10/4 Kimbo Slice vs. Ken Shamrock

D. James · Post by **D. James** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:00 am

Kimbo Slice is a legendary street fighter. As an MMA fighter, he's an inexperienced beginner who has had 4 fights. He never claimed to be anything other than that. EliteXC tried to prop him as a some kind of superman and hoped his celebrity would bring in a lot of viewers. They spent a lot of money to get their company off the ground and they needed to create superstars to attract casual fans and challenge UFC. They just went about this shit the wrong way. Curano is the real deal and should continue to be hyped, they should've been hyping up Brett Rogers, and what the fuck happened to Cung Le? He beat a couple of dudes asses on Showtime and then broke Frank Shamrock's arm and took the title from him and then we never heard from him again. EliteXC ignored fighters they should've been giving more exposure to just so they could surround Slice with hype he couldn't possibly live up to. The angle for them to take with him should've been: here's this guy who made a name for himself by brawling in the streets, let's see if he can make the transition into the completely different world of MMA. Calling him a bum is a bit much, because a lot of these MMA dudes would get destroyed by Slice in the streets.

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:47 am

D. James wrote:Kimbo Slice is a legendary street fighter. As an MMA fighter, he's an inexperienced beginner who has had 4 fights. He never claimed to be anything other than that. EliteXC tried to prop him as a some kind of superman and hoped his celebrity would bring in a lot of viewers. They spent a lot of money to get their company off the ground and they needed to create superstars to attract casual fans and challenge UFC. They just went about this shit the wrong way. Curano is the real deal and should continue to be hyped, they should've been hyping up Brett Rogers, and what the fuck happened to Cung Le? He beat a couple of dudes asses on Showtime and then broke Frank Shamrock's arm and took the title from him and then we never heard from him again. EliteXC ignored fighters they should've been giving more exposure to just so they could surround Slice with hype he couldn't possibly live up to. The angle for them to take with him should've been: here's this guy who made a name for himself by brawling in the streets, let's see if he can make the transition into the completely different world of MMA. Calling him a bum is a bit much, because a lot of these MMA dudes would get destroyed by Slice in the streets.

WOULD THEY THOUGH? I mean this is essentially a street fight but in a cage...Why would there skills not translate over into a street fight?

DLG · Post by **DLG** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:59 am

because they can't use knives?

Prophecy · Post by **Prophecy** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:02 am

D. James wrote:Kimbo Slice is a legendary street fighter. As an MMA fighter, he's an inexperienced beginner who has had 4 fights. He never claimed to be anything other than that. EliteXC tried to prop him as a some kind of superman and hoped his celebrity would bring in a lot of viewers. They spent a lot of money to get their company off the ground and they needed to create superstars to attract casual fans and challenge UFC. They just went about this shit the wrong way. Curano is the real deal and should continue to be hyped, they should've been hyping up Brett Rogers, and what the fuck happened to Cung Le? He beat a couple of dudes asses on Showtime and then broke Frank Shamrock's arm and took the title from him and then we never heard from him again. EliteXC ignored fighters they should've been giving more exposure to just so they could surround Slice with hype he couldn't possibly live up to. The angle for them to take with him should've been: here's this guy who made a name for himself by brawling in the streets, let's see if he can make the transition into the completely different world of MMA. Calling him a bum is a bit much, because a lot of these MMA dudes would get destroyed by Slice in the streets.

LOL @ thinking Slice would destroy any real fighter in the streets after dude was all but out from a jab that a dude threw while on one leg. Only thing hes proven is he can beat bums whether off the street and on you tube or for an MMA org. Dudes a bum when you put him against a real fighter as was proven in his last two fights.

artMajor · Post by **artMajor** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:27 pm

KS may be a "bum", but still a lot of heads arent fucking with him on the street or in the octagon.

I still think with a lot of training he could do some damage in MMA, make some good

fights.

I'd like to see a Slice vs.

fight

madtapes · Post by **madtapes** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:05 pm

Dont mean to come off gay here..... but what was the deal with Slice's chest hair? Who shaves one pec?

