Official 2009 MLB Season Thread

Quotashun · Post by **Quotashun** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:26 pm

Adam Lind is on FIYAAAAA.

Tommy Bunz · Post by **Tommy Bunz** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:39 pm

Can't believe we hit four fucking homeruns off Santana and still lost.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:44 am

I'll take this L if it means J-Roll will start heating up.

Dwight Strawberry · Post by **Dwight Strawberry** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:01 pm

Every Mets/Phils game this year has been fucking awesome.

I'll be at the game tomorrow night...weather permitting :(

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:31 am

And so will this man...

Tommy Bunz · Post by **Tommy Bunz** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:51 am

Dwight Strawberry wrote:Every Mets/Phils game this year has been fucking awesome.

Especially these last two which have been rollercoasters.
Werth's catch last night was insane.
Hopefully tonight's game is another good one and Jamie can keep his shit together.

pennsylvania jones · Post by **pennsylvania jones** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:41 am

Phuckin' Phils! !!!!!!!

hate hate hate hate hate

capable_keL · Post by **capable_keL** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:24 pm

Dwight Strawberry wrote:

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:04 pm

Tommy Bunz · Post by **Tommy Bunz** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:21 pm

more like

pennsylvania jones · Post by **pennsylvania jones** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:22 pm

Tommy Bunz · Post by **Tommy Bunz** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:01 pm

Fuck kyle kendrick.
I'm going to go get fucking drunk.

Reason · Post by **Reason** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:54 am

poor mets fans

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:28 am

Tommy Bunz wrote:more like

bunz has no right to post anything about ibanez since he'd rather have burrell.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:38 am

LOL I've been rough on him all season about those comments.

Tommy Bunz · Post by **Tommy Bunz** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:54 pm

Fuck that. I'm a Phillies fan first and foremost. I have the right to cheer for or bitch about anybody on my team, no matter what i've said in the past.

Also, all i said about Ibanez was:
1. We overpaid in a buyers market. Which we did and still believe this.
2. It probably isn't smart to give a 4 year deal to a 37 year old outfielder.
3. By every defensive metric known to man, Ibanez was rated either as bad or worse than Burrell. He is playing better defense than he ever has in his career. No way for anybody to predict this.
4. Burrell for two years at 16 mil is a better value if they are both healthy. (you even agreed with me on this Poppa)
5. I said all along that I LOVED his bat and that he would rake in CBP and in our lineup.

Get off my ass people lol.

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:05 pm

you could've predicted the better defense which i did make a note of before in the offseason thread.

Safeco is a pretty spacious OF. There is more room for error there. CBP is not as big.

I did agree that burrell at 2 years and 16 million was a better value but i wasn't adamant that ibanez was a bad signing.....which you were lambasting amaro on.

Tommy Bunz · Post by **Tommy Bunz** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:46 pm

I was more pissed that we used our budget money on hitting instead of pitching. There were lots of cheap bats available and we needed starting pitching (and still do). The signing looks a lot better now that Ibanez has turned into Albert Pujols, but I still think signing Derek Lowe and a cheaper bat would've been the smarter play.

Also, most of the more advanced defensive metrics take Park Factor into effect.

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:14 pm

oh? which ones. i'm always open to learning about new statistics.

Quotashun · Post by **Quotashun** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:47 pm

Vernon Wells is garbage.

Tommy Bunz · Post by **Tommy Bunz** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:08 pm

Gregg Popabitch wrote:oh? which ones. i'm always open to learning about new statistics.

i'm a big fan of UZR (Ultimate Zone Rating), which indirectly takes into account park factor by taking into account the number of ball converted into outs and the number of balls that are hits in each fielders zone of play.

Last 3 years:

Raul Ibanez
2006: -5.8
2007: -20.5
2008: -12.1

Pat Burrell
2006: -10.5
2007: -17.6
2008: -4.3

A negative number is the number of runs the player costs in the field compared to the league average. If you average these numbers out, Burrell actually cost the Phillies two runs per year less than Ibanez cost the Mariners from '06-'08. Ibanez's UZR rating this year is 5.8, meaning he's actually saved us almost six runs so far. I'd love to believe its for real, and like I've said before it really does look like he's rejuvenated now that he's playing for a contender, but I'm still skeptical that a regression to the mean isn't coming.

John Dewan's +/- system also had both of them pegged as below-average defensive players.

Go phillies.

Joe Pesci · Post by **Joe Pesci** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:22 pm

Cant believe Castillo dropped that ball.

God must really hate the Mets.

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:24 pm

yankee fans really love luis castillo though!!!!!!

Joe Pesci · Post by **Joe Pesci** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:24 pm

Michael Kay sounded like he just came in his pants

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capable_keL · Post by **capable_keL** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:22 pm

it was a tough fly ball, wind, sun...

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:55 pm

funny shit. i really do feel bad for met fans.

Tommy Bunz · Post by **Tommy Bunz** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:14 pm

Philaflava wrote:funny shit. i really do feel bad for met fans.

:blaowarrow:

capable_keL · Post by **capable_keL** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:53 am

nothing cures a rough skid better than having johizzle on the mound.

Joe Pesci · Post by **Joe Pesci** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:27 pm

Why do the Yankees only hit Cy Young winners and not scrubs named Nieve?

Joe Pesci · Post by **Joe Pesci** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:30 pm

Actually, here's a small list of people the Yankees don't hit hard under any circumstances, including if said pitcher didn't have any arms to begin with:

- Roy Halladay
- Pitchers who wear red and aren't named Josh Beckett
- 30-something year old who was probably bussing tables at his local Applebees 2 weeks ago
- Oliver Perez

Feel free to add on