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You can select ONE NFL player for the HOF...
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same guidelines as the nba jawn
the only thing is one of these players won fuckin dpoy last year so how can i put him here (under the premise that the guys in these polls are past their primes)? well he's 33 so fuck it. plus he beat out revis. fuck him. love you an-also
also i should've put trevor pryce here, or maybe jamal williams, or maybe even kris jenkins, but i put kevin instead cuz i knew the dt wouldn't get any love anyway so i put the best one up possible even though kevin is only 29 and is a fucking beast with 5 first team all-pros to his credit already
same guidelines as the nba jawn
the only thing is one of these players won fuckin dpoy last year so how can i put him here (under the premise that the guys in these polls are past their primes)? well he's 33 so fuck it. plus he beat out revis. fuck him. love you an-also
also i should've put trevor pryce here, or maybe jamal williams, or maybe even kris jenkins, but i put kevin instead cuz i knew the dt wouldn't get any love anyway so i put the best one up possible even though kevin is only 29 and is a fucking beast with 5 first team all-pros to his credit already
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do yall realize the names fred taylor is ranked among?
you know how long he has been an elite back? its like the curtis martin shunning all over again
brian urlacher? wtf? roided out, often injured, not impressive numbers or anything
woodson? pfft, a guy jumps patterns for a decade and he gets in the hall of fame?
darren sharper should be in the hall before woodson ever gets considered
dawk..i guess, but its not a slam dunk, a hard hitting DB with longevity doesnt get a pass to the hof
steve atwater gets hof before dawkins
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you know how long he has been an elite back? its like the curtis martin shunning all over again
brian urlacher? wtf? roided out, often injured, not impressive numbers or anything
woodson? pfft, a guy jumps patterns for a decade and he gets in the hall of fame?
darren sharper should be in the hall before woodson ever gets considered
dawk..i guess, but its not a slam dunk, a hard hitting DB with longevity doesnt get a pass to the hof
steve atwater gets hof before dawkins
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Freddy Taylor with B-Dawk a VERY close second.
Fred is also one of the nicest and most down to Earth professional athletes i have ever met. Dudes a class act with great numbers and if not for injuries he would be a no brainer for the hall but he is certainly deserving. Also coming out of the muck and doing what he did makes all of that all that much more impressive to me.
B-Dawk is second on my all time favorite player list and a Raines High School kid so i have a bit of a 904 bias there. He was a GREAT all around safety who NEVER gets enough respect and he could change a game in any aspect on any play.
Fred is also one of the nicest and most down to Earth professional athletes i have ever met. Dudes a class act with great numbers and if not for injuries he would be a no brainer for the hall but he is certainly deserving. Also coming out of the muck and doing what he did makes all of that all that much more impressive to me.
B-Dawk is second on my all time favorite player list and a Raines High School kid so i have a bit of a 904 bias there. He was a GREAT all around safety who NEVER gets enough respect and he could change a game in any aspect on any play.
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Alot of these guys aren't making it in. Of those getting votes...
Fred Taylor. Nope. Dude only scored double digit tds twice in his career and it was at the start. He was a very good runner, but was never really the best running back in the league. One Pro Bowl selection, and never an All Pro?
Urlacher. No fucking way.
I think only Woodson, Dawkins, and McNabb should and will make it into the HOF.
Voted Dawkins.
Fred Taylor. Nope. Dude only scored double digit tds twice in his career and it was at the start. He was a very good runner, but was never really the best running back in the league. One Pro Bowl selection, and never an All Pro?
Urlacher. No fucking way.
I think only Woodson, Dawkins, and McNabb should and will make it into the HOF.
Voted Dawkins.
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I agree that Urlacher is mainly media and Chicago hype. You put a body on this guy and he ain't shit. Cannot shed a block for the life of him.jamrage wrote:Alot of these guys aren't making it in. Of those getting votes...
Fred Taylor. Nope. Dude only scored double digit tds twice in his career and it was at the start. He was a very good runner, but was never really the best running back in the league. One Pro Bowl selection, and never an All Pro?
Urlacher. No fucking way.
I think only Woodson, Dawkins, and McNabb should and will make it into the HOF.
Voted Dawkins.
However, Fred Taylor should be in the hall of fame. Your best argument is that he didn't score TDs? Really? All he ever did was move the chains. And he did it at an extremely efficient rate.