Raphael De La Ghetto · Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:19 pm

D. James wrote:Kimbo Slice is a legendary street fighter. As an MMA fighter, he's an inexperienced beginner who has had 4 fights. He never claimed to be anything other than that. EliteXC tried to prop him as a some kind of superman and hoped his celebrity would bring in a lot of viewers. They spent a lot of money to get their company off the ground and they needed to create superstars to attract casual fans and challenge UFC. They just went about this shit the wrong way. Curano is the real deal and should continue to be hyped, they should've been hyping up Brett Rogers, and what the fuck happened to Cung Le? He beat a couple of dudes asses on Showtime and then broke Frank Shamrock's arm and took the title from him and then we never heard from him again. EliteXC ignored fighters they should've been giving more exposure to just so they could surround Slice with hype he couldn't possibly live up to. The angle for them to take with him should've been: here's this guy who made a name for himself by brawling in the streets, let's see if he can make the transition into the completely different world of MMA. Calling him a bum is a bit much, because a lot of these MMA dudes would get destroyed by Slice in the streets.

Kimbo's street fights have so many rules made up beforehand that it's basically just a boxing match without gloves. Nobody will deny that Slice has great punching power. But that's about the only thing he has.

BigCat8 · Post by **BigCat8** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:13 pm

tehgiftofgab wrote:the only cool thing about kimbo is his trainer bas rutten who's my favorite and the best mma fighter ever

Which makes it surprising that Kimbo doesn't throw punches to the liver more often.

Just a thought: does anyone believe Kimbo can throw a decent high or middle kick? I certainly don't, and that eliminates an entire half of his stand-up game.

I'm rooting for Kimbo. He's pretty terrible at everything except punching, but I hope he's able to make a marked improvement and actually become successful. I doubt he'll ever be anything aside from a boxer sub-standard ground skills, but I'd like for him to prove me wrong.

Hopefully the loss is just what he needs to get him motivated at learning other aspects of the fight game.

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:38 pm

Raphael De La Ghetto wrote:
D. James wrote:Kimbo Slice is a legendary street fighter. As an MMA fighter, he's an inexperienced beginner who has had 4 fights. He never claimed to be anything other than that. EliteXC tried to prop him as a some kind of superman and hoped his celebrity would bring in a lot of viewers. They spent a lot of money to get their company off the ground and they needed to create superstars to attract casual fans and challenge UFC. They just went about this shit the wrong way. Curano is the real deal and should continue to be hyped, they should've been hyping up Brett Rogers, and what the fuck happened to Cung Le? He beat a couple of dudes asses on Showtime and then broke Frank Shamrock's arm and took the title from him and then we never heard from him again. EliteXC ignored fighters they should've been giving more exposure to just so they could surround Slice with hype he couldn't possibly live up to. The angle for them to take with him should've been: here's this guy who made a name for himself by brawling in the streets, let's see if he can make the transition into the completely different world of MMA. Calling him a bum is a bit much, because a lot of these MMA dudes would get destroyed by Slice in the streets.

kimbo's kicking a lot of people's asses but not a lot of these MMA dudes at any point.

These are some lethal people. Crocop was a fucking croatian secret police before becoming a MMA fighter. i'm sure there are several ways he could kill kimbo if he wanted in a street fight.

LameAim · Post by **LameAim** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:22 am

madtapes wrote:Dont mean to come off gay here..... but what was the deal with Slice's chest hair? Who shaves one pec?

I just figured the tattoo on the shaved side of his chest was new.

HustleCrowe · Post by **HustleCrowe** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:51 am

D. James wrote:Kimbo Slice is a legendary street fighter. As an MMA fighter, he's an inexperienced beginner who has had 4 fights. He never claimed to be anything other than that. EliteXC tried to prop him as a some kind of superman and hoped his celebrity would bring in a lot of viewers. They spent a lot of money to get their company off the ground and they needed to create superstars to attract casual fans and challenge UFC. They just went about this shit the wrong way. Curano is the real deal and should continue to be hyped, they should've been hyping up Brett Rogers, and what the fuck happened to Cung Le? He beat a couple of dudes asses on Showtime and then broke Frank Shamrock's arm and took the title from him and then we never heard from him again. EliteXC ignored fighters they should've been giving more exposure to just so they could surround Slice with hype he couldn't possibly live up to. The angle for them to take with him should've been: here's this guy who made a name for himself by brawling in the streets, let's see if he can make the transition into the completely different world of MMA. Calling him a bum is a bit much, because a lot of these MMA dudes would get destroyed by Slice in the streets.

