Players Your Favorite Baseball Team Let Get Away

jamrage · Post by **jamrage** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:32 pm

Either through trade, were left unprotected in the Rule V draft, or your team let walk in free agency. Either way, they missed the most productive years of that player's career.

Here's some guys the Astros had that they got rid of before they blew up:

Bobby Abreu
Kenny Lofton
Curt Schilling
Johan Santana
Ken Caminiti
Steve Finley
Luis Gonzalez
Joe Morgan
Freddy Garcia
Rusty Staub
Mike Cuellar

Guys they acquired mid-season, but didn't re-sign:
Randy Johnson
Carlos Beltran

Roy Johnson · Post by **Roy Johnson** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:55 pm

The Astros are the kings of this shit.

The Astros' All-Time traded team

ג¢C Brad Ausmus
December 11, 2000: From Houston with C.J. Nitkowski to Detroit for Paul Bako, Dean Crow. Brian Powell, Victor Villalobos and Mark Persails.

ג¢1B Glen Davis
January 10, 1991: From Houston to Baltimore for Pete Harnisch, Curt Schilling and Steve Finley.

ג¢ 1B Rusty Staub
January 22, 1969: From Houston to Montreal for Donn Clendenon and Jesus Alou. Clendenon refused to report, so the Expos sent Jack Billingham, Skip Guinn and $100,000 later to complete the trade.

ג¢2B Joe Morgan
November 29, 1971: From Houston with Ed Armbrister, Jack Billingham, Cesar Geronimo and Denis Menke to Cincinnati for Lee May, Tommy Helms and Jimmy Stewart.

ג¢SS Carlos Guillen
July 31, 1998: From Houston with Freddy Garcia and a player to be named later (John Halama) to Seattle for Randy Johnson

ג¢3B Ken Caminiti
December 28, 1994: From Houston with Andujar Cedeno, Steve Finley, Roberto Petagine, Brian Williams and a player to be named later (Sean Fesh) to San Diego for Derek Bell, Doug Brocail, Ricky Gutierrez, Pedro Martinez, Phil Plantier and Craig Shipley.

ג¢OF Kenny Lofton
Deceber 10, 1991: From Houston with Dave Rohde to Cleveland for Willie Blair and Eddie Taubensee.

ג¢OF Steve Finley
December 28, 1994: From Houston with Andujar Cedeno, Ken Caminiti, Roberto Petagine, Brian Williams and a player to be named later (Sean Fesh) to San Diego for Derek Bell, Doug Brocail, Ricky Gutierrez, Pedro Martinez, Phil Plantier and Craig Shipley.

ג¢OF Luis Gonzalez
June 28, 1995: From Houston with Scott Servais to Chicago Cubs for Rick Wilkins.

ג¢OF Jimmy Wynn
December 6, 1973: From Houston to Los Angeles Dodgers for Claude Osteen and Dave Culpepper.

ג¢P Mike Cuellar
December 4, 1968: From Houston with Elijah Johnson and Enzo Hernandez to Baltimore for Curt Blefary and John Mason.

ג¢P Curt Schilling
April 2, 1992: From Houston to Philadelphia for Jason Grimsley.

ג¢P Pete Harnisch
November 28, 1994: From Houston to New York Mets for players to be named later. The Mets sent Todd Beckerman (Dec. 6, 1994) and Juan Castillo (April 12, 1995) to complete the trade.

ג¢P Freddy Garcia
July 31, 1998: From Houston with Carlos Guillen and player to be named later (John Halama) to Seattle for Randy Johnson.

ג¢P Jerry Reuss
October 31, 1973: From Houston to Pittsburgh for Milt May.

ג¢P Jack Billingham
November 29, 1971: From Houston with Ed Armbrister, Cesar Geronimo, Denis Menke and Joe Morgan to Cincinnati for Lee May, Tommy Helms and Jimmy Stewart.

ג¢P Dave Roberts
December 6, 1975: From Houston with Jim Crawford and Milt May to Detroit for Leon Roberts, Terry Humphrey, Gene Pentz and Mark Lemongello.

ג¢P Mike Hampton
December 23, 1999: From Houston with Derek Bell to New York Mets for Roger Cedeno, Octavio Dotel and Kyle Kessel.

ג¢CL Billy Wagner
November 3, 2003: From Houston to Philadelphia for Brandon Duckworth, Taylor Buchholz and Ezekiel Astacio.

http://blogs.chron.com/fanblogastros/ar ... st_24.html

Dude obviously left Johan Santana and Bobby Abreu out of it because the Astros lost 'em in the Rule V draft.

yr gangsta conscience · Sat Mar 28, 2009 6:45 pm

Josh Hamilton

Reason · Post by **Reason** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 6:49 pm

two current devil rays that seriously would've made a world of difference and could've been the difference in playoffs and no-playoffs last year

carlos pena
dioner navarro

Dwight Strawberry · Post by **Dwight Strawberry** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:06 pm

Lenny Dykstra
Darryl Strawberry
Jason Bay
Nolan Ryan

This should be in reverse for the Mets. Players who sucked dick when they got to NY:

Roberto Alomar
Mo Vaughn
Jeremy Burnitz
Bret Saberhagen
Frank Viola
Bobby Bonilla
Carlos Baerga
Vince Coleman

Mansfield Status · Post by **Mansfield Status** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:15 pm

I'd say the Expos lost the most talent.. the Astros are close Gary Carter, Pedro, Randy Johnson, John Wetteland, Vlad, Grissom, Larry Walker, Andre Dawson, Jeff Reardon, Rock Raines, Orlando Cabrera, Otis Nixon, and the pride of Phoenixville Pennsylvania Andre Thornton

Prophecy · Post by **Prophecy** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:23 pm

Im a marlins fan

eris · Post by **eris** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:34 pm

Padres:

Roberto Alomar
Sandy Alomar Jr.
Dave Winfield
Joe Carter
Ozzie Smith
John Kruk
Jason Bay
Oliver Perez
Gary Sheffield (not homegrown but had him early in his career)
Tony Fernandez
Maybe even Benito Santiago
Just about everybody in the Matt Bush draft year.

