ESPN's top 25 NFL players of the decade

an-also · Post by **an-also** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:48 pm

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfcwest/0-9- ... ecade.html

1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. LaDanian Tomlinson
4. Walter Jones
5. Jason Taylor
6. Champ Bailey
7. Marvin Harrison
8. Michael Strahan
9. Ray Lewis
10. Tony Gonzalez
11. Jonathan Ogden
12. Ed Reed
13. Torry Holt
14. Randy Moss
15. Derrick Brooks
16. Orlando Pace
17. Kurt Warner
18. Shaun Alexander
19. Troy Polamalu
20. Richard Seymour
21. Ben Roethlisberger
22. Steve Hutchinson
23. Brett Favre
24. Terrell Owens
25. Brian Urlacher

an-also · Post by **an-also** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:48 pm

Ray Lewis should be on the top 5 easily.

Website · Post by **Random Sample** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:57 pm

No love for Alan Faneca? Pro Bowl almost every year of his career.

Champ Bailey is overrated. He had two really good seasons, but other than that he is pretty average.

Reason · Post by **Reason** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:00 pm

yea no coincidence that the jets have nobody in that list.

Trub320 · Post by **Trub320** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:05 pm

an-also wrote:Ray Lewis should be on the top 5 easily.

dont understand how they have 3 defensive players ahead of him. Especially Champ Baily.

jazzmatazz23 · Post by **jazzmatazz23** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:14 pm

I don't like to complain about these type of lists, but the order is just ridicolous
holt over moss?
Jason Taylor being the first defesive player??????????
I don't think Big Ben should be on there, he has only been in the league 5 years.

Website · Post by **Random Sample** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:16 pm

jazzmatazz23 wrote:I don't think Big Ben should be on there, he has only been in the league 5 years.

I am not the biggest Roethlisberger fan, but he did win 2 super bowls.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:39 pm

Moss is kinda low despite his quiet years.

Trub320 · Post by **Trub320** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:05 pm

Random Sample wrote:
jazzmatazz23 wrote:I don't think Big Ben should be on there, he has only been in the league 5 years.
I am not the biggest Roethlisberger fan, but he did win 2 super bowls.

he backed his way into one of them. Although i would still put him where hes at.
Taylor at 5 is a joke. Hes not even top 15.
Moss definitly should be in the top 5.

Website · Post by **Random Sample** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:30 pm

Trub320 wrote:he backed his way into one of them. Although i would still put him where hes at.

He sucked in the super bowl, but the run they made in the playoffs was all him. He was amazing that playoffs, but he sucked in the super bowl.

blastmaster · Post by **blastmaster** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:39 pm

Random Sample wrote:
Champ Bailey is overrated. He had two really good seasons, but other than that he is pretty average.

Champ has more tackles and more picks than Deion did at this point in his career. He is one of the best cover corners of all-time and hands down one of the best defensive players this decade. How the FUCK is he overrated, much less AVERAGE? You have got to be fucking kidding me.

Website · Post by **Random Sample** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:00 pm

blastmaster wrote:
Random Sample wrote:
Champ Bailey is overrated. He had two really good seasons, but other than that he is pretty average.

Champ has more tackles and more picks than Deion did at this point in his career. He is one of the best cover corners of all-time and hands down one of the best defensive players this decade. How the FUCK is he overrated, much less AVERAGE? You have got to be fucking kidding me.

His stats are very inconsistent. He had those two big years that inflate what he has done in the past decade. The rest of the years he has been average.

You are in the camp that thinks Deion was the greatest thing since sliced bread so I understand why you think Champ Bailey is so great.

the dead poet · Post by **the dead poet** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:16 pm

you can't judge a CB by Int's.

with that being said.... Nnamdi>Bailey.

Reason · Post by **Reason** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:23 pm

people say big ben 'backed into' his first sb win, but if not for that hail mary type heave to hines ward from the 50 yard line or so post-scramble, maybe that game turns out differently

Website · Post by **Random Sample** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:24 pm

the dead poet wrote:you can't judge a CB by Int's.

with that being said.... Nnamdi>Bailey.

I'm not. All of his stats are average other than those couple years where he had high numbers.

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:48 pm

the dead poet wrote:Nnamdi>Bailey.

word the fuck up.

if your CB is getting a lot of INTs, it's because QBs are comfortable throwing in his direction.

Randy Moss got hosed.

Jason Taylor over Michael Strahan? lol. Michael Strahan is the best 2 way defensive end of this decade. and he holds the single season sack record*. This is lol worthy.

Ray Lewis got hosed. So did Jonathan Ogden. Ogden is the best Offensive Tackle of this decade imo.

even though Marshall Faulk only had 3 elite years in the 2000's, I'd include him. He is the best RB i've ever seen.