this is a ludicrous statement..... All of the dudes Kimbo fought in those " street fights" were out of shape bums off the street who got paid 200 dollars to get three pieced by him. The only competition that Kimbo had in those " street fights" was that Police Officer who pretty much dominated that fight because he knew how to handle himself....... I don't remember if dude actually won or if they called it a draw but that dude was all over Kimbo and Kimbo couldn't just two piece him because he actually had some type of fight skill.... And actually I heard he was fired from the police department sometime after the video was posted online......

naturalborn103 · Post by **naturalborn103** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:24 am

HustleCrowe wrote:
D. James wrote:Kimbo Slice is a legendary street fighter. As an MMA fighter, he's an inexperienced beginner who has had 4 fights. He never claimed to be anything other than that. EliteXC tried to prop him as a some kind of superman and hoped his celebrity would bring in a lot of viewers. They spent a lot of money to get their company off the ground and they needed to create superstars to attract casual fans and challenge UFC. They just went about this shit the wrong way. Curano is the real deal and should continue to be hyped, they should've been hyping up Brett Rogers, and what the fuck happened to Cung Le? He beat a couple of dudes asses on Showtime and then broke Frank Shamrock's arm and took the title from him and then we never heard from him again. EliteXC ignored fighters they should've been giving more exposure to just so they could surround Slice with hype he couldn't possibly live up to. The angle for them to take with him should've been: here's this guy who made a name for himself by brawling in the streets, let's see if he can make the transition into the completely different world of MMA. Calling him a bum is a bit much, because a lot of these MMA dudes would get destroyed by Slice in the streets.
this is a ludicrous statement..... All of the dudes Kimbo fought in those " street fights" were out of shape bums off the street who got paid 200 dollars to get three pieced by him. The only competition that Kimbo had in those " street fights" was that Police Officer who pretty much dominated that fight because he knew how to handle himself....... I don't remember if dude actually won or if they called it a draw but that dude was all over Kimbo and Kimbo couldn't just two piece him because he actually had some type of fight skill.... And actually I heard he was fired from the police department sometime after the video was posted online......

it was a boston police officer who beat him, and they told him if he did a rematch he would get fired.

artMajor · Post by **artMajor** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:08 pm

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 8:35 pm

http://deadspin.com/5059233/meet-the-ma ... lled-kimbo

Did I miss it, or is nobody talking about this?

Quotashun · Post by **Quotashun** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 8:54 pm

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:http://deadspin.com/5059233/meet-the-ma ... lled-kimbo

Did I miss it, or is nobody talking about this?

Raphael De La Ghetto · Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:22 pm

HustleCrowe wrote:
D. James wrote:Kimbo Slice is a legendary street fighter. As an MMA fighter, he's an inexperienced beginner who has had 4 fights. He never claimed to be anything other than that. EliteXC tried to prop him as a some kind of superman and hoped his celebrity would bring in a lot of viewers. They spent a lot of money to get their company off the ground and they needed to create superstars to attract casual fans and challenge UFC. They just went about this shit the wrong way. Curano is the real deal and should continue to be hyped, they should've been hyping up Brett Rogers, and what the fuck happened to Cung Le? He beat a couple of dudes asses on Showtime and then broke Frank Shamrock's arm and took the title from him and then we never heard from him again. EliteXC ignored fighters they should've been giving more exposure to just so they could surround Slice with hype he couldn't possibly live up to. The angle for them to take with him should've been: here's this guy who made a name for himself by brawling in the streets, let's see if he can make the transition into the completely different world of MMA. Calling him a bum is a bit much, because a lot of these MMA dudes would get destroyed by Slice in the streets.
this is a ludicrous statement..... All of the dudes Kimbo fought in those " street fights" were out of shape bums off the street who got paid 200 dollars to get three pieced by him. The only competition that Kimbo had in those " street fights" was that Police Officer who pretty much dominated that fight because he knew how to handle himself....... I don't remember if dude actually won or if they called it a draw but that dude was all over Kimbo and Kimbo couldn't just two piece him because he actually had some type of fight skill.... And actually I heard he was fired from the police department sometime after the video was posted online......