That's all I have off the top of my head.

Joe Pesci · Post by **Joe Pesci** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:33 pm

I don't know if this counts but the Yankees went really hard at Maddux in the early 90s before he signed with Atlanta.

As for player's traded I guess Eric Milton, D'angelo Jiminez and Wily Mo Pena

I can't think of great players they've traded away in their prime or before they reached the big leagues right now.

Although:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvg9jo5ZxnE

Reason · Post by **Reason** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:44 pm

Joe Pesci wrote:I don't know if this counts but the Yankees went really hard at Maddux in the early 90s before he signed with Atlanta.

As for player's traded I guess Eric Milton, D'angelo Jiminez and Wily Mo Pena

I can't think of great players they've traded away in their prime or before they reached the big leagues right now.

Although:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvg9jo5ZxnE

damn do people not read threads b4 posting?

carlos pena and dioner navarro

others too but i prefer to name those b/c they are really the best big league position players we let go of players playing now

Joe Pesci · Post by **Joe Pesci** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:47 pm

Reason wrote:
Joe Pesci wrote:I don't know if this counts but the Yankees went really hard at Maddux in the early 90s before he signed with Atlanta.

As for player's traded I guess Eric Milton, D'angelo Jiminez and Wily Mo Pena

I can't think of great players they've traded away in their prime or before they reached the big leagues right now.

Although:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvg9jo5ZxnE
damn do people not read threads b4 posting?

carlos pena and dioner navarro

others too but i prefer to name those b/c they are really the best big league position players we let go of players playing now

Pena was given up on by like 5 or 6 teams.

Detroit
Boston
New York
Oakland
Texas

off the top of my head

And I guess you can say Soriano even though they got a better player in return.

Dunnnnleavy · Post by **Dunnnnleavy** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:15 pm

^Soriano was already a very good player w/the Yanks that everyone knew about though. so good already that they had to give him up for A-rod. otherwise Marlins fans could make the same statement with Josh Beckett (sort of similar circumstances, even if Hanley was still a prospect when that deal went down).
this thread is more about those who hadn't blown up yet.

Lebong Jame$ · Post by **Lebong Jame$** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:24 pm

we should do this shit for basketball. the list of talent phoenix gave away simply to save money can make a mother fucker cry

jamrage · Post by **jamrage** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:07 am

Mansfield Status wrote:I'd say the Expos lost the most talent.. the Astros are close Gary Carter, Pedro, Randy Johnson, John Wetteland, Vlad, Grissom, Larry Walker, Andre Dawson, Jeff Reardon, Rock Raines, Orlando Cabrera, Otis Nixon, and the pride of Phoenixville Pennsylvania Andre Thornton

Damn, that's a good list. That's about 6-7 Hofers. God, the Expos could have dominated the NL if they'd kept half of their talent. It's a shame they were so fucking cheap, because their talent scouting has been some of the best in baseball the last 20 years.

Prophecy, come on man make a list of Marlins. In these trying times we all need a good laugh.

I think the Expos are the clubhouse leader right now.

Roy Johnson · Post by **Roy Johnson** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:10 am

Dawson, Raines, and Carter all enjoyed the best years of their respective careers while playing for the Expos, so I don't know if they'd qualify. As for the early-to-mid 90s guys, most of 'em had really dope years for the Expos, so once again, I don't know if they'd qualify.

The Astros were a completely different story, IMO. Lofton, Schilling, Santana, Abreu, etc had yet to do jack shit on the major league level.

jamrage · Post by **jamrage** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:28 am

Roy Johnson wrote:Dawson, Raines, and Carter all enjoyed the best years of their respective careers while playing for the Expos, so I don't know if they'd qualify. As for the early-to-mid 90s guys, most of 'em had really dope years for the Expos, so once again, I don't know if they'd qualify.

The Astros were a completely different story, IMO. Lofton, Schilling, Santana, Abreu, etc had yet to do jack shit on the major league level.

yeah, you're right. I got too caught up in the names rather than looking at their stats when they were with les Expos.

I will say that Dawson had his best year as a Cub the year he won his MVP, but he had some really good years in Montreal no doubt.

Mansfield Status · Post by **Mansfield Status** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:30 am

the Marlins shouldn't count just cause that firesale shit they did it TWICE they didn't really "lose" people as much as they pushed em out the door haha

Roy Johnson · Post by **Roy Johnson** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:40 am

jamrage wrote:I will say that Dawson had his best year as a Cub the year he won his MVP, but he had some really good years in Montreal no doubt.

True, that's the year that really sticks out in his profile.

I want to say that he was at the top of his game as a member of the Expos, though. Dude was a demon on the basepaths, and an absolute phenom on defense. He wasn't as good of an overall player by the time he joined the Cubs, but by then, he was no spring chicken at the age of 32.

Smithee · Post by **Smithee** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:27 pm

Reason wrote:carlos pena
dioner navarro

@ carlos pena being a big deal. try being an A's fan.

capable_keL · Post by **capable_keL** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:35 pm

gary gaetti
frank viola