Trub320 · Post by **Trub320** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:20 pm

Simeon Rice and Jason Taylor should be ranked together. Champ Baily is a healthy Chris Mccallister.

eternalreflection · Post by **eternalreflection** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:26 pm

Random Sample wrote:
jazzmatazz23 wrote:I don't think Big Ben should be on there, he has only been in the league 5 years.
I am not the biggest Roethlisberger fan, but he did win 2 super bowls.

nah the Steelers defense won 2superbowls

he was awful last year, I mean if Dilfer won a 2nd superbowl with the Ravens would you put him in the top25,

is better than Dilfer overall but jesus

last year basically = Dilfer in 00

Joe Pesci · Post by **Joe Pesci** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:51 pm

Came into this thread not expecting to see a Jets player.

I was right.

Website · Post by **Random Sample** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:09 am

eternalreflection wrote:he was awful last year, I mean if Dilfer won a 2nd superbowl with the Ravens would you put him in the top25, is better than Dilfer overall but jesus last year basically = Dilfer in 00

Do you think Dilfer could have scored a touchdown on that last drive in last years super bowl? Dude might not be amazing all the time, but I would rather have him taking snaps than 29 other qb's in the league. He also did this with a shitty offensive line while he was running for his life most of the time.

Orale Holmes · Post by **Orale Holmes** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:21 am

Random Sample wrote:
eternalreflection wrote:he was awful last year, I mean if Dilfer won a 2nd superbowl with the Ravens would you put him in the top25, is better than Dilfer overall but jesus last year basically = Dilfer in 00
Do you think Dilfer could have scored a touchdown on that last drive in last years super bowl?

against AZ's D? Yes.

Orale Holmes · Post by **Orale Holmes** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:27 am

Nmandi is by far the best CB in the game...but in a year from now we'll all be talking about Alphonso Smith.

Website · Post by **Random Sample** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:42 am

Orale Holmes wrote:
Random Sample wrote:
eternalreflection wrote:he was awful last year, I mean if Dilfer won a 2nd superbowl with the Ravens would you put him in the top25, is better than Dilfer overall but jesus last year basically = Dilfer in 00
Do you think Dilfer could have scored a touchdown on that last drive in last years super bowl?
against AZ's D? Yes.

I am going on record to say that Trent Dilfer could never make that pass to Santonio Holmes for the touchdown.

So you are saying that Trent Dilfer is just as good a QB as Ben Roethliberger.

Money Gripp · Post by **Money Gripp** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:58 am

Who on this list will be on next decade's list?

In order from lowest to highest: Manning, Rapelisberger, Moss, Gonzalez, Seymour, Ogden, Brady, Polamaulu, Reed

an-also · Post by **an-also** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:55 pm

eternalreflection wrote: last year basically = Dilfer in 00

This is by far the most idiotic thing iv ever heard. Stop posting.

Money Gripp · Post by **Money Gripp** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:58 pm

The world changes but eternal remains the same.

Roy Johnson · Post by **Roy Johnson** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:03 pm

Random Sample wrote:I am going on record to say that Trent Dilfer could never make that pass to Santonio Holmes for the touchdown.

So you are saying that Trent Dilfer is just as good a QB as Ben Roethliberger.

No, it's just that the super bowl argument is meaningless because it's a team accomplishment.

Dan Marino ain't got no rings, correct?

Money Gripp · Post by **Money Gripp** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:18 pm

Roethlisberger will beat the Troy Aikman record for concussions...

...wait a minute...

...Ben just got punched in the face by a bouncer in Cleveland!!!

"T'day Ben id da gray test uv awl time!!!"

eternalreflection · Post by **eternalreflection** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:25 pm

an-also wrote:
eternalreflection wrote: last year basically = Dilfer in 00
This is by far the most idiotic thing iv ever heard. Stop posting.

did you guys watch steeler games last year,

was awful

the steelers won the title because they had the best defense, and just barely enough offense to get the job done, exactly the same build as the Ravens title team, if

was better it sure wasn't by much, but omg he led a game winning drive that means he didn't suck afterall

maybe it was a fluke but if I was a pittsburg fan I'd be very scared that he's never going to be good again and since he won 2titles they'd stick with him for the next 10yrs anyway

Website · Post by **Random Sample** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:02 pm

Roy Johnson wrote:No, it's just that the super bowl argument is meaningless because it's a team accomplishment.

Dan Marino ain't got no rings, correct?

I am not really into the super bowl thing either, but saying Dilfer is better than Roethlisberger is just ridiculous.

eternalreflection wrote:did you guys watch steeler games last year, was awful

I did watch every Steeler game. And here is the reason that people hate on Roethlisberger:

1. Atrocious Offensive line: Put most quarterbacks behind that line and they wouldn't be able to do shit.

2. Change in running game Philosophy: No more fullback, the line sucks, and willie parker isn't going to run people over.

3. He holds onto the ball too long: sometimes it ends up being an amazing play, but that is 1 out of 10. Most of the time it ends up being a sack or an interception. This is why I don't like him. I think his ball management isn't very good at times.

I would like to see any of those fags from Chicago on the Steelers and be as successful as Roethlisberger. Including that faggot Cutler.