Not only that, but it was supposed to really just be all fists and chokes standing up. Kimbo's boys all rush in and break up the fight when Gannon tries to give Kimbo some knees.

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:25 pm

Raphael De La Ghetto wrote:
HustleCrowe wrote:
D. James wrote:Kimbo Slice is a legendary street fighter. As an MMA fighter, he's an inexperienced beginner who has had 4 fights. He never claimed to be anything other than that. EliteXC tried to prop him as a some kind of superman and hoped his celebrity would bring in a lot of viewers. They spent a lot of money to get their company off the ground and they needed to create superstars to attract casual fans and challenge UFC. They just went about this shit the wrong way. Curano is the real deal and should continue to be hyped, they should've been hyping up Brett Rogers, and what the fuck happened to Cung Le? He beat a couple of dudes asses on Showtime and then broke Frank Shamrock's arm and took the title from him and then we never heard from him again. EliteXC ignored fighters they should've been giving more exposure to just so they could surround Slice with hype he couldn't possibly live up to. The angle for them to take with him should've been: here's this guy who made a name for himself by brawling in the streets, let's see if he can make the transition into the completely different world of MMA. Calling him a bum is a bit much, because a lot of these MMA dudes would get destroyed by Slice in the streets.
this is a ludicrous statement..... All of the dudes Kimbo fought in those " street fights" were out of shape bums off the street who got paid 200 dollars to get three pieced by him. The only competition that Kimbo had in those " street fights" was that Police Officer who pretty much dominated that fight because he knew how to handle himself....... I don't remember if dude actually won or if they called it a draw but that dude was all over Kimbo and Kimbo couldn't just two piece him because he actually had some type of fight skill.... And actually I heard he was fired from the police department sometime after the video was posted online......

Not only that, but it was supposed to really just be all fists and chokes standing up. Kimbo's boys all rush in and break up the fight when Gannon tries to give Kimbo some knees.

Yes, but you're still missing the point here:

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:http://deadspin.com/5059233/meet-the-ma ... lled-kimbo

Did I miss it, or is nobody talking about this?

BigCat8 · Post by **BigCat8** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:37 pm

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
Raphael De La Ghetto wrote:
HustleCrowe wrote:
D. James wrote:Kimbo Slice is a legendary street fighter. As an MMA fighter, he's an inexperienced beginner who has had 4 fights. He never claimed to be anything other than that. EliteXC tried to prop him as a some kind of superman and hoped his celebrity would bring in a lot of viewers. They spent a lot of money to get their company off the ground and they needed to create superstars to attract casual fans and challenge UFC. They just went about this shit the wrong way. Curano is the real deal and should continue to be hyped, they should've been hyping up Brett Rogers, and what the fuck happened to Cung Le? He beat a couple of dudes asses on Showtime and then broke Frank Shamrock's arm and took the title from him and then we never heard from him again. EliteXC ignored fighters they should've been giving more exposure to just so they could surround Slice with hype he couldn't possibly live up to. The angle for them to take with him should've been: here's this guy who made a name for himself by brawling in the streets, let's see if he can make the transition into the completely different world of MMA. Calling him a bum is a bit much, because a lot of these MMA dudes would get destroyed by Slice in the streets.
this is a ludicrous statement..... All of the dudes Kimbo fought in those " street fights" were out of shape bums off the street who got paid 200 dollars to get three pieced by him. The only competition that Kimbo had in those " street fights" was that Police Officer who pretty much dominated that fight because he knew how to handle himself....... I don't remember if dude actually won or if they called it a draw but that dude was all over Kimbo and Kimbo couldn't just two piece him because he actually had some type of fight skill.... And actually I heard he was fired from the police department sometime after the video was posted online......

Not only that, but it was supposed to really just be all fists and chokes standing up. Kimbo's boys all rush in and break up the fight when Gannon tries to give Kimbo some knees.
Yes, but you're still missing the point here:
B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:http://deadspin.com/5059233/meet-the-ma ... lled-kimbo

Did I miss it, or is nobody talking about this?

Here's why I, in particular, am not talking about it:
Mrs. Leslie Petruzelli's MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/lesliepetruzelli
"Busted" Coverage: http://www.bustedcoverage.com/?p=7817

Of course, there's the possibility that she's his "cover-up", but I don't believe that.

