League Jr. (2014)

[Tommy Bunz]

Not if they are your best players. I'm keeping at least that many in the other keeper league

[Dwight Strawberry]

Can you make the draft start at 10pm?

[alpha]

I second that. Even with good traffic I get home at the earliest at 930 est.

[Tommy Bunz]

Done.

[Tommy Bunz]

Here's my player list, would definitely like to move one of my SS before the draft

1B - Mike Napoli
1B - Albert Pujols
1B - David Ortiz
2B - Chase Utley
SS - Elvis Andrus
SS - Starlin Castro
2B/3B - Jedd Gyorko
3B/OF - Nick Castellanos
OF - Carlos Beltran
OF - Carl Crawford
OF - Jose Bautista

SP - Adam Wainwright
SP - Cole Hamels
SP - Cliff Lee

[alpha]

thanks Bunz,

tentative keepers

1b-davis
2b-kipnis
of-austin jackson
of-wil myers
of-billy hamilton

cp-nathan
sp-sherzer
sp-weaver
sp-wheeler
sp-gray
sp-perez

have odorizzi and some other good pitchers if anyone wants to deal. really think keeping hamilton might be a dumb move but whatever might get way over 50 sb this year now that choo is gone.

[Kid That's Lifeless]

Check ya PMs.

[alpha]

Saw it bro. I'll get back to you later

Anyone else want to get in on mad max bidding?

Shits getting real, baseball needs to start

[Gregg Popabitch]

Fuck your bidding war, bro.

[Tommy Bunz]

Dwight and I made a trade. Starlin for Starling.
Castro's momma left out the "G" cause the "G" ain't in him

[capable_keL]

[Philaflava]

You didn't need another SS and now you get a .270 hitter with a little pop and should swipe at least 25-30 bags.

[alpha]

Fuck your bidding war, bro.

so yeah, Sherzer or anyone else available in the right trade.

[Philaflava]

Just make sure you keep Kipnis this year bro.

[Philaflava]

Anyone interested in

Giancarlo Stanton, Brian McCann, Dom Brown, David Wright, Ellsbury, Cespedes or Rafael Soriano?

If I trade Stanton I need power in return, preferably in a 1B. I am also looking for a SS. If I trade Wright, I'll need another 3B in return of lesser value but somebody else to make up the difference.

My needs are 1B, SS, SP

[alpha]

Prob an obvious question. But gloss and I were talking who you would rather in keeper, Giancarlo "don't call me mike" Stanton or chris Davis?

[Philaflava]

He is 5 years younger, more athletic, more power and hasn't even come close to his prime years. Davis, while impressed all of us last year, is someone who could either be really great, or regress and drop his BA about 20 points off from where it was in '13. They're both studs, but I would think if there was some list of the best keepers in baseball, Stanton would not only rank higher than Davis, but he might be top 5 when you consider just how young and how much potential he has. I feel like Davis we saw him peak and now he'll more less be the same guy give or take a power numbers for the next 3 years before he becomes Justin Morneau of today.

Curious as to what everyones says. He is just asking who would you rather have in a keeper league. This doesn't mean we are trading.

[Tommy Bunz]

If I'm trying to win in the next two or three years, it's Davis. They are only 3 years apart in age.
Stanton is still hype at this point. An enormous talent but can't stay healthy. He's only played more than 123 games once in 4 full seasons.
This might be what he is at this point. a .260ish 35HR guy. Still a great, valuable player but if you can't stay on the field you can't get the counting stats that the big sluggers rack up.
Stantons never even gotten 80 Runs or more than 87 RBIs, and thats drastically reduces his value.
He'd probably go in the 2nd or 3rd round in a dynasty league.

[peanut butter]

I don't trust Davis, and his indicators support that. Best case scenario, he's going into the midst of a string of seasons similar to the ones that Ryan Howard had at his peak. Worst case scenario he is pretty much Brandon Moss. That volatility scares the shit out of me, and I pass on him every year in fantasy because of that. I believe that Stanton is the real deal, but until he stays healthy and plays for a team other than the Marlins, he's a limited fantasy player as well. But I'd bet on the well-rounded rounded skill set of Stanton, plus his relative youth and upside, rather than hoping again that everything falls perfectly for Davis' one skill to shine.


PEACE

[Tommy Bunz]

This is fantasy though, not who's more valuable in real life.
Davis had more than twice as many RBI's as Stanton last year (138 to 62!), in only 80 more at bats. That alone makes him worth taking several rounds earlier.
41 more runs. Batting average has been about 10 points higher the last two years as well. Both strike out a ton.
And again, he's only 3 years older and entering his prime seasons. Stantons upside is basically what Davis did last year.
They are pretty similar players, but one has never proven he can stay on the field, and one has already achieved his upside once.
Fantasy wise, its not a question.

[alpha]

A lot of people discount the adjustments Davis made to improve. It's not like he improved by taking steroids. These were fundamental changes to his approach that are sustainable.

That and that Stanton can't hit much outside his hot zone and that he plays for the marlins makes him(davis) way more valuable in fantasy to me.

[Kid That's Lifeless]

Wait, is pb in the league?

I'm in the Davis camp as well.

[alpha]

no he's not. in fact I don't think he's in any leagues as far as I know.

[peanut butter]

Nah I'm not. Gloss said anyone could chime in, and I just saw a cheap opportunity to talk some baseball


PEACE

[Kid That's Lifeless]

No doubt. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the whole Tommy Bunz real name is Gordon thing, so you could have been in the league for all I knew.

[Reason]

will joe mauer be catcher eligible all year?

[alpha]

Yes that's what I've heard.

[kcidwolf]

If he's eligible now, he will be all year.

Looks like a few of us could be getting quite the bump in draft ranking as only a half dozen people have paid so far. Would be a shame. Not a huge gain actually, would be a bigger deal if this wasn't a keeper league. Not a big difference in value in the first round of non-keepers. Last year I got my top two choices 1st pick and 28th pick.

[uh zip zoom]

Tentative keepers:

A McCutchen - OF
R Braun - OF
E Encarnacion - 1B/3B
R Zimmerman - 3B
C Santana - C/1B
B Zobrist - 2B/SS/OF

M Bumgarner - SP
M Latos - SP
M Cain - SP
M Wacha - SP
T Walker - SP

I have a few other potentially useful arms too if anybody is interested (Cingrani, Jim Johnson, Bundy). Let's make a deal.

[Reason]

is it just me or can i not see or find a paypal to get my money in?

not in this thread and not on the homepage of the league itself