Scoring tds is important for running backs. Taylor was a very good back for a long time, but to me he's one of those guys who's just on the outside looking in.Gilbert Subpoenas wrote:I agree that Urlacher is mainly media and Chicago hype. You put a body on this guy and he ain't shit. Cannot shed a block for the life of him.jamrage wrote:Alot of these guys aren't making it in. Of those getting votes...
Fred Taylor. Nope. Dude only scored double digit tds twice in his career and it was at the start. He was a very good runner, but was never really the best running back in the league. One Pro Bowl selection, and never an All Pro?
Urlacher. No fucking way.
I think only Woodson, Dawkins, and McNabb should and will make it into the HOF.
Voted Dawkins.
However, Fred Taylor should be in the hall of fame. Your best argument is that he didn't score TDs? Really? All he ever did was move the chains. And he did it at an extremely efficient rate.
Again, no All Pro selections and only one Pro Bowl selection is pretty telling as well. He wasn't as good as the best guys of his era.
If you think Taylor should be in you better think that Corey Dillon should be in. Dillon only had 300 less rushing yards in 2 less years and also had about 15 more touchdowns.
I don't think either one belongs in the HOF.
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Urlacher was an amazing sideline-to-sideline LB during his peak years. His combination of size, speed, and awareness was elite-level in the context of NFL history, not just the past decade. His weaknesses revolved around shedding fullback blocks on up-the-gut running plays, but he was still a hall of fame caliber player, all things considered.
Even with Urlacher getting taken out of certain plays by the Cory Schlesingers of the world, he is still arguably the second best MLB of the past decade behind Ray Lewis.
Ray Lewis and Patrick Willis are once-in-a-decade MLBs. Both players will be in the discussion with Butkus, Lambert, Singletary, etc for all-time greatest middle linebacker. Urlacher will not be in that discussion, but he's still HOF caliber.
Even with Urlacher getting taken out of certain plays by the Cory Schlesingers of the world, he is still arguably the second best MLB of the past decade behind Ray Lewis.
Ray Lewis and Patrick Willis are once-in-a-decade MLBs. Both players will be in the discussion with Butkus, Lambert, Singletary, etc for all-time greatest middle linebacker. Urlacher will not be in that discussion, but he's still HOF caliber.
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jamrage wrote:
Scoring tds is important for running backs. Taylor was a very good back for a long time, but to me he's one of those guys who's just on the outside looking in.
Again, no All Pro selections and only one Pro Bowl selection is pretty telling as well. He wasn't as good as the best guys of his era.
If you think Taylor should be in you better think that Corey Dillon should be in. Dillon only had 300 less rushing yards in 2 less years and also had about 15 more touchdowns.
I don't think either one belongs in the HOF.
There are already too many RBs in the Hall and there is a log jam in the near term also for a position which frankly is no longer that important. Here is just a small list of RB that will have at least some Hall buzz around them in the next decade
Curtis Martin
Bettis
LT
Faulk
James
Taylor
Dillon
Dunn
Barber
George
Jackson
Westbrook
The first 4 are going in. After that some one tell me the difference between them but more importantly why they should get in over the backlog of defensive players that need to get in.
But back to Taylor he has never finished in the top 5 in rushing or yards from scrimmage. Only finished in the top 10 in yards from scrimmage 3 times. His 2 best yardage years where in years where everyone was going wild. This is to take nothing away from him but he was just very good and not even that over his whole career never elite.
No Super Bowls either.ThaJim2 wrote:jamrage wrote:
Scoring tds is important for running backs. Taylor was a very good back for a long time, but to me he's one of those guys who's just on the outside looking in.
Again, no All Pro selections and only one Pro Bowl selection is pretty telling as well. He wasn't as good as the best guys of his era.
If you think Taylor should be in you better think that Corey Dillon should be in. Dillon only had 300 less rushing yards in 2 less years and also had about 15 more touchdowns.
I don't think either one belongs in the HOF.
There are already too many RBs in the Hall and there is a log jam in the near term also for a position which frankly is no longer that important. Here is just a small list of RB that will have at least some Hall buzz around them in the next decade
Curtis Martin
Bettis
LT
Faulk
James
Taylor
Dillon
Dunn
Barber
George
Jackson
Westbrook
The first 4 are going in. After that some one tell me the difference between them but more importantly why they should get in over the backlog of defensive players that need to get in.
But back to Taylor he has never finished in the top 5 in rushing or yards from scrimmage. Only finished in the top 10 in yards from scrimmage 3 times. His 2 best yardage years where in years where everyone was going wild. This is to take nothing away from him but he was just very good and not even that over his whole career never elite.
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