B. Ware tha Siniq · Post by **B. Ware tha Siniq** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:48 pm

BigCat8 wrote: Of course, there's the possibility that she's his "cover-up", but I don't believe that.

/

Dude is wild

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:16 pm

ProElite faces allegations of fixing the Slice-Petruzelli fight

By Franklin McNeil
Special to ESPN.com
(Archive)

After what might have been its most successful night as a mixed martial arts promoter, ProElite finds itself on the defensive. For the past several days, the Los Angeles-based company has been fending off allegations of fight fixing.

Shortly after stopping Kimbo Slice in 14 seconds in Sunrise, Fla., on Saturday, last-minute replacement Seth Petruzelli began granting interviews. But it was the one he conducted Monday with an Orlando, Fla.-based radio station that has put ProElite under the microscope.

"The promoters kind of hinted to me and they gave me the money to stand and trade with him," Petruzelli said on "The Monsters in Orlando" show. "They didn't want me to take him down, let's just put it that way. It was worth my while to try to stand up and punch with him."

Petruzelli has since claimed his comment was "misconstrued." But the damage was too great to simply go away quietly. His words implied that ProElite attempted to influence the fight, causing the issue to mushroom.

After repeated calls from ESPN.com, the Florida Department of Business and Professional Regulation -- which oversees the State Boxing Commission -- said Thursday that it has opened a preliminary investigation into the matter.

"While the Department of Business and Professional Regulation doesn't have any reason to believe there was a problem with the Slice-Petruzelli fight, given the interest in it, the Department has begun a preliminary investigation to thoroughly review the circumstances of the fight," said Jennifer Meale, Communications Director for the DBPR.

Jeremy Lappen, head of fight operations for ProElite subsidiary EliteXC, isn't concerned about the investigation. He insists there was no attempt to influence the fight in any way.

"We had a main event that fell out three hours before the fight was scheduled to start," Lappen told ESPN.com. "We had to scramble. And rather than call off the event, which is what most promoters would do, we put together something for the fans -- and tried to put on the best fight possible.

"We offered Seth Petruzelli a knockout bonus, a submission bonus and "fight of the night" bonus. If we were trying to influence the fight, why would we do that?

"We were not trying to protect Kimbo. He had been training to fight a guy in Shamrock who has a better ground game than Seth. If we were trying to protect Kimbo we would have sent him home. We put him in a dangerous fight."

ProElite's problems began Saturday afternoon when Slice's original opponent, Ken Shamrock, suffered a cut over his left eye. The Florida State Boxing Commission examined the injury and deemed it too severe to allow Shamrock to compete.

In an effort to keep Slice on the card, ProElite then made an offer to Petruzelli.

The Orlando, Fla., resident wasted little time accepting. Petruzelli, who was scheduled to face Aaron Rosa in a light heavyweight undercard bout, seized his opportunity by handing Slice his first professional loss.

In his excitement, Petruzelli began talking to anyone who would listen. But Petruzelli isn't used to being the focus of attention, so when his local radio station called, he opened up.

If the DBPR finds Petruzelli's statements during that radio interview to be true, it might cause irreparable harm to ProElite. It might also damage the credibility of mixed martial arts.

With so much at stake, Lappen stepped in to clear things up.

"We didn't try to influence the fight, and Seth said we didn't try to influence the fight. So there isn't a story," Lappen said. "If we are being hurt image-wise then it is extremely unfortunate because nothing happened."

Lappen is disappointed that so much attention has been placed on Petruzelli's statement. He points out that the card attracted more than 4 million viewers.

"I wish there was more focus paid on the fact that we had an amazing night," Lappen said. "There are a lot of great things that came out of Saturday night, the least of which is the ratings.

"That to me is a huge story. We went against other major sports -- a very big college football game, a playoff game in baseball and we did a better rating than they did. We were No. 1 in the key demographics [males 18 to 34 years old]."

But UFC president Dana White says a large television rating won't matter if it is found that ProElite attempted to influence the Slice-Petruzelli fight. White welcomes the DBPR's decision.

He believes any hint that a promoter influenced how a bout was fought will harm the integrity of mixed martial arts. White added that his organization could also feel the sting.

"The Mandalay Bay and Venetian [casinos] took bets on that fight," White told ESPN.com. "If you're a fan of mixed martial arts and you sit down and do all the stats and you're like 'man, if this thing goes to the ground, Seth Petruzelli can win this fight, I'm gonna bet on Seth Petruzelli.'

"Then you don't know the promoters are paying the guy and saying 'don't go to the ground?' That's criminal. If that was in Las Vegas and the Nevada Athletic Commission had put that fight on, the FBI would be investigating them right now.

"This is how it hurts [UFC]; it hurts our mainstream growth. The people who aren't hardcore fans ג¦ ask me 'Oh, you have that Kimbo Slice guy.' And I have to say no, 'I don't have Kimbo Slice.' I would never bring Kimbo Slice into my organization."

D. James · Post by **D. James** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:57 pm

B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:http://deadspin.com/5059233/meet-the-ma ... lled-kimbo

Did I miss it, or is nobody talking about this?

I still don't understand why anyone would give a fuck about somebody being gay. How does this dude being a homosexual affect your life in any way?

As far as the Slice-Gannon fight, nobody stopped anything. Gannon tried to choke Slice a couple of times and some of Slice's people were yelling "No choking" but the fight continued and when he kneed him they yelled "No knees" and ran in there but once order was restored the fight continued. All the commotion leads me to believe that Gannon and his people thought MMA rules applied while Slice and his people thought it would be a bare knuckle boxing match like every other Slice fight that's on Youtube. Everyone should've agreed on the rules beforehand but apparently they didn't and it is what it is.

Anyway, my original point was, in a bare knuckle street fight, just standing there throwing hands...no kicks, no knees, no submission holds, etc. Slice would whip a lot of these MMA dudes' asses. He stepped into their world and he's still got a lot to learn but, if they were to go into his world, things would be a lot different. If you've seen the fights on youtube, you know the man has boxing skills. When he has to deal with kicks and takedowns and chokes and shit like that, he has difficulty because that isn't shit he's been training for his whole life like these other guys. He reminds me a lot of a guy he knocked out, Tank Abbott. A big, powerful motherfucker who can box and that's about it. So he'll catch some people and put them on their ass but smaller, quicker dudes who can avoid getting hit (see Abbott vs. Rizzo, among others), he'll have problems with.

Prophecy · Post by **Prophecy** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:16 am

D. James wrote:
B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:http://deadspin.com/5059233/meet-the-ma ... lled-kimbo

Did I miss it, or is nobody talking about this?
I still don't understand why anyone would give a fuck about somebody being gay. How does this dude being a homosexual affect your life in any way?

As far as the Slice-Gannon fight, nobody stopped anything. Gannon tried to choke Slice a couple of times and some of Slice's people were yelling "No choking" but the fight continued and when he kneed him they yelled "No knees" and ran in there but once order was restored the fight continued. All the commotion leads me to believe that Gannon and his people thought MMA rules applied while Slice and his people thought it would be a bare knuckle boxing match like every other Slice fight that's on Youtube. Everyone should've agreed on the rules beforehand but apparently they didn't and it is what it is.

Anyway, my original point was, in a bare knuckle street fight, just standing there throwing hands...no kicks, no knees, no submission holds, etc. Slice would whip a lot of these MMA dudes' asses. He stepped into their world and he's still got a lot to learn but, if they were to go into his world, things would be a lot different. If you've seen the fights on youtube, you know the man has boxing skills. When he has to deal with kicks and takedowns and chokes and shit like that, he has difficulty because that isn't shit he's been training for his whole life like these other guys. He reminds me a lot of a guy he knocked out, Tank Abbott. A big, powerful motherfucker who can box and that's about it. So he'll catch some people and put them on their ass but smaller, quicker dudes who can avoid getting hit (see Abbott vs. Rizzo, among others), he'll have problems with.

Street fights are bare knuckle boxing matches? lol

There are no rules in the street and that still favors the more skilled fighters/ not Slice. Don't forget that the ref saved Slice in his last fight. Dude knocked out some anonymous people, shit got upped on the net, people got all gassed over it, and that qualifies this dude as some sort of legend? The whole slice phenomenon is pretty funny if you ask me. Also if the smaller quicker 205er put dude away imagine what a skilled HW is going to do to him?